Which one is the "real" Sipik SK68?

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Which one is the "real" Sipik SK68?

I want to buy a Sipik SK68 as "girlfriend car flashlight" (yes, is a new kind of flashlight Laughing) so i read this review

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/1078

The problem is that seems that there are thousand SK68 and everyone is different. Here's some example:

1 - http://www.everbuying.com/SIPIK-SK68-Cree-Q3-3W-80-Lumens-AA-Zooming-LED...
Q3, glass lens, AA and 14500

2 - http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sipik-sk68-floodtothrow-zooming...
Q4, plastic lens, AA

3 - http://www.dealextreme.com/p/sipik-sk68-cree-q3-wc-120-lumen-convex-lens...
Q3, plastic lens, AA and 14500

4 - http://cgi.ebay.it/Adjustable-Focus-CREE-Clip-Flashlight-Use-AA-Battery-...
Q5, ? Lens, AA

I know that sipik is a clone of other flashlight but i thought there is one Sipik SK68!

So the question is, which is the "real" sipik or the "best" sipik? Anyone try these light and can suggest me which one i have to buy?

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I bought the dx version, not sure if it's 'real' or not but it's of great quality and I love the light.

 

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Honestly, the light I got was off of eBay so I couldn't tell you.  Likely all the same or at least extremely similar.

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According to the manufacturer all SK68 with CREE emitters are Q4, and it's rated for AA 1.5v (It's possible to custom order it with OSRAM emitter too, but I haven't seen any).

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I have got three of them from Focalprice recently. They have a Cree led (probably Q3 or Q4) they support a 14500 and they draw between 1200 and 1300mA.

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Used to buy alot of those at DX. Current draw was around 2A from decent AA batteries.

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Davx wrote:

1 - http://www.everbuying.com/SIPIK-SK68-Cree-Q3-3W-80-Lumens-AA-Zooming-LED...
Q3, glass lens, AA and 14500

Don't be so sure. They also say that it's HAIII and comes with SMO reflector. And it's not HAIII and zoomies doesn't has any reflector AFAIK. 

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mfm wrote:

According to the manufacturer all SK68 with CREE emitters are Q4, and it's rated for AA 1.5v (It's possible to custom order it with OSRAM emitter too, but I haven't seen any).

You found the manufacturer site? Can you give me the link?

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I bought the dx version, not sure if it's 'real' or not but it's of great quality and I love the light.

Dave

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Used to buy alot of those at DX. Current draw was around 2A from decent AA batteries.

The one from DX works also with 14500?

Anyone modded it with different emitter (q5 or r2 for example)?

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Davx wrote:
You found the manufacturer site? Can you give me the link?

http://www.sipik.cn

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Which one is real ??  I think it's the nitecore .. they are all fakes  Silly   Want a free sipik68 ??   

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This flashlight is like Akoray 106! One million clone of the clone!

@mfm: Thanks for the link.

@Boaz: already done.. waiting for sunday draw!

From the site seems that the "real" sipik has Q4 and the one from Manafont is the only one that use this led. It's also true that has different screw on the clip (ok now i seems a mad..).

So no one try 14500 battery on it and no one mod it with different emitter or driver?

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Davx, dont trust of specifications given by chinese sellers.

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Has anyone actually gotten a glass lens in a 1xAA Sipik SK68/clone?

They're fairly often claimed in the specs on web pages but those are consistently wrong in many ways.

 

 

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I got one of mine from here fast ship too. It says sipik on the side........

http://www.meritline.com/cree-led-flash-light-xp-g-q5-convex-zoom---p-74270.aspx

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Has anyone actually gotten a glass lens in a 1xAA Sipik SK68/clone?

They're fairly often claimed in the specs on web pages but those are consistently wrong in many ways.

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I think there are as many versions of this light as there are sellers selling it. A long time ago BLF-er VFMaddict recommended these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCS-Adjustable-Focus-Zoom-CREE-LED-200-Lumen-M...

I've bought over a dozen from this seller, all identical, all without issues. That said, my last purchase was months ago and the latest batch may be different. Also bear in mind that they are single mode. I've yet to find a seller of the 3 mode version that I could recommend because the consistency of these is hopeless.

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I bought 4 from TomTop_W on Ebay and all of them have glass lenses.

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Which one is this with strobe?

Can I buy it ready made from a CN/HK seller?

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Slightly off topic... I picked up a couple of cheapo Sipik68 clones on eBay, but they came with different emitters.  Both were described as Cree Q5.

 

(sorry. crappy pic but you get the idea)

I believe that the one on the left (from Toptom) is the correct one.  What's the one on the right?  

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Silverman wrote:

Slightly off topic... I picked up a couple of cheapo Sipik68 clones on eBay, but they came with different emitters.  Both were described as Cree Q5.

 

(sorry. crappy pic but you get the idea)

I believe that the one on the left (from Toptom) is the correct one.  What's the one on the right?  

I'm almost positive that the one on the right is an OSRAM emitter, judging by the pronounced square in the left corner.

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thank you both.  That's what I suspected.  Not sure whether it's worth opening an eBay dispute over $5...

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At least send a message to the seller. He may want to make you happy.

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Vieplis wrote:

At least send a message to the seller. He may want to make you happy.

 

Already done... Smile

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I actually like the OSRAM Golden Dragon. I've had good results with my lights that have it.

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After a few back and forths with the eBay vendor, including me sending a photo similar to the one above, he was nice enough to give me a full refund.

 

With respect to the CREE vs OSRAM issue, I am much too much of a flashlight noob to contribute much to the discussion.  Looking at my Sipik68 clones, however, I can state that the OSRAM version that I received is a colder colour and does not appear as bright as the CREE version. 

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vēer wrote:

I bought 4 from TomTop_W on Ebay and all of them have glass lenses.

Wow ...the 3 I got aren't glass....they were obvious plastic and not very good either .Tom tom didn't impress me with the quality on these.None of my o rings are fitted correctly and the light is a drop to throw  with the head  not slowed down by a o ring or a metal loop.Any imperfections ,even on the edge of these lenses will show up in the beam ..Not impressed with poor quality.

 The golden dragons / Osrams can be good or bad .. the bad ones seem to be ...very bad / purple .

 the good ones look much more neutral and can be very nice ..big tint lottery

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I must say that I am impressed that you guys can tell which LED is which just by looking at the beam shots.

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You can find images of each emitter if you google, someone here even posted a thread with his collection describing every imetter in pictures.

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vēer wrote:

I bought 4 from TomTop_W on Ebay and all of them have glass lenses.

Wow ...the 3 I got aren't glass....they were obvious plastic and not very good either .Tom tom didn't impress me with the quality on these.None of my o rings are fitted correctly and the light is a drop to throw  with the head  not slowed down by a o ring or a metal loop.Any imperfections ,even on the edge of these lenses will show up in the beam ..Not impressed with poor quality.

 The golden dragons / Osrams can be good or bad .. the bad ones seem to be ...very bad / purple .

 the good ones look much more neutral and can be very nice ..big tint lottery

Mine came all rather well built, dont expect clean beam with these, it will be ringy, but definitely no asymetrical artifacts in mine, I have two headlamps with aspherical plastic lenses and one of them does have really ugly beam - asymetrical half-oval shaped pieces of rings.

Only thing I complained about regarding my lights was that one of the lights came rather scratched and that none of them were really waterproof, so I got partial refund due to their misleading item description, its fairly easy to get water under the lens if you happen to drop it into water or leave it outside/hold for prolonged period of time during rain and there is no way to get rid of that water unless you unscrew the lens cap and wipe it all dry yourself, otherwise it stays there.

What do you mean with " None of my o rings are fitted correctly and the light is a drop to throw  with the head  not slowed down by a o ring or a metal loop "? Zoom is loose on yours or what?

Its tight on mine, not too tight where its impossible to zoom in to the max, just right amount to be engaget easily enough and not sloppy at the same time.

I do think to some extent that these single mode Sipik's are worth 5$, not 6 or 8. Triple mode ones could be sold for perhaps 7-8$.

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> I bought 4 from TomTop_W on Ebay and all of them have glass lenses.

Huh.  One of mine was a TomTop Ebay (single mode) sale and it's the same plastic lens as the others I have -- lens always glued or tightly pressed/screwed in.

Someone who had three-mode said that had a lens that rattled a bit loose; don't recall plastic or glass in that comment.

You're sure yours are glass?  I could've convinced myself, except for noticing the letters pressed in from the back and a few little scratches already.

If you want to test, taking the bezel off and gently poking the edge of the lens with something pointy (behind the bezel's front lip so it won't show) will tell whether it feels soft like plastic or hard like glass.

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