I get some WF-501B CREE R2 250Lumens LED Flashlight

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I get some WF-501B CREE R2 250Lumens LED Flashlight

I get some WF-501B CREE R2 250Lumens LED Flashlight with Pressure Pad Switch and Universal Gun Mount, at the

price of $15.,what do you think of the price? cheap or expensive?

 

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Not Cheap , not expensive , but a good buy at that price ... 

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that is fine and thanks for your reply.

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EDIT;>> this company owes me ...it owes thousands of people ...

Please feel free to P.M. me about the mix up we had before christmas ...I'd love to settle that .

You probably only owe me about 40$ give or take

lets just get that cleared up right away ..what do you say ..!! Smile

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I own several similar hoists (Solarforce, Skyray), and I just ordered some drop-ins. Somhow I don't like the design of the 501 (a bit cheesy). Also, I don't have a gun that I could attach it on. The price seems to be ok though.

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Update:

I contacted yoki2011 through MSN.

I agreed to post a normal objective review on their site (DD) in exchange for a free 501B R2 based flashlight with weapon mount and pressure switch. That i can do easily. There was no requests for sweet talk about the product so i agreed. would have declined otherwise for keeping my personal integrity where it is.

If anyone that wishes or need one and does want to make a review for them on their site.... better contact him/her on MSN.

A small "price" to pay for a R2 dropin with pressure switch and decent weapon mount (even if you don't like the 501B much...)

I guess the offer is limited.

The MSN contact (Microsoft live messenger is what they call it now, alternatively you can go with aMSN non bloated alternative): yoki20112@hotmail.com

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I really think the offer is made with good faith so i'm not responsible of any mishappenings. So far i was unable to see anything wrong. Still being cautious since rarely you get something for free (well, for not much effort) just like that.

Personally i think the bundle is quite ok, if only the host would be anything else rather than 501B which is not really my host of choice. A 502B would be a way better deal considering the price difference would be minimal. But for a normally driven R2 even the oldie 501B would do well.

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I'm glad you took advantage of the offer and look forward to the review. I didn't really want another 501B or R2 drop-in, but I think it could be a good light for someone just getting started if the price isn't too bad. Or if you want something that throws well.

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There was one of our users wanting a red weapon light. I would advise him to took advantage and find a red lens/filter along.

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I agree with old4570. Probably not the best price but surely not the worst. Maybe with battey and charger would be more interesting deal.

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still hate the 501 .. but if it's free than I'd take it ..As far as a free light for a review ,that's Mr. Administrators call , it's his forum . I'd ask him before i posted a review on Blf .That's only fair .

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Boaz wrote:

still hate the 501 .. but if it's free than I'd take it ..As far as a free light for a review ,that's Mr. Administrators call , it's his forum . I'd ask him before i posted a review on Blf .That's only fair .

As long as you keep it objective and informative who cares where does it come from?... but that's beside the point... the review must be on DD website anyway. So grab yours, use the host for target practice keep the guts. Smile

501B are great for UV.

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I was surprised that I was asked via pm also but I respecfully declined because there are a lot more qualified members here that would do a very, very good job and be honest about it.
 
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yoki2011 03/20/2011 - 17:32

Hello,this is yoki from www.dinodirect.com which is a big online martket. I am authorized to send some UltraFire WF-501B CREE R2 250Lumens LED Flashlights to one who need them free of charge, in condition that you may write a short review for this product in our site to help more customers understand this product and get some guidance. Are you interested in this deal? You can contact me via msn yoki20112@hotmail.com, then we can talk online for details. Thanks in advance and wait for your reply.

Miss Yoki

You 03/20/2011 - 18:01

Aloha Miss Yoki!

I'm sorry but I can't accept your offer. I am not qualified to do any flashlight reviews but there are several members here that are more qualified than I. Just look at the reviews section and you'll see which members I'm talking about. They are very knowledgeable and experienced with flashlights and will do a very detailed and honest review of any flashlights your company sells.

Good luck.

yoki2011 03/20/2011 - 19:59

thanks very much for your prompt reply, but you should only need to write a short review about this product you received. Anyway if you like you can send my messages to your friends, maybe some of them are interested in this deal, and give my contact yoki20112@hotmail.com to them. thanks very much.

yoki

 

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fishinfool, I got the same pm from her and I'll be declining the offer as well. I will defer to the more knowledgeable people on the forum too.

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I believe all who want one such kit partecipate as all they want is to make reviews on their site. It's not about the level of knowledge. I will do a review here but that's my call and was not requested. Strange...

If that will help their sales i do not know. I don't mind a r2 dropin and a pressure switch along with a decent universal weapon mount. The mount would make a nice gift to my fellow hunters.

 

I had a chat with Yoki earlier on today. They want to do some advertising everywhere possible (what a surprise). I forwarded Yoki to our admin to give them an idea what is budget sellers spot all about (and to reduce eventual unnecesary spam). In the past DD was critcized harshly about their infamous discount practice around the "classic" new year season. Le't see if they might improve. Having more options is always welcome. Personally i never bothered to check DD page... I find everything i need at our usual suspects like MF, KD even TinyDeal lately...

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I talked to yoki today and was willing to do a review on their site for the light..no problem..unfortunately the "review" has turned into posting messages on this forum that are spam..sucks cus I would have liked the free light for the review..I have a 501B and it's an alright host for the cost..I keep it in my workshop cus I really don't care about it getting banged around..would have liked another for the car os something..I will never post a spam message for something though..oh well..

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I got asked that too but instead pointed Yoki to use the sellers spot with ease and with heavy moderation, preferably contacting our admin beforehand. If you got your offer fro review declined because you did not want to spam BLF that leaves a bitter taste about the true interest of the DD proposal. Frankly speaking i'm not even surprised. I would advise all who agreed/or wish to do the review on DD still do it, but decline any sapmming proposal.

I will do the review if i get the merchadise on DD. Deciding if i will do a review on BLF or not. Depends on current events. However the sample has not shipped yet so i'm a bit suspicious about the genuinity of the offer. Time will tell.

For all who wanted to took the opportunity i would strongly suggest to keep the terms of the original proposal or simply deny the eventual "wannabe spammer" job.

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I too was contacted by Miss Yoki and every "review" on this board became immediately suspect.  I write for a living and it just would not do to send my credibility down the river for a $24 flashlight.  Upon getting "her" request, I imagined posting some blurb in the comments section below a listed item on their site.  I don't even have a problem selectively talking about a torch here but I would do it in some form of, as described in my reply below.  I sent this e-mail exchange to the admin here before seeing this thread and finding out I was not the only one contacted.

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Any review I post, whether on the forum or on your site (or anywhere else) will be my honest opinion of the item I review, based on my personal experience and subjective assessment. If I like the flashlight and/or any feature thereof, I will say so. If I do not like it I will say that, justifying my analysis. Either way, it will be compelling and it will be read and, be read by a lot of people.

I write what I feel, what I believe - no one tells me what to write, what to feel or what to believe. If you are still interested, understanding my terms are not negotiable, I will be glad to review any flashlight you wish to send me. Then . . . after I write the review, so that my credibility and impartiality remain intact, I will give the flashlight away to a lucky forum member. That way, nobody can accuse me of writing what somebody else wants me to say just so I can get a $24 flashlight.

Still interested?
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From: greenyoki
To: tfblackmon@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:45 AM
Subject: RE: flashlight review

Hello Foy,

Thanks very much for your reply. If i want you to help me post an exclusive deal info for me in the forum and for a reward you will get this free UltraFire WF-501B CREE R2 250Lumens LED Flashlight from our company, would you still interest in this deal? of course, i will tell you the product information you may post on the forum.

This is the flashlight we will send you free: http://www.dinodirect.com/ultrafire-wf-501b-cree-r2-250lumens-led-flashl...

Plese let me know what you think and thanks.

regards

Yoki

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From: tfblackmon@cox.net
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Subject: flashlight review
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:15:17 -0700

Miss Yoki,

Yes, I would be interested in doing some reviews for you. My day job is writing on-line ads/reviews, I do the flashlight thing when I'm at home. The WF-501B sounds awesome, would love to see what it could do. Let me know if you need my address. (don't want to give it out until I know this is legit)

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Perfectly played. Let us know how it ends. Probably our admin would then update the budget dealers section accordingly.

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When I said Free  I meant  free as in everything else makes the host no longer matter what it is .. therefore it's free .

if the drop in and the mount and the remote switch are being sold for very very cheap than no matter the host it's basicly free ..that's all I meant .

As far as advertising or lifting a finger for Dino direct .. yes I' will gladly lift a finger their direction ..My middle one ..they owe me  3 lights anyway .. give me those first and I'll stop giving you the finger ..give me my 3 email responses you didn't  and send me something other than 3 expired 8$  /10 $ off coupons ..Oh yeah An appology for disgustingly dirty tricks / changing prices while people are buying things , lying cheating and stealing ..huh   yeah sure I'll forgive a  Spambot  who is spaming this site right here right now ..Sure where do I sign up and what line to I stand in to get on the stupid train .

hey Budgeteer thank goodness you said DD and it didn't register or i might get on a soap box .

Anyone who wants to buy from dirtball scumbags like Dino D...is welcome to ..like my great great grandfather used to say .."There's a sucker born every minute "

Sorry Yuki ...Your company is a bunch of lying thieves and I'm being nice ..No one annswered my emails ,No one cared that items were used and damaged ,the descriptions were wrong , no one cared that they shipped the wrong items , no one cared that it took 48 days to get here and I couldn't / or didn't hit you with a paypal dispute /claim ..i was treating you  with respect and trust and "YOU bent me over "...Send me 3 lights ,send me the money you owe me , send me an appology , make a wriiten appology to the entire flashlight community .... hell I have no idea how you have the guts to show up on ANY forum .. i'm sure it's not you ..You're probably a lovely person , but if you turn around and look at the people that own and run and manage that company ... they are trash ..dispicable trash.. do yourself a favor ..walk out the door before they screw you like they did 1000 other people ...

3 quick questions 

why did you lie ,cheat ,steal and screw  over 1000 people on thanksgiving ?

where are my lights?? ... and .....where's my money ?

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LOL Boaz!

"As far as advertising or lifting a finger for Dino direct .. yes I' will gladly lift a finger their direction ..My middle one .."

Your dedication and the non forgiving direct approach wrapped with a bit of pepper when someone pisses you off has to be considered a work of art. Very to the point and very consistently.

 

"hey Budgeteer thank goodness you said DD and it didn't register or i might get on a soap box"

Never intended to hide it. Why would i? Perhaps the most usefull info in the whole post. As for the soap box it might be nice tho with stamped on it: Become an iDinor! Wink

 

I have no experience wih DD yet. I will post if they were true to their words. Still weird that i was the only one who took the offer without much fuss or have to promise to spam a forum. If it were CPF i migh... naaahh even CPF don't deserve that.

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Anybody posting a "review" under those conditions can never be taken seriously again.  If you come on here, pretending that you made a flashlight purchase decision of your own accord, then typing what the seller tells you to say as if it was really your opinion?  If anybody is considering this, they need (and probably will get) a lesson in journalism ethics 101 and remedial honesty for dumbasses.

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Okay, it seems there is a thing here called a "sponsored review."  I suppose that may be a different thing if it is clearly identified as such.  Still; I don't think my old-school-curmudeon english professor would like it.  Too bad because I really would like a free flashlight.

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That's why I didn't even answer the PM. I'm sorry yoki, it seems you picked a bad job.

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I didn't mean to say you should or shouldn't do anything  with regards to reviews or free lights ..I almost got on that soapbox when the discussion for dx was going around earlier this week . I fully expect people to do a myriad of things I may or may not do or like ,most not needing me to lecture them .I just noticed in your post DD and suddenly realized it wasn't dungeons and dragons .  DD  bears a bullseye on it's back , and untill I get a refund or new lights  and an appology I'm going to go  off on them like a spider monkey ..Unless i am calmly asked to step back from the ledge by Our fearless leader  Mr. Administrator himself. 

 I sincerly hope they get their act together and address my issues .I eagerly await their response.

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I got the same message, I did not respond, it just sounded like a window to spam and decieve people and this forum. My intuition seems to have been correct!

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At work i don't mind to have some chit chat with Yoki. As an individual i find Yoki quite nice for chit chat. I pointed out that redeeming DD in BLF eyes might take a while but solving past issues might be the best they can do. Let's see how they play their cards.

I believe everyone deserves a second chance. I really do not wish to be involved more that i managed so far. I'm not going to risk losing my credibility over such nonsense. Perhaps i'm being too friendly but so far my tendency toward being nice to people i don't know made more good things than bad. Still believe that i can safely say when it is too much. I will keep my word to Yoki for the DD review and consider it for BLF and actually i don't think there is anything wrong with it at all. IF i get junk, it will be noted. IF not the review will be reasonable and as far as i can make it objective. Said that i hope BLF did not get the idea that i can be sold that cheaply. For a few million € i would probably don't mind to change hobby but a free flashlight can hardly make my eyebrow move. Since i learned from BLF all i know about flashlights i feel the need to help the comunity as best as i can. Being objective to the possible extent is also my priority.

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I've just talk with yoki through msn. I would try to understand what he/she really need. Maybe also for a misunderstanding i think he/she need a review, so i ask at least to have ALL technical specification, but the reality is the real need is to post a DD deal on the forum. As i said to yoki, this is his/her job not mine. I also said to feel free to contact me again if he/she need a real review.

Ok, maybe the way he/she use to obtain visibility is not 100% correct but i think it's his/her job and he/she try everything to do it. However, if admin and forum rules allows it, anyone can decide freely to accept or not.

I decided to refuse because i usually hate spam and advertising on a forum and if i need an R2 i can still buy it myself.

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Anybody posting a "review" under those conditions can never be taken seriously again. 

Selfbuilt, light-reviews, and many others write excellent reviews and don't pay a dime for any of their lights (lucky bastards). I have no problem if someone gets a free light and writes a review of it as long as they mention it was free. It is pretty easy to tell a sales pitch from a review. Reviews at epinions always sound like sales pitches (people are being paid a commission on what people buy via the review) vs. Amazon reviews which tend to be buyers. But even some Amazon reviews are glaring astroturf.

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Think just about everyone got the PM about a free 501. The 501 may just be the worst P60 body ever built. Would work OK with incandescent bulbs.

Given that I already have a 501 body, the dropin would be the only item of interest. And I have plenty of generic R2 dropins already and exactly no interest in getting any more.

It is dubious whether I have anything good to say about that body so nobody sending me one at any price is going to be happy with my impressions of it, why bother replying?

If I get a freebie that might be interesting, I'll reply. And make it clear that I will say what the freebie cost me. When there is no way that there is anything positive I could possibly say, why bother?

If it isn't any good for me, I will say so, regardless of what I did or did not pay for it.

I may, or may not have a light coming for review. If i do, I hereby state that it will be given away whether I like it or not. If I like it enough I will spend my own hard-earned on it. If not, I won't.

I've learned a lot from all sorts of folks here. Why should I be the only one to benefit from what I've learned? Lots of people freely gave their time and learning to educate me. Time to pass it on.

 

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brted wrote:

I have no problem if someone gets a free light and writes a review of it as long as they mention it was free. It is pretty easy to tell a sales pitch from a review.

 

That's pretty much how I see it. I like full disclosure (feels weird to have the FTC on my side :D) and I absolutely don't mind someone getting a free flashlight in exchange for the time and effort they put into thoroughly testing it and writing up a review. Here's my problem: if you have a dodgy reputation and really are trying to make amends, you just don't go ahead and spam a forum or its members. If you're trying to drum up some publicity, fine, that's legitimate and I don't think it's any different from running a promotion to get 5 star DSRs on eBay. As long as there's full disclosure, I'm okay with that. But it would have been nice to ask the guy who pays the bills before coming to his house and opening up a lemonade stand in his front yard, while walking all over his roses.

(In the interest of clarity, language barrier and all: I believe these things should go through Mr. Admin first - particularly if an attempt is made to "recruit" a significant number of users using the site's PM system. I got the same message and even though I don't consider it to be spam per se, I have to wonder why I was picked - well, make that "picked" - in the first place: I don't really do reviews since I'm hardly qualified and I rarely have the time. Yes, asking for forgiveness is easier than asking for permission but the thing is - the Internet never forgets. Methinks this offer, albeit possibly well-intended, backfired.)

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My problem with this is not, getting a light to review and keeping it.  It appeared that she wanted me to post a review with her telling me what to say.  In folow-up e-mails it seems (perhaps) she simply meant she would provide the specs.  I can see how that may have gotten twisted in the translation and if so, I appologize for my contribrution to it.  As many have said, it's all about disclosure and as long as everything is up front then I suppose there's no harm/no foul.  As for myself; of necessity I must set the bar a little higher so if someone is desperate enough to request my services (thankfully my employer is) someone here will get a free light.  Ultimately and in addition, I really would like to be part of this community.  I value being here on this board.  I know it's just flashlights and even though it occupies a relatively small part of my particular universe, it is important to me.  I have some major difficulties in my life at present (nothing we can't handle, so far) and this is a very much needed escape.

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