[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

So it’s clear. We have to wait with the registered mail. Whatever the order …

How far down the list are we regarding payment PM’s? Just trying to get an idea of when to expect mine so I can plan for it, #1274 iirc

Its looking like it might be after the chinese holiday before you receive your payment PM

Up to #1049, which is only about 850 orders. Once these are all shipped, or almost all shipped, Texas_Ace will decide when to send out the PM for the last group of people to purchase.

It’s just a flashlight. Geez.

Your still gonna get yours before many others even get a chance to pay for theirs. Think positive. No need for negativity.

I’m very sure that is not what is happening, as Bozlight pointed out, chinese sellers have no problem using registered shipping. What is way more likely is that they (Neal? Lumintop?) have simply not figured out how to do the double packaging, and like everyone who is not facing consequences for the way they do things (things are handled in a random way until it is directly affected by money, reputation in China is not highly regarded) ; the easy stuff is done first.

In shipping, none of the BLF group buys went well so the BLF teams organising them should be frank about that: it comes when it comes, in random and unfair order.
(although they never promised complete fairness, the GT team expected shipping to be smoother than it went)

You were not responding to me but your post does apply: I think that many people, like me, and the GT-team, think extremely positive about this group buy (and regularly post about it :slight_smile: ) but at the same time are a bit disappointed about how the shipping goes and showing that as well.
LOL, for flashoholics no flashlight is just a flashlight :party:

I just got a DHL message.... and paid 50 euro’s. On 6 January my brother, my son and I, changed from registered to DHL because Neal said the GT’s to Europe shipped that same day. And Thijsco did not had to pay for his DHL shipment to the Netherlands. At the end our GT’s didn’t ship that day. As another Dutchman had to pay 50 euro’s for his DHL shipment, I sent Neal a message to change back to registered mail to avoid 3x 50 euro’s DHL/customs tax. I never got an answer to that message. So now they took DHL. Mixed feelings. Glad the GT is coming, not to happy to pay 50 euro’s extra. (And my son and brother have to pay that too, but they did not get a message so far)

Crossing the beams does no harm (unless it’s taking a while for the Aliens to respond)

Even from 1.31 miles away, don’t look into the business end! :slight_smile:

One of my friends (the one on the far side of the lake) had a meter set up, an GT with XHP-35 HD E4 5700K emitter showed 0.2 lux at 1.31 miles, one with an XHP-35 HI D4 5700K showed the same 0.3 lux as my sliced HD E4 5700K variant. So the two with the tighter beams did 1.323Mcd across the lake on a 90% humidity night, extrapolated to 1.429 miles throw. This was determined by reverse engineering the formula to get .3 lux at 1.31 miles.

3 GT’s together put 0.5 lux on the far beach. Pretty neat out at the lake seeing opposite shore lines and such. The one friend with the meter said when we shined the GT’s over his head he could clearly see the beam in the night air, that column of blue-white light, so the beam is still visible at over 2100 meters. Way cool stuff!

I have no idea if mine is even on its way at the moment or who it’ll come by.

Still bleh about it all

Just to be clear, it is just a remote possibility that this LED could be used in the future batches of GT’s. Although it would be the retail batches, not the GB lights as all of those are already built, just waiting for reflectors.

Yes, there are many small reasons for the DHL shipments going first. Some I don’t agree with, some I can’t argue with and some I agree with. I won’t get into the details but it all boils down to it happened the way it happened.

From the start the entire team assumed that they would ship out in the order they were paid. Simple, direct and fair.

Then they started shipping them by the pallet and by country.

We talked it over and it would have been way more hassle and caused more issues then just letting it play out. The shipping speed would not have changed no matter what, only who got their lights first.

For the record the team never wanted, asked for or even desired for the USA to get the first shipments. In fact I asked several times if they could send the next batch to other countries. I wanted them to be spread out across the globe from the start so that we could get some reviews of the lights in a lot of different settings and get feedback on the shipping from various countries early on.

“It ships when it ships” was very firmly stated many, many times before any full payments were taken.

Before that it was said quite a few times that getting them before the end of the year 2017 would be highly unlikely. We are but a mere 3 weeks into 2018 with around 130 days left on paypal protection.

Very cool beamshots!

Cool stuff Dale !

Really interested in a 4500k option too on a seperate board. Nice to know you guys continue to improve the light in anyway, thats great dedication.

Thanks for letting me know, on a side note do you know the exact bin on the XHP35 Hi used in the BLF GT? That way I could look up any data on it. Thanks.

From the lake shots, my buddy’s pics from his iPhoneX with flash turned off… the GT with HD emitter first, then the sliced HD, then the 3 lights together, (HD, sliced HD, and HI) The light you see on the meter is from the GT across the lake at 1.31 miles, there simply was no other light present. No guard lights, nothing.

All 3 put light on the water tower at 1.9 miles, even in the high humidity…

HD

Sliced HD

HI

Oh yeah, the domed HD GT is producing 2487 lumens out the front, the others in the 1900 to 2200 lumens range. :wink:

At first I was angry that people who just saw video of GT and decided that they need one, actually received their lights just month or two after registered on BLF… But wth it’s just a business for Lumintop,or any other Chinese company!

Why would they care if only 200 of us voted for design of GT, voted for emitter to be installed, voted for name of this beast……

Simply my money is not worth more than anyone else’s so they can arrange shipping what ever they want as long as they keep quality on the same level as it should be…

I will stay cool and simply wait for my package to arrive,still have 35 days of 180 Paypal protection guarantee for the deposit payment…

Dale are you saying that even the domed xhp35 HD is punching over 1Mcd ?

I’ve expected to be 15-20% brighter, but didn’t expect so small difference in throw.