Any “questionable” cells I have, I take a marker and draw a li’l 
skull’n’crossbones on ’em, just to let me know.
I’ll use ’em in low-stress lights just to burn ’em down some (hopefully not literally), and if not, just toss ’em.
These are the cells I got and are 100% FAKE. At the time of order, the brand was listed as Panasonic. Since then they have changed the brand to LiitoKala, so you can’t dispute that you didn’t get genuine Panasonics.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-5-pcs-lot-New-Original-18650-NCR18650B-Rechargeable-Li-ion-battery-3-7V-3400mAh-For/32315913621.html
Yep.
They pulled a bait and swap on the buyers.
I think we should push it a step further.
How about we stop buying any of the Liitokala batteries? Even 26650s and 21700s?
That might stop the bad behavior. Maybe.
I cannot agree with the “stop buying LiitoKala” thing. Judging others is no good, that is not the vibration of the original Creator which is unconditionally loving. This is something I've finally come to understand and my purification endeavour finally started.
Cheers ^:)
Yeah. I didn’t actually mean all of their products though. Their chargers are good.
All this talk about Liitokala has got my curiosity up.
I have found two different websites & two different stores on AliExpress. They are listed below.
Has anyone found any other “Littokala Stores” besides the two I have listed below??
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LiitoKala Official Flagship Store [Store #133859]
Lager
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Liitokala Official Store [Store #217753]
https://m.aliexpress.com/store/activities/seller/storeHomeFromAms.htm?storeNo=217753&sellerAdminSeq=202339875#/
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These are the two different websites I found:
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Below is some of the info & contact info that came from the websites:
Liitokala Power Company
ShenZhen LiitoKala Power Co.,LTD（ShenZhen charger factory)
Add: The 6F building 1,MaoBang industrial Area,No.8 Lingwu Industrial Road Junzibu, GuanLan Town,Baoan District,Shenzhen City,Guangdong,518110,China
Contact: Ashley zhang
TEL: +86 13760394452
website: www.liitokala.com.cn
Email : sales@liitokala.com.cn
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Sat: 9:00am – 22:00pm
LiitoKala Power Co.,LTD（DongGuan battery factory)
Add: No.38 Changsheng Road, Tiantangwei, Fenggang Town, Dongguan City, Guangdong,523690,China
website: www.liitokala.com.cn
Contact: ZhangNi
TEL: +86 13760394452
Email and Skype : liitokala@126.com
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Sat: 9:00am – 22:00pm
HongKong LiitoKala Power Co.,LTD（Hong Kong office)
Add: room 01,21/F,Prosper Commercial Building,9 Yin Chong Street,KowLoon,H.K
website: www.liitokala.com.cn
Contact: Cherleen
TEL: +86 13760394452
Email : liitokala@126.com
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Sat: 9:00am – 22:00pm
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LiitoKala belonging to shenzhen XinShengLi power co., LTD
Add: 6th Floor,Ling wu industral Road 8 D,Shenzhen Guanlan Junzhibu,Guangdong province,518110,China
Tel: +86-13417331508
Email:emily@liito-kala.com
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Fri : 9:00am – 6:00pm
Purchase link:
https://liitokala.aliexpress.com
LiitoKala Official Flagship Store [Store #133859] Lager
(from http://www.liito-kala.com/ )
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Liitokala Official Store [Store #217753]
I found another one….
- Liitokala Direct Store [Store #1823237)
As I've said other times, AliExpress sellers can change their store names anytime. Clearest example I can show you is store number 1721160. I can recall it being named Colaier Direct Sales Store, then AM battery Store, later it was LiitoKala 0ficcial Store (notice the 0 :-D instead of an O) and as you can see it now is Charger Battery Store. Suffice to say it is run by a crook. 
Cheers ^:)
Ok, after forgetting about it a while, its been two weeks and the tracking number is not active. The contact page promising 24 hour response does nothing, tried several times, and the live chat never works.
This is just a fraud site, guess add 192led to the list, have to file a paypal dispute now. Thought people recommending things in this thread had actually used the stores before, guess not.
Zeroair tested one variation of these “30Q” Liitokalas from Aliexpress.
Spoiler: was not Samsung 30Q. Good capacity, useless in high current applications.
/\ …… Thanks for sharing that info & link maukka. . 
Today I received an order of 12 30Q for $ 34.22.
Possibly they are the same ones that tested Zeroair.
First tests.
- four leg positive terminal.
- between 3.73 and 3.90V.
- between 45.6 and 46.3g.
I would have been surprised if I had received legit cells.
I will update…
Yeah, I don’t like zeroair’s conclusions.
He should have said not to buy these cells at all. I don’t give money to fraudsters like the folks at Liitokala.
Four positive terminals means it’s a no go.
And why is there a 0,17V difference between cells? That’s not good…
Good chance they are LGF1 3350mAh 4.8A cells. Looks just like them, 4 posts and all. The LGF1 is commonly used in powerbanks and various battery packs. In bulk, they cost well under a dollar each.
@RobertB, it’s an LG F1L.
However, there have been reports of cells leaking, having extremely high internal resistance, high self discharge(3 months!), etc.
I would not risk it.
You can still dispute it. NCR18650B is Panasonic’s part number and nobody else’s. And the listing says “Original”
I know what it is, I have several of them from a powerbank. Haven’t heard or seen those reports
using that @xxx, doesn’t page anyone.
Sorry, just wanted to precise it’s an F1L, not F1. Might have been a bit too precise :\
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Sorry, just wanted to precise it’s an F1L, not F1. Might have been a bit too precise :\/quote]
If you want to get real precise call it a LGABF1L. In the mean time, I’ll call it an LG-F1
Those F1s are apparently really cheap in bulk too. I can imagine it would be pretty profitable to re-wrap and sell some for certain shady dealers… 