groupbuy (ALIVE) NEW Lumintop Tool AA

in for 2

Surely it canā€™t, if it also runs off an AA?

I donā€™t know about the LT Tool AA, but there are AA/14500 flashlights that have LVP, and when using Li-Ion batteries blink and/or turn OFF when voltage is lower than 2.8V.

Fair pointā€¦

I donā€™t think the Tool AA is designed to handle 14500ā€¦ but iā€™m getting confused with all those lights as to which does and which doesnā€™t.

It is :wink: Please take a look at the first post with the specs :wink:
The question that remains is really about protected or unprotected batteries! That and reverse polarity protection :expressionless:
Iā€™ll probably stick the unprotected Sanyo UR14500P that I have.

It is curious: I was checking about the specs of some LT lights, including the Lumintop Prince Mini (AA/14500), about these ā€œprotectionā€ aspects, and so far I couldnā€™t find any reference to themā€¦

I believe the 18650 lights will probably have LVP and RPP, but these AA/14500ā€¦I donā€™t know!

On high some protected cells will either trip there protection or provide less currentā€¦ ?

IIRC on the Prince mini, the RPP is implemented as a raised ring around the positive contact on the driver. The cell raised top has to reach inside to make contact whereas the flat negative end wouldnā€™t. Flat top cell donā€™t work. I think i had to use some KeepPowers or a magnet. Iā€™ll check tomorrow. Not sure how it will work on the Tool AA.

Edit: i checked my Prince mini and it has the raised ring around the positive contact on the driver. I use KP protected 14500 800mAh (black w silver label) which are BT but the raised bit is not even tall enough and i need to add a thin round magnet to get it working. Obviously those protected cells do work - when you help them a bit.

If it works the same on the Tool AA, be prepared to fumble a bit with whatever 14500 youā€™ve got. Only ā€˜very raised topā€™ cells will work as is.

Thanks for the info patmurris! Didnā€™t know about that characteristic!! The Prince mini is a very nice light :wink:
Well, the only thing I can wait is that the Sanyo UR14500P fit well on the LT Tool AA, without magnets or other tricks. Those are the only Li-Ion cells I have for this lightā€¦ :person_facepalming:

Suddenly I see myself surrounded by some AA/14500 lights, but somehow I am ā€œexcitedā€ and curious to get the LT AA on my hands :blush:

Thank you ā€˜M4D ā€œMartinā€ M4Xā€™ā€¦ā€¦ :+1: ā€¦ :smiley:

I picked up a coupleā€¦ā€¦ :wink:

Lots more pics on the Lumintop site now.
http://www.lumintop.com/tool-aa.html

The LED in the AA Tool is XP-L
If the AA Tool is anything like the AA Maratac, it will have PWM also. The Maratac offers a Nichia LED.

The ā€œlowā€ mode of the AA Tool is 7 lumens, similar to the AA Maratac (made by Lumintop)
yes the AA Tool officially takes 14500, so does the AA ReyLight Pineapple (also made by Lumintop, and like the Maratac, offers a Nichia).

The Pineapple also has PWM. The Pineapple has a sublumen low that the Maratac and AA Tool lack.

NO the AA tool does not have Low Voltage Cutoffā€¦ Like the Pineapple, the AA Tool calls for protected cells.

see

ā€œthis flashlight need to use protected battery and there is no low voltage protectionā€

:person_facepalming:

Thanks for the heads up on this jon-slider! :+1:

My only question: is it that hard for Lumintop and Banggood (as the seller, in this case) to include that info in the specs sheet?!!! Why do we have to be digging for this kind of - IMPORTANT - information when it was supposed to be on the specs?

Also, is it that hard for LT to make these lights with LVP? Unless it was made only for alkaline batteries - which is not -, a flashlight like this, that can use Ni-MH and Li-Ion, should have (in my humble perspective) Low Voltage Protection and Reverse Polarity Protection. Mandatory! :person_facepalming:

It is annoying to know this, I must say! Iā€™ll probably have to buy 14500 protected batteries to use it with full powerā€¦

Thanks again for the heads up! :+1:

correct :slight_smile:
be a good consumer, when you buy stuff, you have to accessorize and buy stuff for your stuff

buy protected cells for your inexpensive unprotected Tool
and or
buy unprotected and take personal responsibility for monitoring battery level
and or
buy lights with built in protection
and or
buy Lithium primaries
and or
buy Eneloops
and or
buy Alkaleaks,
so you can
buy new lights when they leak

Yeah, Iā€™m more like this kind :smiley:

I try to, but sometimes they donā€™t ā€œspecā€ it :laughing:

If the light have no problems with the lenght, I have not problem in buy 14500 protected. 18650 are very common and realiable, but there are not a lot invested in create top quality 14500 (I think), for 14500 I always prefer protected batteries.

In any case, probably I will use my tool AA (when arrive) with NiMH P. Eneloop of fujitsu (the most reliable for NiMH) or with Primaly Lithium. For Li-Ion there are nice and compact EDC 18650 today :smiley:

Got mine

Itā€™s not really compact, the same size as a T10.
Low mode should be lower, tint is really cold white, with hints of green around the spot and some purple hue in the outer spill (due to AR glass I would guess).
High mode on Eneloop is not impressive, lower than my T10.
On 14500 itā€™s impressive, I think this one will run on li-ion :slight_smile:
The clip is not sturdy (same quality than AAA tool), but is sturdy enough to stay on the light firmly.
Tailcap is good, the clicky switch is precise and gives a good feedback.
I will not use the magnetic tailcap, because I donā€™t like AA twisties.

It should find a place in my EDC rotation, after a Nichia swap :wink:

Does it have the raised ring around the positive contact on the driver which mandates button top cells?

219C swap

So, 14mm aluminum LED board, non DTP.
I donā€™t know what the SMD component is, but I guess itā€™s just a shunt (0 ohm)
Anyway, much better now with the 219C 5000K

It seems very similar to the Pineapple Reylight driver. Seems to have a little ā€œtopā€ to make contact with the battery, right?
Did you use 14500 with or without button top? Any ā€œrattleā€ with the battery?