【convoy】H4 and B35AM options are updated

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

Another +1 for USB-C. MicroUSB doesn’t belong on newly-introduced products in 2019 even if it’s cheaper.

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

I noticed some interesting options for the XHP50.2 emitters listed in the Convoy store. The description says “Ra(H4-3A)=90 other Ra= 70”.

First of all, an XHP50.2 in a rosy tint bin with 90 CRI? Given the reputation of current generation Cree emitters, I’ll believe it when maukka’s photospectrometer sees it, but that could be pretty amazing. Of course, it will still likely need heavy texturing or some diffusion for a nice looking beam.

And then there are 40G and 30G lumped in with those “others” that have Ra=70. This is not listed in the datasheet; might these actually be Ra=80?

[Simon_Mao]

@Convoylover

@Simon Mao

@Convoylover

@zeremefico

Which driver will be used in S21A?

Probably any 17mm driver that also fits in the S2 (Simon mentioned that already). My preference still is Biscotti or plain single mode. You can buy a host, driver and LED and assemble it yourself - quite easily.

20mm driver for S21A

Oww, I thought you mentioned that reflector and pill were the same as the S2, so a lot could be interchanged.
Are you planning to produce 20mm drivers with 7135*x single/5mode and Biscotti?

i can produce some 20mm drivers or 20mm to 17mm adapter ring.

[Simon_Mao]

@Diomedes

@Simon Mao

@clientequator

hello Mr Simon Mao, I see an interesting silver S2+ for 21700 size in your photo! Is this for sale yet?

this is an sample,
S2+ 21700 is in production

Very exciting. Can’t wait.

Simon, are you also still planning to make a quad emitter host for the S2+ 21700?

i will get some carclo lens first and check if i should do adjustions

[Simon_Mao]

@Convoylover

@Simon Mao

(wrote @ 02/16/2019)
ready to produce S2+ 21700,
no big difference from S2+ 18650,
diameter 24-24.5mm , almost the same as S2+ 18650
,but a little longer .
the reflector and pill are the same

Simon, is this still true, or has it changed?

a little longer ,and diameter 26mm

[Simon_Mao]

[quote=ichoderso]

@Simon Mao

@aswang

in fact ,it’s 5A1 in current H1,
if you dont like the UI , you can wait for next batch

Simon, that sounds nice, that you change the UI… Can you tell about the LEDs you will offer in the new batch (Hi CRI SST20 3-4000k or others… SAMSUNG LH351D 4000K 90CRI LED also fine:-))??

Jens
and thank you again for your fast answers in this forum!! :+1:

i use CREE XML2 because it has floody beam ,
SST20 makes the beam too narrow

[BlueSwordM]

Making SST-20 BLF variant for H1 would be great, even if a bit more expensive for us.

[Simon_Mao]

@Delta_V

Simon, for the USB charging lights, how difficult would it be to switch to a Type C port?

Most phones (not counting Apple and their Lightning port) have been using Type C since 2016. That means people are more likely to have Type C cables laying around than Micro. Not to mention Type C is just pbjectely better in every way.

Personally, I’m trying to phase out Micro USB and actively avoiding buying new products that have it. Even if it causes a small price increase, I’d gladly pay that to not deal with Micro USB charging cables.

Maybe you think that I am out of date, but in fact most people use the micro usb interface.

[oweban]

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[Simon_Mao]

@zak.wilson

Another +1 for USB-C. MicroUSB doesn’t belong on newly-introduced products in 2019 even if it’s cheaper.

This is not because of cost, but actually most people use micro usb.

[Simon_Mao]

@zak.wilson

I noticed some interesting options for the XHP50.2 emitters listed in the Convoy store. The description says “Ra(H4-3A)=90 other Ra= 70”.

First of all, an XHP50.2 in a rosy tint bin with 90 CRI? Given the reputation of current generation Cree emitters, I’ll believe it when maukka’s photospectrometer sees it, but that could be pretty amazing. Of course, it will still likely need heavy texturing or some diffusion for a nice looking beam.

And then there are 40G and 30G lumped in with those “others” that have Ra=70. This is not listed in the datasheet; might these actually be Ra=80?

This is not particularly important. In fact, because the spot of XHP50 is not uniform, color rendering is meaningless unless we use a TIR lens.

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

i use CREE XML2 because it has floody beam ,
SST20 makes the beam too narrow

Indeed, the SST-20 is very throwy for a headlamp. The LH351D is not - if anything, it’s a bit more floody than the XM-L2. It’s also very efficient for a high-CRI emitter.

This is not because of cost, but actually most people use micro usb.

Most smartphones made in the past 3 years use USB-C. Most people in the US and Europe have a phone that uses USB-C now unless they’re iPhone users. Other markets may be different, but many of us do not want to buy any more devices using the older connector. USB-C is also more durable, and being non-directional is much more convenient.

because the spot of XHP50 is not uniform, color rendering is meaningless unless we use a TIR lens

That’s… mostly true, and I hate recent Cree emitters for it. Colors are still more vivid though even if they’re not more accurate with the higher Ra emitters. If they’re Ra=80, saying they’re Ra=70 will only hurt your sales. If they’re actually Ra=70 in a bin not listed in the datasheet, it would be interesting to know that.

[Simon_Mao]

@zak.wilson

i use CREE XML2 because it has floody beam ,
SST20 makes the beam too narrow

Indeed, the SST-20 is very throwy for a headlamp. The LH351D is not - if anything, it’s a bit more floody than the XM-L2. It’s also very efficient for a high-CRI emitter.

This is not because of cost, but actually most people use micro usb.

Most smartphones made in the past 3 years use USB-C. Most people in the US and Europe have a phone that uses USB-C now unless they’re iPhone users. Other markets may be different, but many of us do not want to buy any more devices using the older connector. USB-C is also more durable, and being non-directional is much more convenient.

because the spot of XHP50 is not uniform, color rendering is meaningless unless we use a TIR lens

That’s… mostly true, and I hate recent Cree emitters for it. Colors are still more vivid though even if they’re not more accurate with the higher Ra emitters. If they’re Ra=80, saying they’re Ra=70 will only hurt your sales. If they’re actually Ra=70 in a bin not listed in the datasheet, it would be interesting to know that.

In this case, I need to produce two versions, one micro USB, one type-c,
the spot of luminus sst40 is great,it’s a pity that it doesnt have high CRI LED or 4000K Tc

[mitsuki08]

@Simon Mao

In this case, I need to produce two versions, one micro USB, one type-c

Thanks for not totally removing the Micro USB Simon! Although I perfectly understand the concerns of people who want USB Type-C being since it is, personally, better. Sadly where I’m from Micro USB is still the most used cable where you can literally experience the woes of people who use USB Type-C having a hard time borrowing cables when they left theirs. I do have Micro USB to Type-C adapters though so this is just me sharing my day-to-day experiences.

[Simon_Mao]

@mitsuki08

@Simon Mao

In this case, I need to produce two versions, one micro USB, one type-c

Thanks for not totally removing the Micro USB Simon! Although I perfectly understand the concerns of people who want USB Type-C being since it is, personally, better. Sadly where I’m from Micro USB is still the most used cable where you can literally experience the woes of people who use USB Type-C having a hard time borrowing cables when they left theirs. I do have Micro USB to Type-C adapters though so this is just me sharing my day-to-day experiences.

Taking me as an example, when iphone 4 went on the market, my family started to buy iphone, but gradually found that iphone did not meet our usage habits, and with the improvement of android phone quality, my family began to buy Chinese brand mobile phone with micro USB.

Although type-c is better than micro-USB, its decisive role is our usage habits.

[oweban]

Perhaps it’s regional - I’m an iPhone user, but every Android phone I see sold in Australia is USB-C; there’s very few of the Chinese brands that I see on AX/BG make it through to wide-scale market here.

That said - thanks for being willing to listen.

[Di_Joker]

Sorry, I may have missed. Can you tell me Convoy H1 has thermal control?

[Satan (Satan@103TFS)]

Simon can you use “biscotti firmware” for this driver ? https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/17mm-22mm-driver-for-luminus-sst40-LED/330416_32989372464.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.15.dc483cf1vgnL8s

[zaxar0580]

Dear Simon! When will Convoy H1 be available on Aliexpress? Will there be a discount for BLF members? Thank!

[everydaysurvivalgear]

Its true i only just got a phone with USB type C like 6-7 months ago and micro USB is defiantly still more popular worldwide more devices are sold with micro USB than type c. Convoy is not only servicing one country they might get a lot of sales from countries that don’t have the latest tech so Simon has to cater to all markets. Even as community we probably only make up a small percentage of sales for Convoy.