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How she did not think you were a high-functioning autistic person, I will never know..

Second funniest thing I have heard so far in 2019.

First place is held by my daughter (13) she caught my son (11) saying a cuss word, at which point I over hear my daughter say, “Alex, you better stop cussing, you know dad won’t put up with that s#!t”.

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Nah… i have an autistic friend, he doesn’t like flashlight at all. He likes LEGO though.

cool i'll see you when you get there

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LouieAtienza wrote:
Really, this attitude is atrocious… If a guy thinks his phone light is adequate, then so be it. Why is he all the sudden a moron? This is exactly the attitude that turns people off. These are grown adults – they got this far without us holding their hands; I’m sure they’ll manage the rest of their lives.

Even referring to non-flashaholics as “muggles.” Really, like these are lesser people? What are we – enrolled in Hogwarts or something? Not everyone is as smart as you – you don’t need to remind them. Big Smile

You have no problem spouting your opinion about my opinion and…neither will I.

Save the nonsense. Changing a flat tire on the side of a dark road with a phone light is suicide. Period. End of story.

Having someone spouting that and telling others that they don’t need a flashllight doesn’t make them adults.

As for muggles, that term has been used a million times in here with nothing more derogatory intent then to define those who do not know much about flashlights.

Moving on….

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Spartan wrote:
LouieAtienza wrote:
Really, this attitude is atrocious… If a guy thinks his phone light is adequate, then so be it. Why is he all the sudden a moron? This is exactly the attitude that turns people off. These are grown adults – they got this far without us holding their hands; I’m sure they’ll manage the rest of their lives.

Even referring to non-flashaholics as “muggles.” Really, like these are lesser people? What are we – enrolled in Hogwarts or something? Not everyone is as smart as you – you don’t need to remind them. Big Smile

You have no problem spouting your opinion about my opinion and…neither will I.

Save the nonsense. Changing a flat tire on the side of a dark road with a phone light is suicide. Period. End of story.

Having someone spouting that and telling others that they don’t need a flashllight doesn’t make them adults.

Moving on….

Yes if it’s stupidity, it’s their stupidity. That you’ve appointed yourself the judge, jury, and executioner of these people is hilarious at best. Did he specifically state that he’d use his cellphone light in a dark alley or to change his tire, or did you impose the question?

The FACT is people that are otherwise smart do stupid things. Everyone does at some point and time. Almost everone carries their phone. Not everone carries their light all the time. Even you as a flashlight enthusiast don’t carry a light all the time – otherwise you could have shown the lady what a real flashlight is. So if you don’t even carry a flashlight all the time, how do you expect a kid with a cellphone to?

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I see a lot of long winded posts in here. Let me sum up how I took this: You took what she was saying the wrong way. She was probably a bit shocked with your product knowledge. People don’t usually come up out of nowhere and say, “hey, hey you, not that one, THIS ONE!” Lol. You did the right thing just don’t expect a normal answer to a not so normal conversation.

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Whoa there big fellas…………….Simmer down my friends.

I think it is fair to say everyone has strong opinions on this subject. Spartan, I see you as very enthusiastic new flashlight guy. I was too not that long ago. This bunch on here are good for allowing you to form and express your opinion but, you kinda have to take the criticism that comes with it. You mention changing a tire on a dark road without a flashlight suicide. Not true really. People have been doing it long before flashlights and, car headlights were useless at best. I also seem to remember a certain someone rushing out the door with their newly acquired Q8 to confront a conceived threat to an empty home. Probably more suicidal than using a cellphone light for changing a tire.

Nobody here means you any harm. They would really like to see you happy in this lighting interest we all share. There are options and opinions to keep all of us happy. When you make a poor decision or get butt hurt for the wrong reason what would you rather have. Everyone here sugar coat it or tell ya the truth. We wouldn’t do you any justice by blowing smoke up your bum.

Louie means well. Everyone does. Relax, learn, teach, breathe, repeat. 73 my friend.

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LouieAtienza wrote:
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Really, this attitude is atrocious… If a guy thinks his phone light is adequate, then so be it. Why is he all the sudden a moron? This is exactly the attitude that turns people off. These are grown adults – they got this far without us holding their hands; I’m sure they’ll manage the rest of their lives.

Even referring to non-flashaholics as “muggles.” Really, like these are lesser people? What are we – enrolled in Hogwarts or something? Not everyone is as smart as you – you don’t need to remind them. Big Smile

You have no problem spouting your opinion about my opinion and…neither will I.

Save the nonsense. Changing a flat tire on the side of a dark road with a phone light is suicide. Period. End of story.

Having someone spouting that and telling others that they don’t need a flashllight doesn’t make them adults.

Moving on….

Yes if it’s stupidity, it’s their stupidity. That you’ve appointed yourself the judge, jury, and executioner of these people is hilarious at best. Did he specifically state that he’d use his cellphone light in a dark alley or to change his tire, or did you impose the question?

The FACT is people that are otherwise smart do stupid things. Everyone does at some point and time. Almost everone carries their phone. Not everone carries their light all the time. Even you as a flashlight enthusiast don’t carry a light all the time – otherwise you could have shown the lady what a real flashlight is. So if you don’t even carry a flashlight all the time, how do you expect a kid with a cellphone to?

I carry an Olight on my keychain and the Q8 plus VG10s in the car. None of them would suit someone who is judging a light by the amount of led’s.

As for the phone light, after I brought up the suicide level of danger in using a phone light as an emergency light to change a tire, he disappeared. And so did his post.

As for judge, jury and executioner, that is EXACTLY what you are doing with your opinion of my opinion. Your high horse has the same legs as my high horse.

Are we done on this?

If not, take it to PM….

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You might want to give this a read Spartan….. Big Smile
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toddcshoe wrote:

First place is held by my daughter (13) she caught my son (11) saying a cuss word, at which point I over hear my daughter say, “Alex, you better stop cussing, you know dad won’t put up with that s#!t”.
Priceless!! . Thumbs Up

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Wow, this thread is cringey.

Most people just don’t care about flashlights. Fact. It’s a hobby that usually just isn’t worth broadcasting. Even a cheap Amazon light is perfectly adequate for most peoples’ needs in the grand scheme of things.

I have one friend who is into tech and he loves it when I take a new light over to his house and he proceeds to blind everything around him, but that’s it. Nobody else cares and I don’t bother them with it unless they ask. Even then it’s usually just “is that another new torch?” to which I just reply “yep, new toy”.

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Spartan wrote:
LouieAtienza wrote:
Spartan wrote:
LouieAtienza wrote:
Really, this attitude is atrocious… If a guy thinks his phone light is adequate, then so be it. Why is he all the sudden a moron? This is exactly the attitude that turns people off. These are grown adults – they got this far without us holding their hands; I’m sure they’ll manage the rest of their lives.

Even referring to non-flashaholics as “muggles.” Really, like these are lesser people? What are we – enrolled in Hogwarts or something? Not everyone is as smart as you – you don’t need to remind them. Big Smile

You have no problem spouting your opinion about my opinion and…neither will I.

Save the nonsense. Changing a flat tire on the side of a dark road with a phone light is suicide. Period. End of story.

Having someone spouting that and telling others that they don’t need a flashllight doesn’t make them adults.

Moving on….

Yes if it’s stupidity, it’s their stupidity. That you’ve appointed yourself the judge, jury, and executioner of these people is hilarious at best. Did he specifically state that he’d use his cellphone light in a dark alley or to change his tire, or did you impose the question?

The FACT is people that are otherwise smart do stupid things. Everyone does at some point and time. Almost everone carries their phone. Not everone carries their light all the time. Even you as a flashlight enthusiast don’t carry a light all the time – otherwise you could have shown the lady what a real flashlight is. So if you don’t even carry a flashlight all the time, how do you expect a kid with a cellphone to?

I carry an Olight on my keychain and the Q8 plus VG10s in the car. None of them would suit someone who is judging a light by the amount of led’s.

As for the phone light, after I brought up the suicide level of danger in using a phone light as an emergency light to change a tire, he disappeared. And so did his post.

As for judge, jury and executioner, that is EXACTLY what you are doing with your opinion of my opinion. Your high horse has the same legs as my high horse.

Are we done on this?

If not, take it to PM….

Did you show your keychain light to your lady friend? Is it brighter than a cellphone light? Hardly an EDC – not exactly what I’d carry in a dark alley way.

As to opinions, that’s where our differences lie. I merely stated how I felt you treated two fellow human beings. You believe they’re stupid as a matter of fact. That’s the issue I have. You seemingly believe that anyone that doesn’t agree with you or take your advice is stupid. Probably think I’m stupid too. I’m just sticking up for all the muggles – myself included.

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And as this thread descends into chaos…

I’m over here like

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mattadores wrote:
And as this thread descends into chaos…

I’m over here like

!http://66.media.tumblr.com/c3ecf005d0537395c4fe3cb761cfcf4e/tumblr_of9a9...!

I’m still on the fence on whether it was a satire post to begin with. It reminds me of that copypasta about the guy who eats in his car….

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I went to McDonald’s today and got a Filet-O-Fish combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. I was eating it in my vehicle in the parking lot and listening to an audiobook when I glanced up and saw the McDonald’s worker I ordered outside having a cigarette. She waved at me and I nodded and had to wait 7 minutes before she went back inside and I could eat in comfort again. I don’t think that employees should be bothering or even trying to socialize with customers outside of the McDonald’s restaurant or drive through, but that is another story. I went to McDonald’s for dinner tonight and got a McChicken combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. As I was driving to the second window the same girl was still working. She was acting somewhat obsequious and attempting small talk when she asked, ‘why don’t you come eat inside instead of in the parking lot where it is cold’. That really bothered me for many reasons. First of all, I don’t want my routine or actions to be tracked by a fast food employee. Secondly, she should not try to tell me how I should live my life. I do not want to eat inside because I find it less comfortable and would much rather be inside my vehicle listening to an audiobook and enjoying myself and my privacy. Overall, I think it was very unprofessional to bring this up. I should have a clean slate with each drive through visit, not have to get the third degree because I committed some sort of faux pas. Which I don’t think I did, because I often see people eating in fast food parking lots. How does she know I am not busy going to work or somewhere in a rush? How do you feel about eating in your vehicle in the parking lot of a fast food restaurant versus eating inside the restaurant?
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koziy wrote:
mattadores wrote:
And as this thread descends into chaos…

I’m over here like

I’m still on the fence on whether it was a satire post to begin with. It reminds me of that copypasta about the guy who eats in his car….

Whenever quoting gifs or images you have to put a space between the links ! and the [/quote]… not sure why it doesn’t automatically but ohwell.

I hadn’t read that copypasta before and I can imagine the world wide eruption that would’ve taken place! Makes me wonder if it was written originally by an ultimate troll who knew how to make the world burn!

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Most people these days are just askholes.

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Honestly, I have the opposite problem.

When I go outside/when I use my flashlights during work, people actually notice, and start to ask questions…

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Honestly, I have the opposite problem.

When I go outside/when I use my flashlights during work, people actually notice, and start to ask questions…

This made me immediately envision the Wolf of Wall Street scene happening in real life between you and half of the BLF members.

“I tell you what. You show me you using your flashlight and people start asking questions, I quit my job RIGHT NOW and I work for you!”

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mattadores wrote:

Whenever quoting gifs or images you have to put a space between the links ! and the… not sure why it doesn’t automatically but ohwell.

Autoplaying GIFs are annoying, though.

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I side 100% with the woman in this story. 30 seconds of advice is helpful. Spending 15 minutes with a stranger buying a flashlight is creepy. You were just trying to help, but she probably saw it as weird. I don’t blame her for being suspicious.

Frankly, you are probably lucky she only saw it as you being a shill. I would have pepper-sprayed you after 5 minutes. Wink

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Standing in Wally’s World looking at lites; this lady walks up to me and asks, what’s a good lite for hurricane season?
I replied, with me it would be blind lead the blind and we’d both end up in the dark; nevertheless I would guess that this (picking it up) 2c mag lite would be OK. Just then the guy working there walked up and said, Yes that’s a good one, I’ve had one for 5 years. Cool

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koziy wrote:
mattadores wrote:

Whenever quoting gifs or images you have to put a space between the links ! and the… not sure why it doesn’t automatically but ohwell.

Autoplaying GIFs are annoying, though.

Tired Tired Tired but GIFs are like one of my favorite ways to communicate…

lol I get what you mean when it comes to quoted text. same GIF 17 times get’s old fast

unless it’s the best one ever! lol challenge accepted!

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I usually only offer that advice to the guys who work with me. I hand over a thrower and a floody tube light both around 1K lumens. They use them for a day or two, tell me what they like about the light(s) and I tell them what kind of options there are.

I’ve put together a group buy when there was a good deal as well but those guys had already seen the lights compared to the stuff our department issues.

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BlueSwordM wrote:
Honestly, I have the opposite problem.

When I go outside/when I use my flashlights during work, people actually notice, and start to ask questions…

I started hiking again after about 2 decades. Brought my BLF GT70 on my backpack. Talk about conversation starter! Next week I brought my X80. An ice-breaker in more ways than one…

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Standing in Wally’s World looking at lites; this lady walks up to me and asks, what’s a good lite for hurricane season?

“Oh, I’d say a BLF Q8 with bypassed springs and some ‘351Ds in there, with unprotected 30Q button-tops, and, uhh, oh!, and don’t forget a decent charger like an Opus or Miboxer…”

 

     “Whut?”

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toddcshoe wrote:
Whoa there big fellas…………….Simmer down my friends.

I think it is fair to say everyone has strong opinions on this subject. Spartan, I see you as very enthusiastic new flashlight guy. I was too not that long ago. This bunch on here are good for allowing you to form and express your opinion but, you kinda have to take the criticism that comes with it. You mention changing a tire on a dark road without a flashlight suicide. Not true really. People have been doing it long before flashlights and, car headlights were useless at best. I also seem to remember a certain someone rushing out the door with their newly acquired Q8 to confront a conceived threat to an empty home. Probably more suicidal than using a cellphone light for changing a tire.

Nobody here means you any harm. They would really like to see you happy in this lighting interest we all share. There are options and opinions to keep all of us happy. When you make a poor decision or get butt hurt for the wrong reason what would you rather have. Everyone here sugar coat it or tell ya the truth. We wouldn’t do you any justice by blowing smoke up your bum.

Louie means well. Everyone does. Relax, learn, teach, breathe, repeat. 73 my friend.

I have posted on forums for a couple of decades and do have a pretty thick skin but what I thought would be “it’s a good idea, not a good idea” or the limits of what you can recommend to a non-enthusiast turned personal. That’s when I respond in kind. And will also easily drop it.

As for tire changes……way back, about 40 years ago, I was changing tires on a lit, repeat, lit suburban road and felt the car pass so close that it made my skin crawl. It’s one of those events that I can tell you the car, the wheels, the place, the time of night and the weather and the amount of fear. Was it by accident or intent? I will never know. From there on in, two flashlights and a yellow vest are always in my cars. In fact, my very first post here was about emergency flashlights. Why?? To upgrade. Now there is a Q8 and a VG10s in the car.

Fast forward to me taking exception to a phone light. It’s not suicide, it’s suicidal. The risk is not worth a lousy dirt cheap 20 dollar flashlight.

BTW…..if many European countries, you have to have flares and a yellow jacket in the car for the same reason I am concerned and associated danger.

Anywho….this thread has gone a bit sideways.

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spartan.. m8… you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.

as the IQ approach’s the retarded end of the scale you have to realise that it is in fact you and your fault alone, the whole world knows it… you get the drift. (time for a polite exit and polite mam’s n madoms lol).

apologies to any retards here..we do try.

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I don’t know…

Couldn’t get past “I was in Home Depot. Obviously passing by the flashlight section is a religious thing.”

The HOME DEPOT flashlight section? Ughh

I was in Home Depot last month and while wandering through various isles I suddenly realized I was in front of some basic LED flashlights. Yeah, the flashlight section. Knowing what we all know here, I didn’t see anything inspiring. The only light from above was a super cold warehouse LED light fixture. Innocent

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Lightbringer wrote:
lampliter wrote:
Standing in Wally’s World looking at lites; this lady walks up to me and asks, what’s a good lite for hurricane season?

“Oh, I’d say a BLF Q8 with bypassed springs and some ‘351Ds in there, with unprotected 30Q button-tops, and, uhh, oh!, and don’t forget a decent charger like an Opus or Miboxer…”

 

     “Whut?”

My wife would beat you like a mule if she saw that…..and she stills annoyed that she has to learn….ramp up, flash, ramp down on the Q8.

If anything, I would be guilty and many of us would be guilty of not having as much patience or sympathy for not understanding what to us is a simple thing. You wrote earlier that we need something simple and to be honest, I agree with you 100%.

A few weeks or so back, I started a thread about emergency flashlights. You participated in it. One of my “criteria” of an emergency light would be that it should have a simple interface. Click to click ramping, 3 at most and if you held it down 5 seconds, flashing. That is the high limit of the bottom end of usability.

It was even more apparent to me that is has to be a requirement when I gave my wife the Q8 without instruction. She just kept pressing buttons for a full minute and told me the light was broken. This is from someone who used Coast 14 at work at least a hundred times. Thousands of times in her lifetime. Who also has zero fear of big machinery or technology.

So yes, to the vast majority of people, our hobby is probably on the scale of advanced hammer technology. It’s not because they can’t, witness modern cell phone and the amount of knowledge it takes to interface with them, but because it’s just a hammer flashlight.

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I don’t know…

Couldn’t get past “I was in Home Depot. Obviously passing by the flashlight section is a religious thing.”

The HOME DEPOT flashlight section? Ughh

I was in Home Depot last month and while wandering through various isles I suddenly realized I was in front of some basic LED flashlights. Yeah, the flashlight section. Knowing what we all know here, I didn’t see anything inspiring. The only light from above was a super cold warehouse LED light fixture. Innocent

My father had a running joke about the coke maker (feul) who became a millionaire. Back in the old country, back then, there was a coke maker somewhere in the county turning wood into coke (feul). This coke maker won a million dollars…but could not help himself from looking at a pile of wood and thinking…..what a great pile of wood to make coke from.

Same thing with me. Over the years, I have a collection of Coasts. Not as a hobby, but of need. Not great but neither was my standards of what I expected from a flashlight.

So now…..what a wonder pile of wood……

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Fast forward to me taking exception to a phone light. It’s not suicide, it’s suicidal. The risk is not worth a lousy dirt cheap 20 dollar flashlight.

BTW…..if many European countries, you have to have flares and a yellow jacket in the car for the same reason I am concerned and associated danger.

No yellow accoutrements, but to this day I keep about a half-dozen flares (the burny kind) in each car, for just such occasions.

Don’t hafta worry about whether/not they’re charged, or leaked, or anything of the kind. They Just Work.

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