The Hunt for the Perfect LED Continues!

Hi All, first time poster long time reader.

The story goes like this:

My wife and I have been experimenting with LED lighting for about three years now and it has been a somewhat tiresome experience.

She’s an engineer and has been sold on the benefits of this new technology for a while. I’m what you might call an early adapter.

We’ve tried a myriad of domestic product including bulbs from Philips and it just hasn’t matched our expectations of halogen light output and temp.

A colleague of my wife has put us onto a Brisbane company who apparently have a Director who has come from a Chinese LED factory to start this company.

He “claims” this is the first genuine replacement in a GU10 and MR16 to replace the 50W halogen.

Anyways, we’ve purchased 10 x 5W MR16s from their site to put them to the test.

I will keep you all posted on the results & some pics when the bulbs are installed.

Mick

I’m very interested in this. For a while now I’ve been quite perturbed by the absence of locally available suitably bright LED lighting for the home, especially considering that there has been an array of efficient component LEDs on the market for quite some time. It’s long overdue.

Have you tried the Brightgreen DR700’s, mickasunshinecoast.
Still exy (can get them slightly under AU$50 now).
They are very good though. And Australian tech.

Keep us posted on your experiment.

Was eyeballing whales in your neighbourhood couple of weekends ago. They big!

Cainn - This has been our big issue.

Many suppliers seem to know very little about their products. Like any green energy band wagon I guess!

My wife spoke with them on their 1300 number - although she did not speak to the director, their staff seemed to be lighting geeks (like me) :slight_smile:

G’day mate. Aldi had LED globes this week. I got the last G10. Haven’t tried it yet but Hoping its ok.

Rexdog,

I have had a DR700 demoed to me. Impressive, but yes, a little costly and not a quick retrofit solutions.

I do like the story behind Bright Green though. Seems similar to Candelo Solutions - tech guys. Refreshing to see.

And yes - some big whales! Where were you based?

I saw some standard fit bulbs on the Aldi site, but they seemed suspiciously like standard CFL’s, especially given the graphic they are using for the incan comparison:

I have done a LOT of testing and work with LED lights for the home: My adventures in LED home lighting

The best MR16 bulbs , by far, are the Philips Endura 10 watt / 490 lumen ones. I get more light (actually measured) in the rooms than with the supposed 900 lumen/50 watt halogens. My house uses 42 of them. Two rooms are lit exclusively by them.

5W bulbs will really suck at socking out the lumens… believe me, I’ve tested lots and lots of them. The best ones that I tested were less than 200 real (not Chinese) lumens. Most were in the 135-150 lumen area.

Hi Texas Pyro,

They are claiming the light output is 420lm. An efficacy of 84.

We will be testing this ourselves, so time will tell!

Hopefully they arrive tomorrow.

I’ve put 5 in the kitchen mickasunshinecoast.
The next step of my plan was to swap out the 4 in the lounge - they have a dimmer.

Any chance you could pm the web address or throw up a link

Family day trip from Brissy to Mooloolaba. Was touristy but fun.
Cheers

Mooloolaba is lovely.

www.candelo.com.au. The product is the iinno 5W MR16 - http://www.shop.candelo.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_26&product_id=60

Once they arrive I will put some photos and lux level tests up for you. (Fingers crossed)

Mick,

Welcome to the addiction, mickasunshinecoast!

Has anyone tried this one. It seems to be not available in Europe atm.
CRI=92!, 10W, 940 lm.

Just ordered last years model from Germany (saved 40%). This one has CRI=80, 12W and 806lm but should still be a top lamp.

Yes, those are very nice bulbs. I have very few globe type bulbs in my house (almost all are downlights). I used a couple of the Philips globe bulbs like the second one that you listed (I’ve seen them for $15). I played with one of the E-prize bulbs that a friend bought and was quite impressed.

Sorry to interrupt but:
Is that newer L-Prize available in: E27 and for 230V with intl shipping available? :slight_smile:

I would like to know that too. Btw I found a video with the new model:
The new L-Prize lamp

And this one with the one I have ordered (price 30 EURO):
Last year model

Cree also has a version (don’t know if it’s available):
Cree lamp

Interesting, because they all use what they call “remote phosphor”. I think there could be a phosphor layer in the outer shell, which lights up when hit by light from bluish LED’s (but I could be wrong).

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Yeah, that's what remote phosphor is. There is a piece of plastic with phosphor in it and blue LEDs.

The idea behind remote phosphor LEDs is that it gets the phosphor away from the heat of the LED and makes it last longer.

The big commercial drawback is that people see the yellow phosphor and think that they are a yellow bug lamp. Philips has a label on their package that says it is a white lamp, but since most people can’t be bothered to (or don’t know how to) read, the lamps don’t sell.

I found an interesting tear-down of the L-Prize lamp.
Not a trivial driver, and what a big bunch of components (that could fail). Some of them are bound to die before the LED’s are worn out - but maybe not in my lifetime :wink:

Hello fellow BLF’ers!

Our lights have arrived and we are very happy.

Roughly the same size physically as the 50W halogen. We replaced 6 in the kitchen and they give us plenty of light.

It makes as many lumens (420lm) as the philips 10W MR16 at half the power!!

Not sure what we would do if we required dimming though. Perhaps GU10.

A little on the expensive side at $33.00, but happy to pay that for the light output.

Mick