Appreciate the vote of confidence cabfrank. Maybe I will, maybe I wonāt; none of us are promised tomorrow.
But, I am here now. And depending on who you askedā¦. Iāll just bet yaā some of my points are āwell takenā presently.
Very well takenā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦
teacher, Iāve been avoiding this, but your arguments with ReManG could have died much earlier. The famous last word syndrome. We all have to watch that, in trying to make our point, we donāt end up leading the argument or turning a discussion into something more agitated. It should stand to reason for any educated person anywhere, once you start calling someone names and calling them out in public, itās all downhill from there.
Benchmade has a logo that says āHeld to a higher standard.ā Iāve always liked the thought of that, the very idea that perfection exists and is worthy of striving for. When you call yourself teacher, youāve given yourself a moniker that carries some burdensā¦ itās expected of you to be exemplary in behavior as we expect all of our teacherās to be. Under the microscope, as it were. So name calling and open forum arguing really make you look bad, especially with that name. Doesnāt help your case much that Gary is well known and widely liked around these parts.
Iām not meaning to single you out, per se, but this example is one we can all easily fall prey to. Itās the bane of social behavior, the need to prove oneself righteous and worthy.
Many these days would apologize up front for any unintended offense, I wonāt do that, as I am merely calling it like I see it. I think we can all agree, open forum arguments are completely worthless to any productive effort.
I know Iām long winded, and for that I do apologize, but Iāve always felt a complete explanation helps further a deeper understanding. That said, Iām here so much because I have a physical disability in the name of a Conversion Disorder. Stress or even cold causes me to have muscle spasms, very often excruciatingly intense ones. This has been going on for nearly 16 years. In being here, and working on lights, there is a focus and a certain avoidance of issues that is relaxing. I have found that there are many here suffering something, some with very severe issues. So it might pay to consider that a great many people with the time to be on any forum are going through a lot in their lives, suffice it to say theyāre not at their best all of the time. Once some of that is taken into consideration, it may be easier to be patient with what someone says, or how they said it, or that they even said it at all.
Keeping it civil is sometimes difficult to do, what is Civil in Bangladesh, as compared to Alabama, USA? Weāre a world wide family, it takes a bit more compassion than normal to keep it peaceful sometimes.
While for me, this quote is religious, it can apply to anyone anywhereā¦ āAs is the strength of thy conviction, so shall be thy salvation.ā Letās all have conviction in doing right, be strong in that commitment, and continue trying to make the world a brighter place, for the benefit of our children and their children.
I struggle with last word syndrome myself. There are members I hold in highest regard not because of what they say but what they donāt say or how they refrain from getting sucked in, you simply donāt ever see them participate in that kind of verbal sparring. I think this is the ideal that SB would like us to strive for. However, most(many?) of the rest of us want to be seen as ātelling it like it isā, sometimes hoping to correct a misunderstanding but often with just an edge of āIām right and Iām sure of itā. Itās when Iām most certain Iām right that Iām most likely to err in how I try to be convincing. It goes downhill from there when insults are added to somehow strengthen an arguement. This doesnāt work too well so if you really are trying to be convincing then avoiding that descent is a must. By now weāve reached the threshold where threads can get locked, warnings issued, and possibly bans as well, itās not very far away and is easy to reach. All it takes is thinking youāre right. Showing restraint is harder but is the goal.
Teacher, you have edited what Dale said because you did not like what he said, so that you could "agree" with some of it, & as per usual you must have the last word.
Practice as you preach.
Best Regards,
George
Edit:
Highlighted some more relevant words that teacher left out.
i vote for a āthats a trollpost!ā button besides the āmark as spamā
(an explanation should be mandatory to send)
if a certain number of users click that button the post gets hidden - only a āpost was marked as not useful - click if you want to readā message will appear then
(the information is not lost)
the post may not be edited then as long as the admin approves the post on request (when the author does request that)
so a user who gets marked can think about why he offends the other members
he can learn and change his style
if he does not want to change he might see he does not fit
on the other hand if one āangry guyā used that function a lot, but all the posts stay he can see (and so does the admin) that his opinion is a minority he might let it go for the greater good
You had to put your .02 in didnāt you keengeorge? A very appropriate thread for it too I might add.
I quoted what I agreed withā¦ so as to avoid additional commentā¦ā¦ simple as that.
Your actions do nothing more than stir the pot once again.
The truth is if either ReManG or I either one had displayed the institutional fortitude our āargumentā could have died much sooner than it did. Unfortunately neither one of us displayed that trait.
ReManG gave as good as he got. I gave as good as I got. We were both childishā¦ that is a two way street however.
So what is the point in your post keengeorge??? Please enlighten me and anyone else who might wish to know.
I do not take any offense to what ReManG says its just the way he is I guess he likes to say his words. Same goes with Dale but once again nothing offensive is said! Some times its hard on a forum with people from different places one thing we might accept they may not. Also the Australian sense of humor is very different! I call my best mate a D*ckhead and he does the same to me no offense is taken!
But Its one thing to say your words and another to personally attack some one. Or to Single people out for not agreeing with you!
This is all just growing pains really, when the forum was smaller it was easier to self moderate. Weāve grown a lot, quickly, and itās taking some time to settle down.
Nobody has to put up with any of it, honestly, any one of us is free to not open a thread, not address a statement we donāt like, or simply not log in at all.
By coming out in the āopenā with some things, it may very well help the forum family find a happy medium, thatās all.
One things for certain, all the bickering and drama is not relaxing, regardless of where itās coming from or who started it.