FW3A Troubleshooting / FAQ

I think the post above is not correct at all.
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Current Temp is this isnā€™t it??. If room temp is 19C & light is at room temp. Click 19 times. If room temp is 21C, click 21 times. Etc., etc., etcā€¦ā€¦

I thought Temp Limit started at 30C. To get 50C you click 20 times.

This \ā€¦ taken straight from the FW3A User Manual that came in the box:

Thermal configuration

Look at a thermometer to check the current room temperature. Let us assume it says 21 Celsius Turn the light off and wait for its temperature to settle to room temperature.

Go to TempCheck
When you are in TempCheck, then click 4 times to enter thermal config mode, and calibrate the sensor.

Thermal config mode has two settings:

1. Current temperature Calibration.

  • Click once per degree C to calibrate the sensor. For our example, the ambient temperature is 21 C = click 21 times.

2. Temperature limit.

  • This sets the maximum temperature the light can reach before it will start doing thermal regulation to keep itself from overheating. Click once per degree C above 30. For example, to set the limit to 50 C, click 20 times.

The default is 45 C (15 clicks).

Hint: If you donā€™t click,the lamp will leave the value unchanged.
The lowest value the user can set is 31 C, by clicking once.

Problems problems.

Why donā€™t people just set it properly?

Good question???

Weā€™ve all been around here long enough to know that.

A new light originating from BLF always has problems, that is because we try new stuff, and things go wrong trying to get chinese companies manufacturing new stuff. Usually after a few batches most of the flaws are ironed out.

You can jump into the first group buy run and expect flaws (I never can resist that), or you can wait for the improved version and risk having to pay more.

A lot of the above post is not correct information xevious. There is no ā€œ20C paddingā€ you mention. Not trying to argue but this wrong info may well confuse if anyone follows it.

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This is how it is done correctlyā€¦ taken straight from the FW3A User Manual that came in the box:

Thermal configuration

Look at a thermometer to check the current room temperature. Let us assume it says 21 Celsius Turn the light off and wait for its temperature to settle to room temperature.

Go to TempCheck
When you are in TempCheck, then click 4 times to enter thermal config mode, and calibrate the sensor.

Thermal config mode has two settings:

1. Current temperature Calibration.

  • Click once per degree C to calibrate the sensor. For our example, the ambient temperature is 21 C = click 21 times.

2. Temperature limit.

  • This sets the maximum temperature the light can reach before it will start doing thermal regulation to keep itself from overheating. Click once per degree C above 30. For example, to set the limit to 50 C, click 20 times.

The default is 45 C (15 clicks).

Hint: If you donā€™t click,the lamp will leave the value unchanged.
The lowest value the user can set is 31 C, by clicking once.

Mine does it to ,itā€™s probly a bug.

Hoping TK chimes in here on this and sets the record straight, please. Is the MANUAL correct or not?

The manual is correct.

If you DO NOT care if the ā€™room temperatureā€™ reads correctly you can do what ToyKeeper says in the quote below.

No worries. I struck out the content of my post. I didnā€™t mean to be an idiot, but what was throwing me off was having read a few comments scattered about, rather than circling back to the actual manual. I made a poor choice on terminology. It should be ā€œbase value.ā€ And thereā€™s 2 things: actual temperature representation and the number of clicks.
See, this threw me, from 1st post:
ā€œAt the first menu option, while the light flickers and waits for input, click to enter the current room temperature. This is typically about 20 to 25 C, meaning 20 to 25 clicks.ā€
Then I saw a post from TK saying only 1 click was needed and youā€™d have 20C set for current temp. No need to click 20 times to get 20C.

I know what you mean by ā€œpaddingā€ā€¦ that is where you are not correct.

For ambient temp calibration it starts at 0C. If room (ambient) temp is 17C, you must click 17 times for the temperature sensor to be properly calibrated. (1 click = 1C)

Max temp limit starts at 30C. If you want to have a Max Temp Limit of 48C, you do 18 clicks. (1 click = 1C)

You were not being an idiot, just temporarly confused. :slight_smile: We have been there before. :slight_smile:

Yeah, but I feel like I shouldnā€™t have been confusedā€¦
And maybe I am still not completely clear on this. Because from what youā€™re saying, if I enter current temp setting and click once, Iā€™ll have 1C set? Current temp just above freezing? Because after I did set that, the light was telling me 21Cā€¦ (I presume 1C above 20C because of LED temp just a little up from the flashing).

I understand. I donā€™t think you are the only one that misread what ToyKeeper wrote.

Read it againā€¦ slowly. :wink:

Well, that backfired.

Soā€¦ yeah. To be safe, click 20 times at the first option and 20 times at the second option. If youā€™re anywhere close to an average room temperature, that should give it a sane thermal config.

I was mostly just pointing out that, if you click the same number of times at both, it should end up with a temperature limit 30 C higher than your current room temperatureā€¦ whatever that is. And technically, that can be shortened to 1 click at each option, but only if you donā€™t care about having accurate values in the temperature check mode.

But it seems that was confusing, so itā€™d be best to enter accurate values instead.

can we just keep the confusion rolling? enuf already. STOP! Teacher seems to be the only one helping!

Yes and no.

It shouldnā€™t be possible for the light to overheat in muggle mode, because itā€™s limited to such low power. But people wanted it to be really safe, so they can let kids use it. So if it does detect a ā€œgetting kinda hotā€ condition, it doesnā€™t even try to regulate the outputā€¦ instead, it panics and drops to the lowest level.

This worked fine in testing, but it seems that some lights detect enough heat to trigger the panic response. It sounds like itā€™s probably sensing noise in the ADC readings instead of an actual high temperature though.

Do you think it should have the muggle thermal condition removed, so it ignores temperature? It shouldnā€™t be overheating in that mode at all, and it seems to mostly just cause problems.

Noā€¦ just forget everything you knew or thought you knew.

Read the instructions below that came word for word from the FW3A User Manual & follow them exactly.

This is how it is done correctlyā€¦ taken straight from the FW3A User Manual that came in the box:

Thermal configuration

Look at a thermometer to check the current room temperature. Let us assume it says 21 Celsius Turn the light off and wait for its temperature to settle to room temperature.

Go to TempCheck
When you are in TempCheck, then click 4 times to enter thermal config mode, and calibrate the sensor.

Thermal config mode has two settings:

1. Current temperature Calibration.

  • Click once per degree C to calibrate the sensor. For our example, the ambient temperature is 21 C = click 21 times.

2. Temperature limit.

  • This sets the maximum temperature the light can reach before it will start doing thermal regulation to keep itself from overheating. Click once per degree C above 30. For example, to set the limit to 50 C, click 20 times.

The default is 45 C (15 clicks).

Hint: If you donā€™t click,the lamp will leave the value unchanged.
The lowest value the user can set is 31 C, by clicking once.

Edit
Mine behaves normally now, I did take it apart & cleaned it & took the retaining ring out & put it back ( there was nothing to clean to be honest) , and I was also disappointed because it steps down almost straight away on turbo ,so I set it to 70* ,but it still stepped down straight away ,I then did it again & it still steps down quicker than I like but itā€™s better , but anyway Muggles behaves ok now.

I canā€™t get my light out of lockout, I tried 4 clicks and also tried 6 clicks. All it does is moonlight no matter whatā€¦ do I have a defective board?

Never mind, I reset it by removing the batteryā€¦ I thought loosen head was enough apparently not.