OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²

I must have missed that :person_facepalming: :+1:

I just found some info regarding the luminance of these two LEDs which allows us to calucate the luminance value at any current based on the lumens:

CSLNM1.TG: 108cd, 325lm, 1,0609mm2 => 101,8cd/mm2 => 0,313cd/mm2 per lumen

CSLPM1.TG: 171cd, 515lm, 1,9875mm2 => 86cd/mm2 => 0,167cd/mm2 per lumen

Am I the only one person here that have dizziness of all that numbers and names like clsmngt1tuturbo etc. ?

It is confusing, Osram doesn’t have good names for them.
We basically have a 1mm^2 white flat, 2mm^2 white flat, and the boost HX which is just a bigger version of the 2mm^2 white flat.

I really don’t know how I am getting 400 plus kcd in Brinyte B158? Magic? :slight_smile: Bad lux meter which usually under reads dedomed XP-G2 S4 2B with greenish tint (confirmed by you) is possible reason since white flat 1mm is more blueish?

So if B158 goes from 330kcd(g2) to 430kcd(WF1mm) so that is 30%? Yesterday I sold one with same numbers… Same applies for Mitko Super thrower(430kcd! )…

Looks brighter. Throws further in a night…? Strange indeed…

Boost HX I like that name because it relaxes my brain.

Very confusing, but liked KW CSLPM1.TG – 2mm2 :person_facepalming: a lot in C8+.

Is there any reasonable 60-70mm reflector or aspheric still in production that isn’t like $125+?

I did see this which looks like a slightly modified version of some other generic lights:

http://ylplight.com/en/katalog/1/ballista-30/

So I put a 2mm² version in my Amutorch JM70.
I don’t trust my intensity numbers, but at 5m my “ceilingbounce” app says :
Before (XP-L HI) : 270kCd
After (CSLPM1.TG) : 555kCD ?!
Same distance, same phone, same all except for the LED… awesome !

I also put a 1mm² in my Cometa :
Before (FET driver + XP-L HI) 200 kCd
After (2,8A 8*7135 Biscotti driver + CSLNM1.TG) : 280kCd

EDIT : My B158B now rocks an 1mm² one too, and a 2,8A Biscotti driver : 345kCd !

High current is not required to get some serious throw with this LED :smiley:

Seem that you managed to pump it up 105,56 % footballfields.
I modded my C8 up 80,88 % Convoy C8+ New look for an old favorite - #144 by Talpa
This is with calibrated luxmeter.

can i help you with something for buy ?

Makes me want to buy more 1mm2 white flat.

I don’t know what luxmeter you use but your results are somewhat closer to mine first redneck test(you even got slightly higher results than myself)…

For me B158 goes 430kcd with 5.5 5.8A current draw and when it falls somewhere at 3A(fet driver) it is equalized in performance with de domed G2 s4 2b(driven at 4.7A I have 330kcd in B158 with g2).

For bigger host like SR95S UT of mine that measures to have Vf of 3.28v(I didn’t measure current but should be around 4.5A according to djozz’s graph), BLF GT heat up faster than my mod when I hold them left and right high on my shoulders for ten minutes or so. I think it should be fine for big host to up the current to 5A.

Dang, this thread is long and confusing, unfortunately I don’t have the time to read all posts. I just found the collected voltage vs current and output diagrams in the first post and thought this LEDs could be usable for a 3D printed “kids save” thrower with 3x Eneloop and couple of 7135, perhaps in combination with a 60.0mm Ultra Narrow Catadioptric (10158). Is this a good idea? There are at least 2 similar LEDs mentioned here, which one would be the best choice?

^ yes this is a good led for a low current/power thrower.

But we already had the (dedomed) XP-E2 for that, not many modders have used that led but I have build quite a few nice small throwers with it over the years.

This KW CSLNM1-TG is much more capable though, with its low voltage even with small batteries it reaches its maximum power.

Thanks!
I have to order some components now …

If you want larger emitter his larger brother white flat 2mm may be even better for same configuration.

Oh…

I will change thread name and put both in first post so it will not be so confusing….

But it needs more current, I guess?
I’m thinking of a light with a separate LED for flood and perhaps another one for RGB output. I still have two XM-L RGBW LEDs lying around and a couple of spare S2+ reflectors. 3D printing added a lot of options.

I edited thread name and I added White Flat 1mm& White Flat 2mm aka OSRAM KW CSLNM1.TG (1mm2) & Osram KW CSLPM1.TG (2mm2) in first post of this thread. Both Djozz tests are in first post of thread.