This question is for hank & Sharpie. It is an honestly asked question. I hope you will both man up and answer it honestly.
We are speaking of BangGood in this thread so I shall only ask the question about BangGood.
Are either of you paid shills for BangGood or any of their subsidiaries???
Does BangGood or any of their subsidiaries send you free merchandise???
‘martook’… With all due respect to you, let’s just stop at point one you made. 
Your point one IS NOT what we are talking about here. The problem here is the seller, NOT the buyer.
The specs to the light were not adhered to by the seller. That is what has caused the majority of the problems, and the identified potential problems.
This light should have worked correctly out of the box. In most every case it would have had the final specs been adhered to by the seller.
End of story…….
Who is “most of us”? I couldn’t give a crap less what you think of USA laws Sharpie. You seem to be of the persuasion that America should do as the rest of the world does. We would still be Brits if we had that mentality so to use your own words, “get over it”.
HOWEVER, this is not about US, China or any other country. You continue to fail to acknowledge that this is NOT related to cultural differences. Buying, selling and trading have been around for about as long as mankind. It is not some novel concept adopted by Americans. If the Chinese purchase a flashlight from an American vendor, I have a very difficult time believing that they are going to simply smile and nod in approval when their non-functioning flashlight doesn’t work and you tell them “Get over it. it is just a cultural thing.” Further, I once again ask the simple question; if this is strictly cultural, then please explain why these issues become perfectly clear to the vendor when a PayPal dispute is filed?
Sorry but I still can”t get my head round what you are saying ?
What has this supposed “culture clash” got to do with the agreed specs being ignored & hence causing nearly all the problems with this light & also turning it into a dangerous item ?
Did the seller/maker not want to “know” the specs he was supposed to adhere to ?
Did he not want to “engage” in making the light to the agreed specs ?
Did the maker/seller not “understand” the specs they had agreed to produce the light to ?
I really cannot understand what you are trying to convey ?
I am quite curious; where is this wonderful, worldly place you are from Sharpie? All that aside, I will once again state the obvious; there is no “worldly view” needed here because this is NOT about cultural differences. You simply continue to avoid the truth of the matter here, presumably because you lack the substance to continue debating your position. Hence, the reason you again avoided my very simple question: why are there no cultural differences in play when a PayPal dispute is filed?
I dealt with HK Equipment in my previously stated issue with the Ultratac light, and you once again ignored the implication. They SENT ME A NEW LIGHT without any difficulties. They are located in Hong Kong. Where were the cultural differences? There were none, because they knew the simple concept of their role as producer providing a product to a consumer for a said price. It is really that simple. Your attempts at complicating this are simply a waste of time.
I received the one unit I ordered, and glad I ordered only one and not the two I signed up for. Clearly, it's not a JAX Z1 host, as claimed in the OP. I have a JAX Z1 and compared them:
I don't see it mentioned in the OP, but might have been mentioned here earlier. It seems like a different manufacturer - probably sub-contracted out to build a copy-cat. I really didn't care much bout the spring and LED wire soldering problems - all easily fixable for me, but I probably can't get this Cometa to anywhere near the quality of the zoom operation of the Z1, and not happy about the incompatibility of parts and extension tubes. As a host, it's a true downgrade from the Z1. Might have to try thick grease on the zooming threads - maybe that would help some.
I never would have thought they would have made so many changes in the pill area - the deep set driver is a killer for the ground out problem of the battery, and the re-design on top for the blacked out LED retainer piece is radically different, and again causes issues. Funny because the pill itself is basically the same size and shape - very hefty too.
The tail springs are too soft and too deep set as well.
You know, Sharpie may have given us all a great idea. He used a couple of words here that I had to look up… “Caveat emptor”.
I had to look it up, because like ole’ Forrest Gump… “I’m not a smart man.”
Seems in good ole’ southern slang though, it means “buyer beware.” I have copied and pasted the word and meaning below for those that might want see it in all it’s glory.
In this case it was not possible before we each actually purchased it. The inspection was done through a surrogate, ‘Cyberescudo’; who then relayed the specs to us [the buyers who need beware]. ‘Cyberescudo’ also relayed the specs to, and made the deal with Banggood.
BangGood then deviated from the specs and terms of the deal and shipped out an unsafe light world wide.
So now that the ones of us that have them in hand, can actually inspect them.
For those that are not pleased with their light due to any of the numerous valid reasons already listed in this thread, I have a suggestion.
This COMETA project was done as a GB [Group Buy].
So now, anyone that is unhappy or feels cheated….why not just do a GPPC [Group PayPal Claim]. It would be somewhat like “registering” for a GB on the forum except you would “register” for the GPPC with PayPal. There are an abundant number of reasons PayPal would readily grant this claim.
No more sending multiple emails, no more sending multiple pictures of the same thing, no more beating your head against the proverbial Wall of BangGood. The GPPC would free you from all that.
Now again, “I am not a smart man”; same as ole’ Forrest Gump…. but I wonder what PayPal would have to say about 75 to 100 claims for the same product against the same vendor???
Think about it…………. 
ca·ve·at emp·tor
[ˌkavēˌät ˈem(p)ˌtôr]
NOUN
the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.
Ok thank you for that answer. I will hope hank will man up and answer for himself though.
“Why do I ask”, you say? Because that is exactly how it comes across in this situation with BangGood. You have made every excuse known to man why they seem to have done no wrong. I could go on and on, but there is no need to… it would accomplish nothing.
The second reason I ask is that I thought I remembered reading in some other thread where you were thankful for the several free ThorFire or something lights you had been sent…. but I don’t remember for sure what or where so until or unless I do that is a mute reason.
As far as your last sentence, it appears you might be losing your ever loving mind.
Did you get overheated on your bike ride earlier???..… :person_facepalming:
Saying what you said is like the pot calling the kettle black…. :person_facepalming: … Do you actually even realize that???
Plus if I were any more calm I’d be asleep…….
Please PM instead of openly negative to each other.
There is too much really a miss here I urge everybody who feels like saying the same thing for a third time to refrain from it, no matter how just and good it feels to write it please don’t!
A new issue is brought up, Tom concludes it is not a Jax Z1 host.
Please refrain from stating how bad and/or how logical this is, and let Cyberscudo answer the question how the Cometa compared to the Jax Z1 he/she owns, well Cyberscudo?
And let others who DO own both lights address this issue, please!
Wait, wait…… you mean to tell me it is not even the host that was promised? :person_facepalming:
Baaaahaaaaaaaaa… 
Where will it end??? … … …
Seriously, you just can’t make this stuff up……….
Certainly the Cometa is not as good as quality as the Z1 I have from a while back. Suppose it's possible they downgraded the Z1 quality since then, but all these differences seem to point to another manufacturer with an attempt to duplicate it. Maybe JAXMAN did this to themselves, who knows for sure.
Please dump what think need to be said here My COMETA is a POS - does not connect with tailcap spring - burned my finger [Hobby Ending - Enough is Enough] if you can refrain yourself and leave this topic for 24 hours EVERYBODY who does not have something NEW to say about solutions or does not have a NEW issue to report, please give the organisers a chance to come up with solutions and new people the chance to read up, PLEASE!
Weird. Can you discern a visible difference between the z1 and the Cometa threads? I was reading a few pages over at CPFItalia and a few people mentioned wonky threads and mismatched builds. Something about receiving a Jax Z1 labeled body or mislabeled head. It was kind of tough to read because Google translate doesn't do too great of a job.
Do you see a difference in the lenses/AR Coating?
My Cometa zoom threads were a fair bit loose. I cleaned the stock lube out and slathered on some Super Lube. Now they're a bit tighter than my Z1, which now my Z1 feels a little loose comparatively... I may have to do the same to it.
Interesting, I was trying to read a few thing over there yesterday also by Google Translate. It was tough, but I did read something [I think] about the 1st round of lights were the old style with different heads and the 2nd round should be new style other new heads.???
I’ll go back and try to find it again later tonight and try to be more clear.
The Miller, no disrespect to you implied or intended…. but this thread is far past the point of redemption for what you are hoping for.
Solutions have been few and far between.
The ’GPPC’ may very well be one of the best solution for many to take.
A COMETA Solution thread should be started and kept locked with only 1 or 2 people in the know allowed to post on it.
That is the only real solution my friend……….
I’ve got 2 of these on their way, don’t even want them now. Worst thing is that one of them was for a muggle mate.
I do not hope for redemption, I hope for a thread to be followed by all and it is us who make it a much too long and negative thread. Just wait there is no point in repeating things already said three tmes nor attack personally, it is your and others responsibility to think about greater good and let the organisers come with input and let new receivers catch up.
Feel free to start new thread for your mass claim idea, a fix thread, sure cool go ahead!
Since I have nothing more to add I will refrain from posting till I
A
find a solution not mentioned
B
find an issue not mentioned
C
receive word from organisers about a solution or denying a solution
And I urge all to do the same, if only from the point of civilisation, adulthood, good manners and good spirit so typical of BLF.
FIXUP NOTE: be careful if you put a “butterfly” spacer with square hole over the LED, there’s a known risk that it will rotate and rip the LED off the board especially when hot.
And the emitter does have a clear cover over the phosphor which can also be peeled off accidentally, if you happen to twist a spacer around that runs into it.
I don’t know of a butterfly spacer with the bigger round hole that could rotate without contacting the emitter.
ALTERNATIVE: the 19mm 3M stick-on insulators have a hole big enough to rotate around the LED if they come unstuck, and the outside diameter is big enough to cover the solder bumps. Those squish down comfortably when you tighten the black parabolic thing down, and stay stuck to the board so they don’t rotate easily.
Not centered yet in the picture:
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The Miller, start a new thread titled ….COMETA Solutions ….
Lock it.
Only let person with real answers post.
That is the only way any thread will ever be clean & clear.
LOL. Thank you Killforfood! I have had a fractured neck, fractured ribs, a hole punctured through my bottom lip, three concussions, a bleed on the brain and still have a steel plate and 6 screws in my forearm, but by the grace of God, the brain seems to be functioning at a relatively adequate level all things considered.