FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

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Some people are interested in the finer details of products.
Personally, I have decided to buy or not to buy stuff many times due to ‘minor details’ alone.
I think people complaining about the particular things they don’t like about a product is great feedback.
Of course, you can’t please everyone but the more ideas kicking about, the better.

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Helps get consensus – while not everyone can be pleased, it helps find issues that a lot of people are passionate about.

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I am down for one. Please can I make that two. Thanks.

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Buzzy243 wrote:
Careful there Tally-ho. The last person who commented about these issues got a stern finger wagging from the mods and then disappeared.

I assume it is a joke, does not sound very BLF at least Smile

I think that tally-ho has some fair points about the direction this project went, but wether you still want to buy the light is a matter of how you like/dislike the add-up of changes. In my taste I see both improvements and changes for worse and it adds up to still wanting my two units.

To decide to not buy the FW3A not because of how it became but because you did not like the process is also fair enough but do not waste too much emotion on that, the way this goes is all too common when involving chinese companies, the most practical way to deal with that is just let it go.

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Bottom line for me is that even after nearly 2 years of waiting, this light should perform like few others. Being small, powerful, with a top notch UI and a tailswitch all for something in the $30 range makes it a winner for me.

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Next up, Lumintop announces FW3A for $99.99…. Big Smile

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CRX wrote:
Next up, Lumintop announces FW3A for $99.99…. Big Smile

That would be about in line with the GT initial group buy price versus full retail.

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CRX wrote:
Next up, Lumintop announces FW3A for $99.99 for BLF members…. Big Smile

That’s with the BLF code…. $89.99 for everybody else… Beer

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I’m in for one!

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One please

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djozz wrote:
Buzzy243 wrote:
Careful there Tally-ho. The last person who commented about these issues got a stern finger wagging from the mods and then disappeared.

I assume it is a joke, does not sound very BLF at least Smile

Someone got banned, but not because of commenting about these issues.

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To decide to not buy the FW3A not because of how it became but because you did not like the process is also fair enough but do not waste too much emotion on that …

Agreed.

Each person has their own reasons to buy or not buy items like this, and that’s fine. There is no such thing as a wrong reason for that decision… because it’s a flashlight. So it’s generally best not to get too worked up about it. In the grand scheme of things it is, as someone recently said, small potatoes. And when someone raves or rants about small potatoes, people give them funny looks.

Granted, many of us probably get funny looks already, for being small potato enthusiasts. But still.

I’m‘a go finish my leftover potatoes.

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CRX wrote:
Next up, Lumintop announces FW3A for $99.99…. Big Smile

Followed a few months later by “Lumintop announces 70% reduction in the price of the FW2A – now only $29.99!”

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+1….. have a Beer with them taters!

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Tally-ho is in no danger of getting banned for the last few posts. People are free to disagree here, as long as it is civil.

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RIP “Sharpie 2.0”, and RIP my lame joke attempt.

I just assumed most people noticed when the almost constant crapping on the FW3A project stopped earlier this month. But I guess I came across a little too literal with Tally-ho.

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Fair enough. I get you. Sometimes it can be a little hard to decipher intent online, but it certainly makes complete sense now. I just wanted to make sure Tally-ho knows that there is a long leash here, and that civilly posted disagreement is always allowed.

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It’s almost like you guys take this flashlight stuff seriously.

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I would like one

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ToyKeeper wrote:
In the grand scheme of things it is, as someone recently said, small potatoes.

Maybe small patatoes but a few manufacturers understood that sometimes, listening small potatoes is good for business.
For recent examples : FireFlies decide to make and sell the stainless steel tail cap as an option (5$). They also modified the E07 head prototype when a deeper fined head was suggested, E07 chamfered fins, etc.

It would not be that difficult to make an alternative external battery tube for the FW3A with it’s original design : same lengh, different profil (thickness reduction on both side at 90° angle with a little chamfer on top off it).
Some people are not using pocket clip, or only as an anti-roll feature. No need for the Nitecore big slope chamfer in this case.

There are many online stores offering various options to select before ordering, it’s not a big deal, and we do like options.

I don’t want to force anyone, but maybe someone from the BLF team could suggest this type of option for a future FW3A-raw-material-with-machining-marks…I would be thankful, but not upset if it never happened as it is not a matter of life and death, just aesthetic, but aesthetic does matter even for tools.

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Looks great, please add me to the list! Thanks

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Small Potatoes

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Please add me to the list.

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“What we hope for”, but without the hole in the end. Beer

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Didn’t want to hope for too much Big Smile

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Just to give an idea for a future FW3A, here is a praxis copper mechanical mod (vaping) with exaggerated machining marks (more a light spiral “knurling”) which are grippy.

Sorry for the patatoe quality.

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Dougiestyle wrote:

How long does R&D usually go into production of a EDC light?? I

I would say one year from idea to market is normal for a Chinese company to develop a lamp.
The Sofirn C01 was unusually fast.
When BLF is involved you can add a few months, because there is no design freeze. The community will suggest stuff till start of selling and even afterwards.

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joechina wrote:
For what is the front hole in the clip good?

I like to wrap a lanyard around light ant have to come out through the hole to go around my wrist.

Hole at the top, not the hole at the end of the clip.

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There could have been a design freeze, but somebody decided it needed paint on the clip and the easter bunny on the button. That wasn’t BLF.

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Tally-ho wrote:
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djozz wrote:
do not waste too much emotion on that

Agreed. Each person has their own reasons to buy or not buy … it’s generally best not to get too worked up about it. … it is, as someone recently said, small potatoes.

Maybe small patatoes but a few manufacturers understood that sometimes, listening small potatoes is good for business.

I did not say: Lumintop should not worry excessively about BLF.

The message was: We at BLF should not worry excessively about a particular flashlight.

Lumintop should care, because it is a business and we are its customers. But we should not let things like this bother us, because we are here for enjoyment, and being bothered defeats the point of being here.

If we come here for pleasure and find ourselves unhappy instead, that’s a sign that we should step away and do something else. People involved in the project may be kind of stuck here, but everyone else has the freedom to engage in a different activity, focus on other threads, or approach things in a different way which does not cause distress.

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zak.wilson wrote:
There could have been a design freeze, but somebody decided it needed paint on the clip and the easter bunny on the button. That wasn’t BLF.

I thought it was cleared up that the clip wasn’t painted, and the logo isn’t going to be on the group buy lights?

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