Physical impressions Fasttech Panasonic 3400 protected

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Physical impressions Fasttech Panasonic 3400 protected

Hi, It is most a pic review of this batteries, I dont have a vernier to make the exact measurents but here I go, I just can make some comparing and test fit with my lights. Received in 14 days from china to venezuela.

Order from here

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001980/1141104-panasonic-ncr18650b...

Using the code coupon BLF you get 5% discount

Well protected

Bill and box to protect the batts.

Comparing pics, is kind big, dont fit in my SD6, H600w, but fit in my ultrafire C1 and 501

Perfect fit in the i4 charger

Measurements of the 3400 batteries and some pictures comparing with others

3400 top button from Fasttech

3100 top button from another dealer

3400 Intl-outdoor flat top

I think that whoever installs the PCB should remove the original packaging of the battery to make them a little thin, but this way is left to show the originality of the battery

I will make some current test in a couples of days

They FIT in the following lights:

Armytek Predator
Jetbeam M1X
Spark ST6-460NW – The cell slides in and out easily, but not by gravity alone. The length is fine.
Ultrafire C1 and 501
SolarForce L2N host
SolarForce L2P (at least in mine)
SolarForce L2P (older, about 2 years prob)
SolarForce m8
SolarForce L2
Old style L2 with extender and MPP-1 head, though it didn’t drop in full speed due to air cushion so it’s a tight fit.
Sky Ray King
TN31 (very tight fit tho)
Fenix TK75
Sunwayman C20C “Tomahawk”
Shiningbeam Blaze
Nitecore P25
Paladin i6
Keygos KE-5
SkyRay King
Sipik SK98 flashlight
Jetbeam M2S
Jetbeam BC25
Crelant 7G6CS
Crelant 7G5CS
Crelant 7G3CS
Crelant 7G2CS
Armytek Barracuda
BlackShadow Terminator
Aurabuy C8 T6

Tight Fit for
Eye 15
Fenix TK35
EagleTac G25C2 Mark II

They FIT in the following chargers:

- Nitecore Intellicharger I2
- Nitecore Intellicharger I4 V2
- Miller ML102
- Soshine SC-S7
- TrustFire TR-003P4
- UltraFire WF-188
- Xtar SP2
- Xtar VP1
- Fenix ARE-C1

They DO NOT FIT in the lights below:

ZebraLight sc600 (too fat)
TM15 (too tall, but does work if you tighten the head like hell, not rec’d)
ElektroLumens SAR (too fat!)
FireFoxes3 (too tall AND too fat!)
Zebralight H60
SD6
H600w
ST360-CW
Cannot Fit / Too tight (fat) (but can force in and have hard time to take it out) for
Fenix E50 (Single / Double Cell). Double cell will crash the -ve end of the battery
KD C8

They DO NOT FIT in the chargers

- UltraFire WF-139

in the “USB power bank” (2*18650) that I got from eBay.(It’s the white one with a slide-in design and an orange “ULTRACELL Plus+ Smart Portable Charger” sticker, although it is sold with other names/stickers as well.)

As for Fenix PD32UE, as mentioned by other forumer, it is cause by the -ve plate is a bit raised as per pic below (right). To make it work (initially), I put a round donut ring tape (got it from notebook battery pack) at the bottom of the battery as per pic below (left). Then it will work.

But, due to limited quantity of the donut ring tape, I put it at the tail cap – spring area as pic (right). Left is the original without donut ring tape.
By doing so, I can use all 6 batteries in PD32UE.

I will update all this info if someone can share with us…

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Edited by: ChangchungLeds on 05/05/2013 - 23:56
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Can you give us the exact physical dimensions?

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Vectrex wrote:

Can you give us the exact physical dimensions?

Tomorrow I receive my vernier, I will post the size asap…

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Dimensions are on FastTech and are +-0.1mm precise I think.
Removing the original wrapper would not be good.
= unknown cell
= more work to do
+ even with that thin plastic wrap due to the protection the batteries are still too small in all my lights.

Yours are so small they don’t have 0.5-1.0mm space there around a battery?

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JackCY wrote:
Dimensions are on FastTech and are +-0.1mm precise I think.
Removing the original wrapper would not be good.
= unknown cell
= more work to do
+ even with that thin plastic wrap due to the protection the batteries are still too small in all my lights.

Yours are so small they don’t have 0.5-1.0mm space there around a battery?

= unknown cell, yes, I comment this in my review on the site, who install the PCB leave the original wrap to ensure originality

Yours are so small they don’t have 0.5-1.0mm space there around a battery? Yeap… Spark SD6, ultrafire C1, barely fit in the Zebra H600

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I’ve got 2 of these on order from fasttech, hopefully they fit my intended applications.

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I don't have any truly objective measurements with regards to how these would perform, but I have six of them right now, and they are doing just as well as the 3400mAh Keeppower batteries I picked up at about the same time.

Their one drawback is definitely the size.  They do not fit into my 1x18650 palight for example.  Otherwise they seem to be excellent batteries.

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Updated with more info

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Do these fit into the Skyray King or any Nitecore Tiny Monster?

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Anzycpethian wrote:
Do these fit into the Skyray King or any Nitecore Tiny Monster?

Should fit either with no problems, but I can only 100% confirm that they will fit fine in the Skyray King.  At least they fit fine in the four versions I tried so far.

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Thanks for the post, it helps me out. I just can’t decide between these, Orbtronic and Keeppower….

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Go with Keeppower and buy a flashlight for the price difference.  They are basically the same.

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I just update the first post with a lot of info about some lights that can work or not with this batts… I hope that help you to make a choice…

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You can add the following to the Will Fit list;

Jetbeam M2S

Jetbeam BC25

Crelant 7G6CS

Crelant 7G5CS

Crelant 7G3CS

Crelant 7G2CS

Armytek Barracuda

BlackShadow Terminator

EagleTac G25C2 Mark II - Very tight fit.

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Is it possible to short the battery like that?

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If you look closely you can see he used some clear material (tape?).

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infinitusequitas wrote:

You can add the following to the Will Fit list;

Jetbeam M2S

Jetbeam BC25

Crelant 7G6CS

Crelant 7G5CS

Crelant 7G3CS

Crelant 7G2CS

Armytek Barracuda

BlackShadow Terminator

EagleTac G25C2 Mark II – Very tight fit.

Thanks… I will

skyrider1 wrote:
If you look closely you can see he used some clear material (tape?).

Yeah, clear tape and then I put the vernier in zero

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Won’t fit in KD C8.

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Cir2kuk wrote:
Won’t fit in KD C8.

Thanks

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Do fit in cheapo Aurabuy C8 T6

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petergunn wrote:
Do fit in cheapo Aurabuy C8 T6

Thanks

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