The BLF A6 has ruined me!

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I like the concept of a longer press to reverse the direction of the mode sequence, but the press length to go in reverse is too long for me.
The bigger problem with A6 for me is that the duration of the press needed to go back changes as the driver warms up.

The other thing is that the light consumes huge amount of current on turbo and generates a ton of heat which it cannot dissipate, but delivers only marginally higher output than something like Convoy S2+.

A6 may have been something special when it first came out. Today – not so much, IMO.

Yeah, but the lowest mode on an S2+ is way brighter and less versatile than the lowest mode on the A6 and it ****ing blinks as you use it. Sick Also, Convoy tail switches kind of suck. Sometimes I half press and it doesn’t cycle, sometimes it cycles backwards for one half press, then it goes forward again. The A6 is way better than an S2+ for me because 1) the brightness steps are much more usable than the 3-sizes-fit-most approach that something like the S2+ uses. You say that the A6 generates too much heat, but the S2+ doesn’t even put out as much brightness on the highest setting. Dial the A6 back a step and it’s more comparable in heat management. 2) There is NO mode memory, so I can always predict the kind of light I will get, even if I don’t remember the mode it was in last time I turned it off — no more blinding everybody in the restaurant due to 1000 lumens reflecting off the menu accidentally. And 3) the pocket clip on the A6 is actually good, unlike the Convoy pocket clip, which slips off the flashlight body when I go to put it into my pocket.

I haven’t noticed that the length of the press to reverse modes on the A6 changes as the driver warms up, since I don’t usually use the light that way. I switch to the mode I need when I turn it on and when I’m done with the task, I’m done with the light. I have noticed that even when the light is cold, the length of press required to cycle backwards is way longer than the claimed 0.5-1.5 seconds — more like 2 seconds on mine. And that’s the medium press. The long press is a 4 second hold on half press. Both are a bit long, but I can deal with the 2 second delay to access turbo as a sacrifice for the mode memoryless design. At least it’s only two motions and not seven.

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koziy wrote:
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The bigger problem with A6 for me is that the duration of the press needed to go back changes as the driver warms up.

The other thing is that the light consumes huge amount of current on turbo and generates a ton of heat which it cannot dissipate, but delivers only marginally higher output than something like Convoy S2+.

A6 may have been something special when it first came out. Today – not so much, IMO.

Yeah, but the lowest mode on an S2+ is way brighter and less versatile than the lowest mode on the A6 and it ****ing blinks as you use it. Sick Also, Convoy tail switches kind of suck. Sometimes I half press and it doesn’t cycle, sometimes it cycles backwards for one half press, then it goes forward again. The A6 is way better than an S2+ for me because 1) the brightness steps are much more usable than the 3-sizes-fit-most approach that something like the S2+ uses. You say that the A6 generates too much heat, but the S2+ doesn’t even put out as much brightness on the highest setting. Dial the A6 back a step and it’s more comparable in heat management. 2) There is NO mode memory, so I can always predict the kind of light I will get, even if I don’t remember the mode it was in last time I turned it off — no more blinding everybody in the restaurant due to 1000 lumens reflecting off the menu accidentally. And 3) the pocket clip on the A6 is actually good, unlike the Convoy pocket clip, which slips off the flashlight body when I go to put it into my pocket.

I haven’t noticed that the length of the press to reverse modes on the A6 changes as the driver warms up, since I don’t usually use the light that way. I switch to the mode I need when I turn it on and when I’m done with the task, I’m done with the light. I have noticed that even when the light is cold, the length of press required to cycle backwards is way longer than the claimed 0.5-1.5 seconds — more like 2 seconds on mine. And that’s the medium press. The long press is a 4 second hold on half press. Both are a bit long, but I can deal with the 2 second delay to access turbo as a sacrifice for the mode memoryless design. At least it’s only two motions and not seven.

I hadn’t noticed before, regarding the change in duration for the “medium/long-press” to go dimmer brightness level, until I got the Mateminco X6S, which runs a similar UI (Bistro). I had configured my X6S to have a high thermal threshold, and when I placed it on Turbo, it got really hot, then when I tried to do the “medium/long-press” to go dimmer brightness, I notice it doesn’t go dimmer but goes to next higher level instead. The duration for “medium/long-press” has changed..

On the Astrolux S1 (BLF A6), I usually haven’t tried it on Turbo that long, so I hadn’t exactly noticed that change in duration for the “medum/long-press”.

However, since I got one of each tint of the Astrolux S1 (1A/3D/5A), I notice that different samples have different duration (even with the flashlights from cold/unused state). One requires a longer medium-press duration to go to lower brightness level than the others. So if one is used to the duration for “medum-press” on one sample, but it’s different duration on another sample of the BLF A6 driver..

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Guys help me choose between BLF A6 and Sofirn SP32a v2?Which one is better light?
I really like the shampagne color of Sp32a v2,i like that it has battery level indicator,and I like the ramping feature it has.BLF A6 claims 1600lumens,are those for real or its similar to SP32a v2 specs?

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bluereidon wrote:
Guys help me choose between BLF A6 and Sofirn SP32a v2?Which one is better light? I really like the shampagne color of Sp32a v2,i like that it has battery level indicator,and I like the ramping feature it has.BLF A6 claims 1600lumens,are those for real or its similar to SP32a v2 specs?

I did some beamshot comparison between the Sofirn SP32A v2.0, Sofirn SP32A (v1) and the Astrolux S1 (3D tint); same camera settings were used, white balance set to “daylight” on my entry-level digicam, so the beam and brightness should be comparable:

indicated “lumens” rating are from the manufacturer, not my measurement (I don’t have a way to measure for now)

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Thank you very much for those photos!The Sp32a v1 seems brighter than both S1 and v2.
I orderer Sp32a v1 from a local show near me.I think I will like it!I am a fan of side switches Smile

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bluereidon wrote:
Thank you very much for those photos!The Sp32a v1 seems brighter than both S1 and v2. I orderer Sp32a v1 from a local show near me.I think I will like it!I am a fan of side switches Smile

You know, comparison photos can be misleading. Just because some light is less bright by comparison at the same photographic exposure doesn’t mean it will look like that to the human eye. If brightness was everything, there are much brighter flashlights out there too.

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koziy wrote:
Yeah, but the lowest mode on an S2+ is way brighter and less versatile than the lowest mode on the A6 and it ****ing blinks as you use it. Sick

I am forced to ask what the heck are you doing using the old and decrepit 3/5 firmware in 2019 instead of Biscotti or something even more advanced and versatile :-U

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Yeah, but the lowest mode on an S2+ is way brighter and less versatile than the lowest mode on the A6 and it ****ing blinks as you use it. Sick
I am forced to ask what the heck are you doing using the old and decrepit 3/5 firmware in 2019 instead of Biscotti or something even more advanced and versatile :-U

Fair question!

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I prefer the BLF A6 to either the Sofirn or the Convoy. But the BLF has its user-interface quirks, and it’s not as impressive by today’s standards as it was a couple of years ago. But overall, it’s still one of the best budget 18650 lights available.

The BLF is the brightest, but it will eat batteries pretty fast on max. The thing steps down after only 45 seconds, so unless you keep boosting it up (it will get hot!) it’s not too bad with batteries. It’s really only impressive with a fresh battery, since it’s not regulated and output will drop as the battery depletes.

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BLF A6 is my other Lego light. 18350/18650 option, single or in quad S41. Lowest mode it’s a night light that runs for days off a charge. My hotel room at SHOT show week before last was pitch black. 4 nights running on an 1100 mah 18350 and four days as an EDC. Great little light for running around with.

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koziy wrote:
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Thank you very much for those photos!The Sp32a v1 seems brighter than both S1 and v2. I orderer Sp32a v1 from a local show near me.I think I will like it!I am a fan of side switches Smile

You know, comparison photos can be misleading. Just because some light is less bright by comparison at the same photographic exposure doesn’t mean it will look like that to the human eye. If brightness was everything, there are much brighter flashlights out there too.


Of course there are brighter flashlight out there but Sofirn has:
-both ramping and stepping mode in 1 flashlight

-Side switch which I like
-Compact

-takes 18650(I prefer this)

-1550lumens or near that is great for a single emitter flashlight

-Has electronic locking mode.

-I am getting mine for like 10$ Smile

Its a winner for me Smile

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Since this thread is comparing the three lights I’m looking at (BLF A6, Sofirn SP32A and SP32A V2.0) this is the best place to ask about the light.

I’m looking for an EDC light that can also be used as a mountain bike light that stays in high mode while riding.

My current light TIPEYE 700LM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CHDFJWD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gvkwCbHK7AFS9

My current light has decent floody beam and maintains high mode on rides. I need my next light to be more of a thrower and the BLF and Sofirn lights are the best bang for the buck. I doubt the Sofirn SP32A V1.0 high mode of 900 lums will maintain brightness. The Sofirn SP32A V2.0 seems like the safest choice of a high mode of 500 lums and the longer runtime. BLF A6 is the most customisable for handlebar mounts/lens/etc.

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Sorry to hijack this thread but it’s probably the most appropriate place to ask. Does anyone know where I can buy a new reflector for my A6? I accidently damaged it a while back Tired

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MochaJoey wrote:
Since this thread is comparing the three lights I’m looking at (BLF A6, Sofirn SP32A and SP32A V2.0) this is the best place to ask about the light.

I’m looking for an EDC light that can also be used as a mountain bike light that stays in high mode while riding.

My current light TIPEYE 700LM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CHDFJWD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gvkwCbHK7AFS9

My current light has decent floody beam and maintains high mode on rides. I need my next light to be more of a thrower and the BLF and Sofirn lights are the best bang for the buck. I doubt the Sofirn SP32A V1.0 high mode of 900 lums will maintain brightness. The Sofirn SP32A V2.0 seems like the safest choice of a high mode of 500 lums and the longer runtime. BLF A6 is the most customisable for handlebar mounts/lens/etc.


Go for Sofirn sp32v2 but I also don’t think you will have problem with v1 too, I don’t think someone will want to ride with over 500 lumens of output Smile
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bluereidon wrote:
MochaJoey wrote:
Since this thread is comparing the three lights I’m looking at (BLF A6, Sofirn SP32A and SP32A V2.0) this is the best place to ask about the light.

I’m looking for an EDC light that can also be used as a mountain bike light that stays in high mode while riding.

My current light TIPEYE 700LM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CHDFJWD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gvkwCbHK7AFS9

My current light has decent floody beam and maintains high mode on rides. I need my next light to be more of a thrower and the BLF and Sofirn lights are the best bang for the buck. I doubt the Sofirn SP32A V1.0 high mode of 900 lums will maintain brightness. The Sofirn SP32A V2.0 seems like the safest choice of a high mode of 500 lums and the longer runtime. BLF A6 is the most customisable for handlebar mounts/lens/etc.


Go for Sofirn sp32v2 but I also don’t think you will have problem with v1 too, I don’t think someone will want to ride with over 500 lumens of output Smile

I generally use my Zebralight SC600w IV Plus at 700 lumens when cycling. I bump it up higher if I’m going downhill. On a mountain bike trail, I’d definitely want more than 500 lumens.

The problem with the Sofirn is it’s too light and generates too much heat, so you can’t run it on high output for long periods of time. The Zebralight uses a much more efficient boost-driver, and a more efficient LED, so it runs a lot cooler at similar levels of output.

I think the BLF A6 would be a better choice for cycling than the Sofirn. I used to use one, and only switched because I wanted regulated output. The BLF A6 isn’t any more efficient than the Sofirn, but it’s a bit larger so can shed heat a bit better.

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Unless you’re concerned about handlebar space, you can just mount two A6s, one on either side of the stem. Then you can run them on high instead of turbo and still light up the trail. I routinely carry two A6s in one hand when I walk my dog at night in the fields. As bright as the A6 is, it’s not as bright as two A6s!

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koziy wrote:
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I like the concept of a longer press to reverse the direction of the mode sequence, but the press length to go in reverse is too long for me.
The bigger problem with A6 for me is that the duration of the press needed to go back changes as the driver warms up.

The other thing is that the light consumes huge amount of current on turbo and generates a ton of heat which it cannot dissipate, but delivers only marginally higher output than something like Convoy S2+.

A6 may have been something special when it first came out. Today – not so much, IMO.

Yeah, but the lowest mode on an S2+ is way brighter and less versatile than the lowest mode on the A6 and it ****ing blinks as you use it. Sick


When I mentioned S2+, I had the biscotti firmware in mind which offers a much lower low mode, and no blinking. I should have been clear about this.
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Pete7874 wrote:
When I mentioned S2+, I had the biscotti firmware in mind which offers a much lower low mode, and no blinking. I should have been clear about this.

I like biscotti on the C8 (I just set to to always run on max). Not so much on the S2+. The modes just don’t seem very well spaced, to me. I’d like the low to be lower, the mediums to be higher, and the max brighter. Even with 8 7135 chips, the max doesn’t seem bright enough, and it suffers from dimming as the battery voltage drops (though not as bad as with a FET driver like the A6).

The advantage of the S2+ is that it has much longer run times, since it’s not sucking as much juice out of the battery as it can.

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thisnameisvalid wrote:
Sorry to hijack this thread but it’s probably the most appropriate place to ask. Does anyone know where I can buy a new reflector for my A6? I accidently damaged it a while back Tired

Although not the factory replacement, the 20×12mm reflector is said to fit. May give a llittle more throw, however. Widely available at Ali Exp, Ebay, etc.

Fits Astrolux S1, which is BLF A6 clone.

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WalkIntoTheLight wrote:
I like biscotti on the C8 (I just set to to always run on max). Not so much on the S2+. The modes just don’t seem very well spaced, to me. I’d like the low to be lower, the mediums to be higher, and the max brighter.
Personal, preference, I guess. I actually like the mode spacing very much.

The jump from 35% to 100% of power output is great, so your eyes can actually notice a visible difference between the two levels. Too many lights go from 70-80% to 100%, and your eyes can’t tell much difference.

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For bike trails, I found the Convoy S2 at 50% max power (Biscotti, mode group 8) lights things up nicely with an even beam. Although that may suit technical singletrack full of turns and twists better than a more straight flowy trail, in which case the M1 has a great beam profile balance.

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Jack Kellar wrote:
For bike trails, I found the Convoy S2 at 50% max power (Biscotti, mode group 8) lights things up nicely with an even beam. Although that may suit technical singletrack full of turns and twists better than a more straight flowy trail, in which case the M1 has a great beam profile balance.

There are only twisty trails by me so a Convoy S2+ set up for throw is tempting. Does your Convoy S2+ have 7135×6 or 7135×8 drivers?
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I'm thinking about getting the BLF A6 short tube for the 18350 battery.

But what 18350 battery should I get?

Protected or unprotected and are there any size limitations?

I am in UK and the number of suppliers is quite limited for this battery size.

I've come to grief with unprotected/protected size issues before and I don't want to get caught again.

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Do any of you flashlight weirdos have a wife? Or two?

She never, ever fails to remind me….do you really need another…watch…flashlight….gadget.


Yes, honey, I need another flashlight, just like you need another pair of shoes, a purse, a dress, etc.
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Not a huge fan of the BL-A6 here.

My problem is the driver. I found the timing necessary to cycle modes was fiddly.

For clicky switch lights I much prefer the DrJones H17F driver with its intuitive double-click for turbo setup. And I find all clicky switch UIs to be inferior to good e-switch UI like Ramping IOS in the Emisar D4 or Anduril.

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Firelight2 wrote:
Not a huge fan of the BL-A6 here.

My problem is the driver. I found the timing necessary to cycle modes was fiddly.

The normal “quick press” timing is fine. It’s the reverse “long press” that is complete crap. Hard to get right even when it works, and it changes all over the place depending on the temperature. I don’t even bother with it. Just set it to a 4-mode light and use the regular quick-press cycling.

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Pete7874 wrote:
Spartan wrote:
Do any of you flashlight weirdos have a wife? Or two?

She never, ever fails to remind me….do you really need another…watch…flashlight….gadget.


Yes, honey, I need another flashlight, just like you need another pair of shoes, a purse, a dress, etc.

Wife….“But honey, I wear all that to look good for you, why do you need another flashlight?”

Browbeaten husband….“to look for another wife”.

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I just bought two of these ( BLF A6 XPL 1600Lumens 7/4modes EDC LED Flashlight 18650) from Banggood for $38.38. I wish I could tell you how they were but they sent me a $2 dog collar instead of my flashlights.

what the hell ?? send them a pic what u got, if they refuse just do a paypal dispute for goods wrong recived…

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jimfoto wrote:
I just bought two of these ( BLF A6 XPL 1600Lumens 7/4modes EDC LED Flashlight 18650) from Banggood for $38.38. I wish I could tell you how they were but they sent me a $2 dog collar instead of my flashlights.

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Firelight2 wrote:
Not a huge fan of the BL-A6 here.

My problem is the driver. I found the timing necessary to cycle modes was fiddly.

For clicky switch lights I much prefer the DrJones H17F driver with its intuitive double-click for turbo setup. And I find all clicky switch UIs to be inferior to good e-switch UI like Ramping IOS in the Emisar D4 or Anduril.

that is funny, i almost never use the long-press to step down
i find that it is just as fast to go up 5, as it is to go down 1, gets to the same place and you don;t have to do the fiddly timing
going up 1 step is lightning fast—not even a click or a half press, just kind of a tap will do it

also since it does not go to a blinky mode if you click really fast, it makes going up 5 faster and less thinking, than going down 1

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