Illumn: In Search Of GroupBuy Contacts

Hey guys,

We’re a US based dealer of many brands and are on the search for GB reps. Since I’m kind of unfamiliar with how the arrangements work you’ll have to message me with your details and propositions. No more dealing with returns to China, I speak english (decently well), and I don’t bite I promise :wink:

Oh… now this sounds like a possible good match… but with manufacturing over seas, the issues will still persist if custom mods are to be performed.

Do you mean if we’re arranging special edition lights? Or if you’re trying to claim warranty on a product that you’ve modified?

I can’t imagine anyone expects a manufacturer to provide a warranty on a modded device. I think what mattlward is thinking about is the various problems challenges that have come up with custom group buys / builds. See the ongoing A6 and X5/X6 threads for examples.

  • shipped with the wrong level firmware
  • pocket clips that wont fit on jeans
  • thinner than expected lenses (possibly)
  • battery tubes too short
  • battery tubes with wrong threads

and so on.

I’m thinking he probably means more “mainstream” groupbuys like the ones freeme and M4D M4X sometimes work on, not the BLF edition stuff like the A6 and X6 Cu/SS

is that right Calvin?

A nice thing with the China vendors is that they ship free all around the world…shipping internationally from US is the most expensive I can think of.

Yes more mainstream, though I’m not against custom runs.

That is true, we’ll probably target domestic more. At least there are plenty of existing international friendly GB vendors.

If you could ship also to Europe at rather good prices that would be nice.

You may want to change the title to actually say “group buy”. I know I originally assumed “Gearbest” before I saw your username. Just a thought.

Hmmm… Armytek, Eagletac, Jetbeam, Nitecore, Niteye, Olight, Sunawayman, Thrunite, Zebralight, others…

Yeah what he said

I don’t care what manufacturer it is, let’s get one going!

Shipping usually takes a while from China, Illumn has always been quick about shipping items, especially since they’re located in the US.

Calvin, I guess I should not type on my phone and in a hurry. It sounds like I was misunderstood! When I think of a group buy light, I think of our totally custom projects. When I think of a negotiated good deal on a stock light, I think of it as just that. I mistakenly assumed you were referring to the first, not the second.

My statement was a gut reaction, it to me seemed that you were offering the first, then you would either be a manufacturer or a middle man. It would be great if you were a manufacturer in the States and were interested in producing lights that are not CPF priced. If you were offering to be a middle man, for custom over seas production I am not sure it would help.

Sorry for the confusion….

Matt

I really wish we could, but USPS shipping costs are ridiculous to Europe.

Done.

Zebralight is probably not happening due to extremely poor profit margins and dealer discounts.

Pick a model :slight_smile:

Hi Matt, I’ve looked at the numbers and possibilities of USA manufacturing. It’s just not possible to compete in pricing, especially not at lower volumes. Right now we’re in early prototyping stages for a overseas manufactured light and it’s already not that cheap.

Calvin, thanks for the honesty! I suspected as much. But I will be very interested in seeing your offerings in the future!

I would be interested if you are able to provide good deals for AT, ET, ZL or heavily discounted clearance models. O:-)

Hi freemee, ZL is a no go unfortunately. AT and ET I can do but ET has the nazi MAP police, please PM me with details on how you run GBs.

Canada too please!