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Review: Eagtac EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2 review

 

Tank007 ES12

kresil's Overall Rating: ★★★

 

Summary:

Battery:1x AAA/10440
Switch:twisty
Modes:3 w/ mode memory (—Med—Lo—Hi—)
LED Type:XP-E R3
Lens:glass
Tailstands:yes
Price Paid:25$
From:WB
Date Ordered:April 2013

 

Pros:

  • measured 90+ Fenix lumens output, bright spill, tight bright hotspot
  • good regulation with constant current driver
  • very good looks, superior fit and finish, feels very expensive

Cons:

  • low frequency PWM (as common with all Tank007 models)
  • heavy
  • LED/driver not improved over 2013 E09

 

Features / Value: ★★★☆☆

The ES12 tries to build on the, for the Tank007 Co., highly successful E09, a model which was released to market in autumn/fall 2011 and continues to be produced in mass quantities in 2013 and probably more years to come. Attentive buyers could notice the gradual design improvements in the E09 and from 2012 on the design had reached a mature final state. I still like to keep my 2011 model in order to make myself aware of the refined 2012 design. I used to use the E09 as my favorite EDC keychain light and it is still my favorite one. However, after seeing how the early E09 evolved into an even more likable refined E09, i stopped carrying it on my keychain: it had simply become too nice of a cute little product.

Nowadays i exclusively carry the Ti or the scratch-resistant Titanium ITP A3 because I don't mind if they get some rough treatment between the keys. I had leviewed the E10 too and i do appreciate some features of it, such as the SS switch (modded by me to be less jammy) and the hosting of 47mm+ long Protected 10440's, but it never became a crowd favorite and i certainly like my E09's (i am keeping 3 copies for my own personal enjoyment: 2011 black, 2013 black, 2013 gungray) much more than the tankish design of the E10.

 

Design / Build Quality: ★★★★★

If you know the E09's performance, and most readers do, then you also know ES12's performance. The ES12 uses the same reflector, LED and driver as the 2013 E09, so performance, runtime, brightness, beam pattern, tint, etc etc has to be the same, and it is.

On my sample, the reflector is clean as always and the LED is perfectly centered. Beam looks good, just never expect an artifacts-free round hotspot such as the 65$ expensive LD01's. There are minimal differences in the machining or dimensions, for example the original E09 o-ring is too thin on the ES12, so a bigger o-ring is supplied, with same dimensions as the LD01 o-ring, but on the whole not worth babbling about.

 

Battery Life: ★★★☆☆

People who are a little interested in the ES12 are most likely previous E09 owners, similar to me. Rightly so. Both torches enthuse the buyer for the great feeling, looks and top brightness. With a mininum of 1.6A current draw from an Eneloop, the Tank007 remains one of the brightest in the Eneloop AAA class, see also the technical details and Fenix lumens measurements by UPz. Lemme copy paste data from my comparison review:

Perdon con permiso i am pasting the Fenix lumens measurements (no silly ceiling bounce!) from the UPz sphere, with typical current measurements on a fully charged cell:

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  • 10440 Lo, 21mA, 3.1lm — 15h
  • 10440 Med, 0.321A, 51.7lm — 67min
  • 10440 Hi, 1.062A, 154.9lm — 22min
  • Eneloop Lo, 51mA, 1.8lm — 17h
  • Eneloop Med, 0.5A, 29.5lm — 95min
  • Eneloop Hi, 1.6A, 92.2lm — 33min

 

Light Output: ★★★★★

The ~92 Fenix lumens on Eneloop are impressive and could in future only be beaten by newer LED's (XP-E2, XP-G2, etc), the ~155 Fenix lumens on Li-ion are not too impressive since stuff like Brontä, Baldä or XXXFire do reach 200 Fenix lumens. 33min on Hi-mode, is that considered short? It is, because your Eneloop AAA s*ck sorry no offense. I had done repeated runtime tests with rather new and 1.54V overcharged Eneloops, my C9000 had measured capacities of up to 884mAh wtf, so the above numbers represent the absolute top runtimes you could ever possibly measure in your own continuous runtime tests.

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In a more typical testing environment, your charged Eneloop will have 1.46xxV and an average capacity of say 784mAh. Doing a runtime test with such a cell, you'd end up with a runtime of maybe ~27min on Hi and ~85min on Med; and indeed, that's what UPz monitored in his singular test Hi/Med runs.

 

Summary: ★★★★★

In my collection of 1xAAA lights and that includes premium stuff such as Fenix LD01, Lumintop Worm SS, ITP A3 EOS Upgraded Titanium, and Klarus MiX6, and of course several copies of the inexpensive highly lovable E09's plus the well-known Ti, this Tank007 ES12 has advanced to the top ranking of my best loved 1xAAA flashlights. I always liked the E09 and now i am liking the ES12 even more. Both of them, i won't use them for keychain duty anymore. While the popular Sipik SK68 1xAA flashlight is a cheap well-working product, i would never consider it as something nice, likable or desirable. The Tank007, probably the cheapest power LED 1xAAA flashlight on the market, on the other hand is something very nice, cute yet powerful, an instant crowd pleaser, and I surely enjoy cherishing it. It makes me wonder, how could an inexpensive SS mini torch feel so expensive? Is it the saturated yet smooth twisting of the head, the SS finish similar to Parker pens, the weight, or the esthetic design? Well, come in and find out!

 ( disclaimer: i am not serious with calling this a review. it's for proving a point, so stay tuned for a real kreisl work! )

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Edited by: kreisler on 08/24/2013 - 05:01
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Updated on 16-01-2013
Thrunite can accept the best offer now. :bigsmile: I guss it that they will launch newly lights soon. I will follow their ebay store recently.

Saber 1A:
Best offer
eBay US/UK http://www.ebay.com/itm/330851531803 12sold
eBay Germany: http://www.ebay.de/itm/330851642373 8sold
eBay Australia: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330852907443 1sold

Saber 1A +Ti2:
Best offer
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230910981449

Archer 1A:
Best offer
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330842581948 3sold
eBay Australia: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330854257297 1sold
eBay German: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330842586426 0sold

Auction:
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330856212900 11bid USD40 now.

Archer 1A+Ti2
Best Offer
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330849001768 4 people offer

Archer 2A:
Best Offer
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330842583983
eBay German: http://www.ebay.de/itm/330842588760

Auction:
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230913340432 Nobody bid now

Archer 2A+Ti2:
Best Offer
eBay US/UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330849708106

Archer 1C:
Best Offer
eBay German: http://www.ebay.de/itm/330851160333
eBay UK/USA: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330850271947

Auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330858594564 2people bid now, it will finished Jan 19, 2013 19:19:08 PST

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Yes,you make a wrong title.
Just now I hear from thrunite official ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/Thrunite-Flashlight-Torch/ that they will start to sale saber 1A on 1th Jan.,2013.

Quote:
- Recently We will launch NEWLY Light Saber series 1A,1C , ThruNite battery and ThruNite battery charger sets which are compatible for our ThruNite flashlights.Any interest,Please follow our eBay store.

- On 1st Jan.,2013 we will launch newly flashlights we will call it as Saber 1A. Saber 1C.

- On 28th Dec.,2012 Our newly light Archer 1C will be for sale at our eBay store.

- On 7th Dec.,2012 we have launched newly flashlights.we named them as Ti2,Archer 1A,2A,2C Flashlight.

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Thanks Kreisler, If the Saber 1A is like the Ti2,but AA,then I am buying. Hope they make them in their special orange/gold lotto color too. Smile

Edit; now that I figured what light the T10 is, so I have to wait a bit longer for a better AA EDC.

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That Saber 1A looks awesome. If only they put the clip on the tail cap instead of the body. Don’t any of the manufacturers ever use their clips? Machine slots in both head and tail cap so clip can attach to either end, user’s preference. These clips that attach to the middle of the light are terrible. 178 lumens on 1.5V is nice, but I’m glad to see 14500 support also.

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Archer?  I don't see no stinkin' Archer!

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I don’t see specs that 14500 is supported.

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I have three T10 lights I had at a good discount and I love the light it gives in a small package. I also ordered a new TI2 after some good experience with my TI’s. I have two Neutron 2A and a 1C and Archer series don’t make much sense after these but this Saber line looks like a good improvement over the XPG led. T20 original wouldn’t accept a lithium rechargeable but this Saber seems to do. I’ll get the one with CR123 this time I guess. Maybe I’ll make some Nichia T10s out of mines and get a Saber 1A too.

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Archer 1C now available on eBay only as “Buy it Now” – no auctions, no “Best Offer”. $49 take it or leave it. Maybe they will start auction later.

Me? I’ll wait until my TN10 and TN11 are replaced by Thrunite (both returned today).

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Must be the Saber because I don’t see 14500 is supported for the Archer? I’m confused too. Where are the specs for the Saber that 14500 is supported? Thanks.

kreisler wrote:

arn357 wrote:
I don’t see specs that 14500 is supported.

Are you talking or Archer of Saber?

I am confused.. Wink

Archer has “Working voltage:0.9v to 4.2v.“, see TN webpage

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Everybody should know by now that Kreisler is a split personality,so he writes about one light in the headlines and another in the thread. Just to make a mess of it all. Silly

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I’m only asking about the 14500 format because I’m looking for a nice AA/14500 light, Xeno EO3 U2 or T6 looks like the ticket.

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Woody wrote:
Archer 1C now available on eBay only as "Buy it Now" - no auctions, no "Best Offer". $49 take it or leave it. Maybe they will start auction later. Me? I'll wait until my TN10 and TN11 are replaced by Thrunite (both returned today).

Just wait a little while and TN will have a deal on the new lights! Wink

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I know I missed adding the Xeno to my cart. I read the review on the E03 V3, the U2 and T6 version has the highest 460lm. E03 is like $28 at HKE.

kreisler wrote:

arn357 wrote:
nice AA/14500 light, Xeno EO3 U2 or T6 looks like the ticket.

We all have Xeno eo3 xml. In early 2011 it was the very first afaik 1xAA light with XML. A well-constructed and well-built light which could be had for 14$ at Wallbuys Crazy Hour Sale last week. On Eneloop it is as bright as my Tank007 keychain light Silly

Stuff like Quark, Thrunite, Eagletac, Zebralite is upper division of brightness, runtimes and efficiency. Xeno has old inefficient driver the last time i checked 0:) ( i posted a xeno e03 T6 review somewhere on dis forum 1.5yrs ago )

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I guess the XP-G2 would not support the 14500? Would the led burn out if the 14500 battery is used?

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agent80 wrote:
I guess the XP-G2 would not support the 14500? Would the led burn out if the 14500 battery is used?

The working voltage is max 4.2v, so 14500’s are supported. Nothing to to with the LED – it’s the driver that would burn out if it wasn’t supported.

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Good job Kreisler. It’s a tempting flashlight.
Do you think $ 49 is a fair price? How much do you think it should cost?

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My understanding from reading another post was that the XP-G2 supports a maximum of 1.5v vs the XM-L which can do the 14500 without being overdriven.

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I know its cool white but does it have any blue in the spill?

And how do you find the tail clicky? I have few that make a quality light feel cheep, like “ting ting ting” when clicking them.

Also is there any beamshots coming?

Thanks for the review.

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I got Archer 1A from their Amazon stores, powerful EDC flashlight, enjoy it Love !!!Also a factory to end user marketplace, I Have purchased their Archer 1A for 49USD
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AMCLUO6

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$39 offer accepted. Expect delivery next week.

I find it hard to believe that I purchased yet another Thrunite.

I already have the TN31, t21, t20, T10, Ti blue, and Ti Gold.

The T10 is one of my favorite lights, but it is not meant to be overpowered by a 14500 li-on

whew:) I knew I could come to grips with this impulse buy!

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How long does the Archer run on a 14500 on high mode? Would it be running at 400 lumens?

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I started loving Thrunite after I bought 4 of their lights in an offer package – TN30, TN12, T10 and T11s. Considering my limited flashlight experiences, imho, I found them to be great quality lights, ymmv. Even with all the frequent issues showing up in the BLF forum, I think thrunite sell fantastic lights at reasonable prices. In other words you get value for well made, durable lights with a brand name. Can you say that of Jetbeam, Olight, Zebralight, etc. with respect to prices.
And Thrunite do remedy and make good on these issues if you give them enough time. At least that is my experience. They replace my TN30 and TN12 for me after I notify their customer service about random issues of powering up.
They surprise me with their fast shipping. I took possession of my lights in 5 days, weekend inclusive – from China to Singapore.

In the beginning I didn’t think much about Thrunite, as I didn’t know much about their products. I actually was considering to buy Jetbeam RRT3, but its about $300 odd.
I was soaking up all the reviews and opinions of BLF forumers, on lights and I was still hovering on the threshold without plunging in.

My first order on the international website was the DRY, as I was impressed with the pics of some posters as it really lit up the night with a big flood beam. It was impressive and it was cheap if you compare it with the competition. Of course there is the king, but I rule it out because of pwm.

Back to Thrunite lights and here is why I like them:
T10 – only 17g without battery. It is my edc and my backup. In other words, should my other lights run out during usage, T10 is there. It is so light, I really forget that it is there in my pocket. I use it frequently on mini errands like checking out the ground under my barefeet. It is not the brightest – but enough to get things done – 115 lumens. It looks brighter than SK68 on ceiling bounce. Also nice form factor.

One of my major consideration is the weight of a flashlight. Everytime I look at a torchlight, without fail, I will definitely check out its weight and then compare it with the thrunite models.

TN12 – its strength is it has 205m throw, adequate light and its weight – 66g without battery. Puts out enough light for daily functional use. This is my edc. This is why I like it so much. Puts out 700 lumens without compromising on weight and throw. And hardly any heat issues.

TN11s – It has 355m throw and 830 lumens. Its about there considering it weighs about 169g. Pocketable but not my ideal weight.

So I have 3 functional enough lights for most of my needs.

And then the cream – TN30. It really is very bright about 2600 lumens approx. after stepdown. Has magnetic control and a firefly mode. Has a nice form factor. Throws 370m but not adequate enough against the big boys.
And is currently about $169. Not too much to pay for such a fantastic light. And should TN30 throws like TK75, I’d definitely buy another one.

Thrunite does bring a good deal to the table. As it stand, Thrunite is my No. 1 brand. As Kreisler said, it is always about price, all things being equal. I cannot agree more.

Will I acquire more lights – seems unlikely but I am not closing the door just yet.
Of course something that outperform and out thow the TN30 would be worth looking at.
Also the Sabre would be a nice addition to the T10, as it is brighter.

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Nice review, Is it the exact same body at the Neutron 1A ? For the archer or did they improve upon it?

I’m glad I’m not the only flashlight collector out there, I was beginning to think I was strange.
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Ok, nice observation on it. Can you tell me if you loosen the head one full rotation, does it have a soft wobble to it? The neutron 1a did, not that you need to loosen it that far to get firefly mode in real world use.

I’m glad I’m not the only flashlight collector out there, I was beginning to think I was strange.
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From the table it would appear that the D25A performs terribly on a 14500.

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Oh so it’s no longer like Quarks, that’s actually a + in my books. I like to have different manufacturers to have different UI’s so I have a better chance to find what I like

I’m glad I’m not the only flashlight collector out there, I was beginning to think I was strange.
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ZT wrote:
T10 – only 17g without battery. It is my edc and my backup. It is so light, I really forget that it is there in my pocket.

I have the T10 and use it with L91 batteries, I don’t have a scale but they fell about half the weight at a guess of a NiMh and 1.7v make them a bit brighter.

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I’ve Archer 1C light with nice discounts. Thanks for update.

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I have a T10 and a Neutron 1A. Now I want to try a Thrunite XP-G2, but it is a big question; buy the Saber 1a or buy the Archer 1A?. Is a difficult decision Tired . I will continue reading your data.

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Buy both and be happy :bigsmile:

Nice review, kreishill Beer Wink

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