UF-K21 16340 modded to triple

Another tiny triple…

I had a bunch of these Luxeon Rebel triples from ledsupply.com for awhile now:

http://www.ledsupply.com/07007-pw740-l.php

These have 3 Rebel emitters, and are configured in series, so normally need >9V at 1 amp.

I’ve previously modded an Ultrafire S5 with one of these triples, using a 1 amp boost driver from CNQ, but I’ve been wanting to build a smaller, 16340-powered light that uses this same triple, so I’ve been looking around for a host.

I finally decided that I’d use a Uniquefire UF-K21 that I bought from FT awhile ago:

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004109/1300400-uniquefire-uf-k21-cree-xm-l-u2-5-mode-500-lumen-mi

[FT also carries a 1-mode version that’s a bit cheaper: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10004109/1358901]

There’re pics of the UF-K21, including the pill, here on this thread:

Since the CNQ driver that I’d used before was a double-board, and since the UF-K21 is tiny, I didn’t think that I’d be able to get the driver into the UF-K21, so I decided that I’d mod the ledsupply.com triple to parallel, so that I could drive it with a “normal” driver.

I originally tried the now-paralled triple with the original UF-K21 driver, and it actually worked, but it no longer had modes.

I’m guessing that was because the driver was originally designed to driver just a single XM-L emitter and the increased current draw with the triple was causing it to lose the modes.

So I decided to try a Nanjg 2.8 amp driver.

The driver I got was this one, because I thought it’d be kind of neat to be able to switch mode groups without jumpering stars:

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001683/1186301-8-amc7135-2-group-25-modes-led-flashlight-driver-n

After modding the triple star to parallel, I removed the front-end of the UF-K21 pill so that the triple would sit directly on the front of the pill.

I then replaced the original UF-K21 driver with the Nanjg driver (the FT driver was a press-fit into the UF-K21 pill).

However, after putting it all together, the light wouldn’t turn on :(…

The problem turned out to be because the UF-K21 is designed such that the end of the battery tube is unanodized, and has to make contact with the edge of the pill to complete the circuit (the UF-K21 is a twisty), and, since I had cut off the front of the original pill, the rear edge of the pill was too far forward, so the battery tube end couldn’t contact the pill.

So, I took some wire, and wound it around an 18650 battery several times, making a small “coil” that fit into the head of the UF-K21 to “extend” the pill end. I also found a small retaining ring in my junk box that was able to thread into the UF-K21 head “behind” my makeshift coil/pill extender, and which would hold the coil in place once everything was screwed into the head.

One final thing is that I had to do was to remove the small spring from the Nanjg driver. Otherwise, the battery tube couldn’t screw far enough into the head. [Note that the light only will work with button top batteries now.]

After all of that, I then had a working 16340 triple :)…

Turned on:

Disassembled:

Nanjg 2.8 amp w/retaining ring:

White wall (high, ~1m):

I guess that the Luxeon emitters are now being driven about about 0.9+ amps each, which is just slightly under the Luxeon-spec’ed maximum, but, while I could probably add some 7135s to the driver to increase emitter current, I think that I’d be pushing my luck with such a small host.

I´m in!

Just joking. Thats really cool what you did here.

VERY cool! Hoping you have an IMR laying around so you can really see how bright it can be!! :slight_smile:

I have some IMRs (Efest and the Kinoko ones from IS), so I’ll try that later.

I’ve been playing with the light a bit, and I think that cutting/shortening the pill was probably a mistake. In retrospect, I probably should have left the pill at its original length and filled in the hole where the emitter use to go. What I’m finding with the “coil” hack is that if I use the light (change modes) awhile, it stops working, I think because the wire coil compresses. If I tighten the retaining ring I mention, it starts working again, for awhile.

Too late to undo my decision now, so I think that I’ll probably try to find a piece of copper pipe that fits the head and replace the coiled wire at some point :(…

Very cool mod Ohaya. Nice job! Thanks for sharing.

moderator007,

You’re welcome.

Also, FYI, I replaced the “coil of wire”, with the piece of the aluminum pill that I had cut off earlier (after cleaning it up a bit), and the light seems to be reliable now. So the “order” going into the head is now:

- O-ring

- Carclo 10507

- Luxeon triple (now wired for parallel)

- cut-off pill

- Nanjg driver

- Cut-off piece from original pill

  • retaining ring (from junk box)

No spring on the Nanjg driver, but I did add a solder blob to the + contact so that some batteries with shorter buttons worked better.

I don’t have any way to measure lumens, but I also tested with some Sibeile IMR 16340s, and the light seems maybe a little brighter than with the purple UF 16340, but not much. The Nanjg 2.8 amp driver is current-regulated, so I don’t know if I’d expect to see a huge difference?

Very nice mod. I’m glad you got it sorted.

Very good idea to use this host for a triple! I think I am going to copy that :-) Thanks for sharing.