Just another 2 times 2D Mag mod, photo heavy - One is done, the other is DOA. 50% survival rate. That's all folks.

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Just another 2 times 2D Mag mod, photo heavy - One is done, the other is DOA. 50% survival rate. That's all folks.

First - A little music

 

So, I have two LED Maglites, wait... I had two LED Maglites. I got them when Lowe's had their BF sale. I was going to use one for a failed mod, so I decided to use both of them at the same time. Then the problems began...

2mags1a

Here you can see a Black Maglite and a Red body, Black head Maglite, Ummm, guess you can't see the red and black any more, huh.

I screwed up one of the bodies and I happened to have a red Incan body, so I stripped the LED head/bezel and the Incan body/tail cap. Now it's a polished Maglite.

You can also see some other things lying around. There are battery holders, reflectors, LEDs, some copper, some Aluminum rod stock and drivers.

 

2ms1a

I plan on using the stock LED reflectors. I have cut one and I need to do the other.

 

2ms1c

One light will use 2x26650 batteries and the other will use 5xEneloops. I know, there's 8 there, but that's just to throw you off track.

 

 

2ms1b

One light will use an MT-G2 5000k at about 6 amps and the other will use an XM-L2 U2 1D at about 6 amps.

I have a lot of work to do yet. I need to cut heat sinks, get the leds soldered on stars with copper behind them. make locating rings, mod the battery holders for the Eneloops and so much more.

 

2ms1d

Just to give you an idea of the hand labor in these, the 11 rings filed by hand, on the Black Mag, took two days.

 

More when I get more.....

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 1-7-2014

It's Cold! Look, I know it's not cold to y'all, but for East Texas standards, it's Cold!  30 degrees inside the garage and dropping. Good thing I am doing this at work.Laughing

 

I have not gotten much done, since I can't spend the hours on it right now, but here's what I have.

 

2mgs2a

The switch for the Black Mag has been reworked. I added a copper nub on the battery side.

 

2mbs2b

I ran a positive right off the back side of the battery contact and I will wire direct to the led. The switch wires will just go to the driver.

 

2mgs2c

I'm using a NANJG from KD and it has 16 chips on it. I wanted some heat sinking, so I added copper sheet to it. I cut the copper so that it sits in between the two levels of chips and I soldered the chips with the copper in place. They are not soldered to the chips, just sandwiched in. I used AA to keep them in place and they will touch the body of the light, to help with heat transfer. It was a Royal pain in the arse doing it this way.

 

2mgs2d

The heat sinks for the leds are done. Still need to be drilled for wires. Copper sleeves and aluminum centers. The biggest reason I used Arctic Alumina for the MT-G2 led is because of the copper wrapped heat sink. With more than one solder joint, it would be hard to solder the star without ruining the joints in the heat sink. It seems like a lot of AA, but it was compressed so that there is just a thin film between the star and heat sink. The extra around the edges hurts nothing.

 

2mgs2e

 

That's it for now. I have to make a sleeve for 26650s in the Black Mag and then I can assemble and test it. The Polished Mag needs more work, because I have to make up a 4S/2P battery holder for it.

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1-8-14

2bm1a

The Black Mag is finished. You already saw the components and the rest was just soldering a couple wires and stuffing it all in the body.

I cut grooves on the head with a file. Those were the hardest ones I ever did, because of them being cut on an angled surface.

 

2bm1b

2bm1c

The stock Mag LED reflector is a perfect fit around the led base. These MT-G2 leds need the reflectors set down past the die face, touching the star, to get the best overall beam. I have tried several reflectors and they all need to be set down on the star, to get a good clean hot spot.

 

2bm1d

Tail cap mod.

 

2bm1e

PVC battery sleeve.

 

 

Beam Shots

2bb1

High

 

 

2bb2

Medium

 

 

2bb3

Low

 

 

2bb4

2bb5

2bb6

Notice that by 100 yards or so, the spot has gotten too big and it's all flood at that range. MT-G2 is for an awesome single led light, but not at a distance.

Amp Draws:

High - 6 amps

Medium - 2 amps

Low - hardly readable. This is the low-low driver from KD, so low is about 50mA

Lux at one meter was 34,000

 That's it for the black one. It's on to the polished one. I marked the concrete where my tripod was at the different positions, so hopefully, when I take photos of the XM-L2, I can do some mouse overs.

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I've been working on the polished light and I have some stills, but I thought I would throw up this video about the battery holder. I will add stills for it and the rest of the build, in a couple days.

 

 Whatever you do, don't make a battery holder like this.Foot in Mouth

 

The Polished light just died!Yell It died a prolonged death, but it's now resting in the big flashlight graveyard, (better known as my dumpster).Tongue Out

The battery holder shorted out and 8 Eneloops gave 'er all they could, as in direct short. Not very pretty, but it was very smelly.Smile  It's all my fault. I know what I did wrong and it was something that I saw, but didn't remember to do before I tried out the light. The first time I put the holder in, it worked fine and it was bright as hell, with a really tight beam, but the second time, positive to ground ended up melting the holder and the switch before I could get it opened back up. I think the drivers survived and possibly the led, but the holder went bye bye, along with the switch and most likely, four Eneloops.Cry

I then decided to just go with one 4x holder and make it a cut down. Bad luck continued and I managed to ruin the body for good, so it all went bye,bye. Many not very nice things were said, some of them I didn't know I remembered, because they were in different languages. Anyhow, the builds are done. 50% survival rate isn't too good. 

 

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Both lights are going to be very nice Smile

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You knew I was going to ask this foolish question so I will. Why 5 batteries and how does that work? In series that would be 10 volts. Good choice on music video to go with it. I’d need 100 songs to listen to as well to stop me going mad if I had a file in my hand for two days. I’d suggest its time for you to go back to work. Fantastic work as usual.

 

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I’m thinking about doing some rings on a maglite; they look very nice, but dang that is a lot of work!

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To the best of my knowledge, an Eneloop will put out 1.2V. That puts the voltage of 5 in series at 6V so it should be in range for most drivers.

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To the best of my knowledge, an Eneloop will put out 1.2V. That puts the voltage of 5 in series at 6V so it should be in range for most drivers.

Thanks. My idiotic mistake. I think I multiplied 2 × 5 and got 10. Thanks. Makes sense now.

 

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labrat wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, an Eneloop will put out 1.2V. That puts the voltage of 5 in series at 6V so it should be in range for most drivers.

1.2V nominal voltage same thing as 3.7V on li-ion. Fully charged they will be around 1.45V

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Eneloops come off my charger at 1.4V, which means it would be 7V off the charger, but at 6 amps drain, they will drop to 1.1V rapidly. That will leave it around 5.5V and it should work ok with an XM-L2 at 6 amps. At least it shouldn't kill the drivers. I will have to wrap the drivers with a heat sink, but I already planned on having to do that.

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1-7-14  Updated the OP

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MRsDNF wrote:
I think I multiplied 2 × 5 and got 10.

Strange, I multiplied 2 × 5 and got pi … I know it’s highly irrational to do that, but it’s cold…

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Call me stupid but how on earth do you get away doing what you do to drivers and they still work? I cannot for the life of me solder one extra chip on let alone 35 thousand of them complete with custom heat sinks. Next time you get your teleporting machine working beam me over. Nice work OL.

 

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Call me stupid but how on earth do you get away doing what you do to drivers and they still work? I cannot for the life of me solder one extra chip on let alone 35 thousand of them complete with custom heat sinks. Next time you get your teleporting machine working beam me over. Nice work OL.
It's very tedious and frustrating doing those chips and trying to add in the copper without shorting it to the pins was just a little over the top. I don't think I will try that again.Laughing

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Maybe you could have painted the edge of the copper facing the pins with varnish or polyurethane for a bit of protection?

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Super nice OL.... And now I have to say... YEP... it finally got cold in Tyler!! Tongue Out... Well... Chilly.

That black light with all the filing is another masterpiece. I had a German gent that worked for me at one time. He did a 5 year apprenticeship. 4 of that 5 years... his words were "I learned to use a file". They used files 6 & 8 hours a day. What he could do with a file was unbelievable.... What I see in your images...(and have sitting on my shelf) is highly comparable. What art that is! Absolutely amazing. You make MRs DNF and I struggle to keep up and we use lathes! Beautiful!

As always, Thanks for sharing your talent, time, knowledge and expertise! Dan.  

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The Black Mag (MT-G2) is finished. Photos in the OP.

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Gj wrote:

Maybe you could have painted the edge of the copper facing the pins with varnish or polyurethane for a bit of protection?

What I did was to cut the copper so that it was not right on the edge of the chips, but I imagine a coating could work.

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I’m still not happy but nice work. Can you show this poor ignorant sod how the battery holder works on the next one. Thanks.

 

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shouldn’t you have used a thermal paste instead of FUJIK on the MTG 2 build as you are overdriving it to 6A to get better heat transfer ?

and have you zener moded the 16chip NANJG ?

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I'm still not happy but nice work. Can you show this poor ignorant sod how the battery holder works on the next one. Thanks.

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shouldn't you have used a thermal paste instead of FUJIK on the MTG 2 build as you are overdriving it to 6A to get better heat transfer ? and have you zener moded the 16chip NANJG ?
I use Arctic Alumina. I don't use Fujik for stars or for most applications. Yes, I have the zener mod on any MT-G2 using the 7135 driver.

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MRsDNF wrote:
I'm still not happy but nice work. Can you show this poor ignorant sod how the battery holder works on the next one. Thanks.

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Yes, I will show the battery holder mod.

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2 new OL masterpieces Smile

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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Added a video on the battery holder just now, at the bottom of the OP.

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Pure magic OL. I can well believe it took a day to build. Again I dip my hat to your creativity and abilities. Thanks.

 

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Added a video on the battery holder just now, at the bottom of the OP.

We can ALWAYS count on OL!!!   Many Thanks! Dan.

 

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Well, not Always!  The Polished light just died!Yell It died a prolonged death, but it's now resting in the big flashlight graveyard, (better known as my dumpster).Tongue Out

The battery holder shorted out and 8 Eneloops gave 'er all they could, as in direct short. Not very pretty, but it was very smelly.Smile  It's all my fault. I know what I did wrong and it was something that I saw, but didn't remember to do before I tried out the light. The first time I put the holder in, it worked fine and it was bright as hell, with a really tight beam, but the second time, positive to ground ended up melting the holder and the switch before I could get it opened back up. I think the drivers survived and possibly the led, but the holder went bye bye, along with the switch and most likely, four Eneloops.Cry

I then decided to just go with one 4x holder and make it a cut down. Bad luck continued and I managed to ruin the body for good, so it all went bye,bye. Many not very nice things were said, some of them I didn't know I remembered, because they were in different languages. Anyhow, the builds are done. 50% survival rate isn't too good. 

 

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You and I both are not doing too good with lights at the moment. After the PM I sent you the other day I’ve been gardening ever since. The place looks really nice outside at the moment.

 

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Sorry to hear about the #2’s demise…

In the adventure sports world, they say “If you’re not flying (crashing), you’re not trying.” Hope you appreciate that we’re learning from your experiences.


 

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Maglites are pretty roomy, I wonder if a 10-15A fuse could be incorporated into the battery carrier. Undecided

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AAARRRGGH!

I’ve made a few springs glow myself and it royally sucks. Condolences.

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