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Decided to de-lurk

Hey, MidnighToker here from North Carolina.  Been watching the forum here for the last few months.

Am heavily involved in electronic cigarettes and due to the power requirements for them, most of our info on batteries comes out of the flashlight forums.  A few months back, the "tinkering bug" in me started to get antsy and I found myself spending more time reading on CPF which then led me to here.  Just started messing with torches myself, but have a feeling that my compulsive nature will keep feeding yet another gadget habit.  Glad to be here and hope to be around more to at least keep my wallet a little less empty Big Smile

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Welcome to BLF I hope you enjoy your time here. I have a EGO tank and am loving the Vermont Vapors blends I have been smoke free for 20 months now, good stuff. I would really like to make a mod but the Tank system has been working so good for  me I can't see why I would. I have a USB plug in for home and in the car and the big battery pack for everyplace else.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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Welcome to BLF! There's a great group of guys here. Most of which are much more knowledgeable than me!

I also have an EGO e-cig, I have the Tank system and also use cartomizers. Apparently, flashlights and vaping go hand in hand. Silly

At anyrate, off topic, (blf is legendary for off topic convos) What are your guys preferred every day vapes? I like ry4 with some menthol, and i actually really like Red bull...

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Ifrit wrote:

Welcome to BLF! There's a great group of guys here. Most of which are much more knowledgeable than me!

I also have an EGO e-cig, I have the Tank system and also use cartomizers. Apparently, flashlights and vaping go hand in hand. Silly

At anyrate, off topic, (blf is legendary for off topic convos) What are your guys preferred every day vapes? I like ry4 with some menthol, and i actually really like Red bull...

I don't want to sound crazy but my favorite is vermont vapors lemonade when they decided to discontinue it I had them mix a full batch for me it is well over a years supply. I also enjoy there blueberry, blackberry and cola. The best part about vaping is it cost me about 50 cents a day compared to $6 for a pack a day before.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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Welcome to BLF. I don't smoke, regular or vapor, but every time the E-cig subject comes up I am intrigued. Some of the units are pretty cool looking. How about a link to the best place to check into these things and learn something.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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Hi there MidnighToker, welcome to BLF! Thanks for "de-lurking", hope you enjoy your time here!

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Langcjl wrote:
Welcome to BLF. I don't smoke, regular or vapor, but every time the E-cig subject comes up I am intrigued. Some of the units are pretty cool looking. How about a link to the best place to check into these things and learn something.

 

When i switched over to e-cigs, this is the site i used to make all of my decisions. There is so much to read... But, if you're interested or even just wondering what it's all about, IMO this is a good place to start... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

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Welcome to BLF, Midnight!
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Welcome to BLF MidnighToker!

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Aloha and welcome to BLF MidnighToker!

Every once in a while I like the maui wowie blend. 

 

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Ifrit wrote:

Welcome to BLF! There's a great group of guys here. Most of which are much more knowledgeable than me!

I also have an EGO e-cig, I have the Tank system and also use cartomizers. Apparently, flashlights and vaping go hand in hand. Silly

At anyrate, off topic, (blf is legendary for off topic convos) What are your guys preferred every day vapes? I like ry4 with some menthol, and i actually really like Red bull...

Personal favorites are Robacco and Crimson Cow (Red Bull :D) from BlueMistVaping.com and Gorilla Juice (ridiculously addictive!!) from avejuice.com

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Langcjl wrote:
Welcome to BLF. I don't smoke, regular or vapor, but every time the E-cig subject comes up I am intrigued. Some of the units are pretty cool looking. How about a link to the best place to check into these things and learn something.

 

When i switched over to e-cigs, this is the site i used to make all of my decisions. There is so much to read... But, if you're interested or even just wondering what it's all about, IMO this is a good place to start... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

Yes, ECF is probably the most hospitable forum to learn about vaping.  Only problem is that the "fanbois" can get a bit rabid over their own personal favorite device/mod.  I personally spend more time at http://www.vapersforum.com , but the users there can get a bit rowdy.

Been vaping for over 2 years now and is probably the best choice that I've made in a long time.

Thanks for the welcome!

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Thanks guys.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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new vaper on the forum here too. vaping exclusively almost 5 months. i use the prodigy v3.1 from puresmoker @ 6v. like my rcr123a's in my lights, and in my ecig Silly fav vape is the old CashCap... they also discontinued and i only have about 20ml's left on reserve... 

 

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Welcome to the madness Pulsar.

Looks like you live close by I spend a lot of time in Maine snowmobiling in the winter.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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A 'Vapers' sub-forum around here......I'm another eGo-T user (switched from a 905 after 14 months).

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E-cigs, hmmm.

I bet I would try if only I was addicted more to nicotine. They seem very interesting, far more interesting than regular smokes (which I have never smoked).Tongue out

 

Over cigarettes I prefer cigars but only about once /month (see avatar).

Hmm, might just start cigar-thread over offtopic...

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E1320 wrote:

Welcome to BLF I hope you enjoy your time here. I have a EGO tank and am loving the Vermont Vapors blends I have been smoke free for 20 months now, good stuff. I would really like to make a mod but the Tank system has been working so good for  me I can't see why I would. I have a USB plug in for home and in the car and the big battery pack for everyplace else.

 

BTW:

What cells do these e.cigs usually use?

Li-Ion or NiMh, what size? Protected?

Can you change the bare cell or do you always need a new one.

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Welcome to the forum. I live in the CLT area of NC. The ecig thing is interesting to me but I have no desire to start a new "hobby".

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I forgot to say Welcome to all newcomers...

Better late than never

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CheapThrills wrote:

E1320 wrote:

Welcome to BLF I hope you enjoy your time here. I have a EGO tank and am loving the Vermont Vapors blends I have been smoke free for 20 months now, good stuff. I would really like to make a mod but the Tank system has been working so good for  me I can't see why I would. I have a USB plug in for home and in the car and the big battery pack for everyplace else.

 

BTW:

What cells do these e.cigs usually use?

Li-Ion or NiMh, what size? Protected?

Can you change the bare cell or do you always need a new one.

I haven't had one die yet so I haven't pried one open, but my usb powered ones say ICR10440P 360mah on them so I assume they are standard protected 10440 Lion batteries.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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E1320 wrote:

I haven't had one die yet so I haven't pried one open, but my usb powered ones say ICR10440P 360mah on them so I assume they are standard protected 10440 Lion batteries.

 

Well, that already explains a thing or two.

On some local forum, people are wondering why batts arrive DOA, don´t last long and/or claimed bigger capacity batts don´t last longer.

For what I´ve tested, these 10440 unprotected (and protected) Trustfires and ultrafires lose their performance really fast Sad

 

 

I bet they are unprotected, BTW Wink

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CheapThrills wrote:

I bet they are unprotected, BTW Wink

The sealed factory batteries have built in over-discharge protection... So they are at least partially protected. When it gets down to a certain voltage, it will not work anymore Smile

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they are mostly Li-ion, some lifepo4, some use regular ol nimh (they call it the puck). they all use rechargable batteries. unless you get a mod, the batteries are not easily user replaceable. mods usually use anything from a 10440-26650. my mod uses 2 lifepo4 rcr123a for "6v" vaping. some people are happy with 10440s, they make for a small mod, and you can carry a few extras to make it a day. i think the usual is 3-4 hours vaping on one. ill usually make it a day on my lifepo's. they even have a custom nimh "5v" battery for vaping

 

if any of you smoke and is interested, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com is great. i think the ecig and flash communities could merge quite nicely

 

edit: almost all the ecigs that you cant easily replace the batteries are regulated and have protection. i believe the ego is regulated to 3.2v if i remember correctly. and most ecig users recommend "safe" usage of batteries, either it be a safer chemistry or protected cells

 

sorry for helping go off topic Foot in mouth

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The batteries used depends on the e-cig (or "mod").  They're all either Li-ion or LiMn (with an occasional LiFePO4).  At this point they are all protected.  Were a few chuckle-heads building "mods" with CR2's, but that crap pretty much stopped after a few explosions/rockets/3rd degree burns.  Was never real big on the Egos, but a 10440 doesn't quite seem right performance wise.  At only 360mAh, they shouldn't be able to handle the draw on the Low Resistance atomizers.  The "mod" that I use is a custom built using 2 UF 18350 XSLs with a switching regulator.

 

LOL....yeah, looking like a new sub-forum is being born. :bigsmile:

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what switching regulator does it use? ive been messing around with the kis-3r33s module some. i tend to try to reinvent the wheel, so most of my mods are fails... but someday the new wheel will roll like a mofo... i also have a couple ti modules im waiting to play with. got a ti 4050 booster, im going to power with a couple 650mah rc heli batteries in parallel, with USB charging. just got my batts today from china

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Right now I am using the TI PTR08060W, but have some of the Murata OKR-T/6-W12-C on order to try out.

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MidnighToker wrote:

The batteries used depends on the e-cig (or "mod").  They're all either Li-ion or LiMn (with an occasional LiFePO4).  At this point they are all protected.  Were a few chuckle-heads building "mods" with CR2's, but that crap pretty much stopped after a few explosions/rockets/3rd degree burns.  Was never real big on the Egos, but a 10440 doesn't quite seem right performance wise.  At only 360mAh, they shouldn't be able to handle the draw on the Low Resistance atomizers.  The "mod" that I use is a custom built using 2 UF 18350 XSLs with a switching regulator.

 

LOL....yeah, looking like a new sub-forum is being born. :bigsmile:

 

Any idea how much these things draw? And runtime with one batt?

360mah is by my knowledge a bit optimistic capacity for 10440 Big Smile

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when building one, 3a is usually what you want everything to be able to handle. people usually say a 10440 will last 3-4 hours, depends on atty resistance and how much you vape though

the okr-t6 is one i want to try, but havent got around to getting one yet

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Yeah, 3 amp is the rule of thumb for builds.  I have pushed mine to near 3.5 amp just to push it, but realistic range is 2-2.75 amp.  It varies depending on what the resistance of the atomizer/cartomizer is.

And runtime all depends on the battery and usage....just like torches.  My current mod with the 2 18350s (1200mAh) I go nearly 2 days between battery swaps.  And now that I am thinking about it, the standard Ego batteries are "supposedly" 600mAh (900, 1000, and 1100 are options).  Think most people are getting around 6 hours out of them.

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I have been checking out the forums and links listed here and my head is spinning with info. It's just like when you start with flashlights. I don't think I'll ever get that deep into ecigs but I would like to try something out. How about a few links to some budget units that are decent and that use replaceable batteries that flashlight guys have on hand and are familiar with. Is there a recognized good starter unit out there? Has to be kind of cool, not lame.

Piers said " ....but who wants enough light, when you have the option for far too much "

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Langcjl wrote:
I have been checking out the forums and links listed here and my head is spinning with info. It's just like when you start with flashlights. I don't think I'll ever get that deep into ecigs but I would like to try something out. How about a few links to some budget units that are decent and that use replaceable batteries that flashlight guys have on hand and are familiar with. Is there a recognized good starter unit out there? Has to be kind of cool, not lame.

Not cheap but not junk either. I have been using this kit since it came out about a year ago very high quality and low maintenance.

http://www.vtvapor.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products...

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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