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Chose the one (WUBEN Flashlight)
T101
17% (17 votes)
T102
57% (58 votes)
T103
26% (26 votes)
Total votes: 101
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Here are the latest prototypes of WUBEN flashlight.  We appreciate your comments to improve the products.

Please see the pictures and description below, poll the model you prefer, reply with any suggestion. Thank you very much.

 

T101.

Type-C charging port

XHP70

2*18650

3500 lumens

DTP copper board

SS bezel

LED e-switch

power indicator

quick access to fast strobe and turbo

T102

Type-C charging port. 

XHP70

1*26650

3000 lumens

DTP copper board

SS bezel

LED e-switch

Power indicator

Quick access to fast strobe and turbo

Tripod mounting hole

T103

Type-C charging port. 

XHP35

1*18650

1800 lumens

DTP copper board

SS bezel

LED e-switch

Power indicator

Quick access to fast strobe and turbo

 

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Type C is not a good choice IMHO

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Is it safe to charge cells in series in a flashlight?

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X3 wrote:
Type C is not a good choice IMHO

But type B sure is Thumbs Up

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Henk4U2 wrote:
X3 wrote:
Type C is not a good choice IMHO

But type B sure is Thumbs Up


Sure, micro USB type B might be the more convenient, it’s a true universal port nowadays
Type C might be the future, but I’ve yet to see it in real life…

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Very nice styling. I’m not a fan of disproportionately huge heads on flashlights. And I personally prefer no crenellations on the bezel. But, I know the bigger reflector makes better throw possible, so I’m in the minority opinion there, I guess. And some people like a little crenellation, so they can see if the light is on while head standing. But, you could make the crenellation more shallow and it would greatly improve the looks to me. Overall, the T103 looks the best, and the T102 looks much better than the T101 to me. For best balance of Output/Run-time/Aesthetics/Carry, the T102 probably hits that balance. I guess, in the way of ‘participation trophy’ you could say the T101 would be the best at clubbin’. Innocent It also has the most claimed output and probably the best run-time of the three. Still, I would have made that one with the cells side-by-side instead of in a long, skinny serial tube with that huge head. All things considered, I don’t think you’ll have any trouble selling any of those three lights! Big Smile

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-X3- wrote:
Type C is not a good choice IMHO

A cable will be included in the package.    Most andriod phone charger adpator could work.

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Thing is, type C isn’t a standard at all. It’s only the form factor of the connector. It still can be USB3.0 or USB3.1 1,5amps or 3,0amps. Only type-C says nothing. I would go with mini or micro. It’s good enough for a flashlight. USB-type-C still fighting it’s “standards-game”. Doest it include thunderbolt, at which amp it functions, it all different specs which makes it a very unclear standard.

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i dont agree,

I think having a type c port would be great but only if it behaves like a usb device should, as in it follows the correct usb specs for the type of device it is.

with a USB c port it could be possible to use it as a usb battery pack as well if desired with the correct hardware etc.

its great to see the type c port being looked at but do it properly or not at all.

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quick access to fast strobe and turbo

Most of us here would rather have quick access to low (or moonlight) and turbo, but NOT strobe!

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I like that no micro knurling is used, for me this is just a dirt magnet. New anodizing colors are always welcomed like grey, olive or tan. I dont like the design of the first prototype, a long thin tube + large head looks kind of oldschool. I voted for the 18650 prototype

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mapache wrote:
Is it safe to charge cells in series in a flashlight?

It won't be a problem if the batteries are same voltage and internal resistance.

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Hmm, torn between T102 and T103. Like David said, I’m not a big fan of aggressive crenellations, so I like the looks of T103 the best. But it does appear to have much less mass and heat sinking, which makes me wonder how long it’ll run before stepping down. Can’t wait to hear more about them!

And USB Type-C is a defined spec, details of which can be found here. But it’s a connector specification, much like USB Type-A, Type-B, Mini-B, Micro-B, etc. Not to be confused with USB 3.1 (a communications spec) or USB Power Delivery (brief article here). And yes, it is less common, but it is the future. Nearly all new flagship Android phones (and some Apple products) are using USB-C.

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[x] W102

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Nice looking lights Wuben! My favourite is the single 26650 XHP-70 Wink

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althought T103 flashlight use type-c charging port, while now there are not too much charger to suit them
I aggre type C is a irreversible tread but now it is not convient to use type C I donot want to carry another charger only for the flashlight

so I will choose none

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Nice to see USB Type C! Every new high-end Android device uses Type C. Micro-USB is a shit connector that needs to be put out of its misery.

I like the T102. I’ve been wanting to buy a single 26650 light.

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Choose one: T103 looks like a nice light however, the heatsinking fins are very shallow and I question weather they are in the right place. Does this light use a pill that screws in or a shelf that’s part of the head? Thanks

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Choose T102
Seems the most balanced design to me.
I wonder if the bezels do a lot with the beam.
Type C connector is smart and progressive, like it.

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T102
Any battery included WUBEN?

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if the batteries are same voltage and internal resistance.

You can’t guarantee that will be — and continue to be — the case.

Series charging eventually becomes unsafe for the customer.
Probably after your warranty expires.

Take 2 identical cells.
They drain down exactly the same way to the same voltage.
They start at the same low voltage when charging.
They recharge to exactly the same voltage.
No problem.

That never happens. Cells age — and heat cycling ages cells faster.
The cell closer to the heat source will be hotter each time.

And people aren’t removing the batteries, so they’re not getting put back in randomly.

The cells slowly diverge.
If they drain down to exactly the same voltage (if there’s a voltage shutoff in the driver)
Then, as they differ, they will recharge to slightly different voltages.

If they’re protected cells and you’re relying on cell protection to stop the drain
the protection circuits will not be (or remain) identical.

Result — no problem for a while, and eventually you’ll have two rather different cells being recharged in series.

That’s a problem.

Just my opinion, “and I“m just some guy on the Internet”:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template:cite_guy_in_bar.

But you should talk to an engineer who understands this, not a marketing person.

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Type C is for the birds. Count me out

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T102 looks good. I think micro usb is a better option. My phone is new and still uses micro usb not many phones use type c yet.

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DavidEF wrote:
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quick access to fast strobe and turbo

Most of us here would rather have quick access to low (or moonlight) and turbo, but NOT strobe!

I disagree and agree depending on how strobe is accessed. I don’t like cycling thru a bunch of modes to get there and I don’t like activating it when I don’t need it. A set up like the XTAR WK’s or BK or the Fenix PD’s and UC’s where you have to hit the button a certain way or hit another button is ideal. When I need strobe I need it immediately. I’ve used it a number of times this year to wake up dummies before they added themselves and their cars to accidents. If I had strobe available 15 yrs ago at a similar scene there would be one less guy in a wheelchair today.

PS I voted 103 but it’s a toss up between 102 and 103 for me.

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103 looks the best to me.. 101 I think the batteries should be side by side not end to end, that long tube with the giant head looks disproportionate. I have never used the strobe option on any of my lights. I find it useless to me, I’d rather see hi-med-low. Personal preference, I can see where strobe can be useful to some individuals as jf_smm just pointed out.

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I am a 26650 kinda pimp.

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eebowler wrote:
Choose one: T103 looks like a nice light however, the heatsinking fins are very shallow and I question weather they are in the right place. Does this light use a pill that screws in or a shelf that's part of the head? Thanks

It is integrated shelf. The fins around the button are in the right place, that's where the LED sits,  the reflector is long.

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Corzy wrote:
T102 Any battery included WUBEN?

Battery is included.

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hank wrote:
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if the batteries are same voltage and internal resistance.
You can't guarantee that will be -- and continue to be -- the case. Series charging eventually becomes unsafe for the customer. Probably after your warranty expires. Take 2 identical cells. They drain down exactly the same way to the same voltage. They start at the same low voltage when charging. They recharge to exactly the same voltage. No problem. That never happens. Cells age -- and heat cycling ages cells faster. The cell closer to the heat source will be hotter each time. And people aren't removing the batteries, so they're not getting put back in randomly. The cells slowly diverge. If they drain down to exactly the same voltage (if there's a voltage shutoff in the driver) Then, as they differ, they will recharge to slightly different voltages. If they're protected cells and you're relying on cell protection to stop the drain the protection circuits will not be (or remain) identical. Result -- no problem for a while, and eventually you'll have two rather different cells being recharged in series. That's a problem. Just my opinion, "and I"m just some guy on the Internet":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template:cite_guy_in_bar. But you should talk to an engineer who understands this, not a marketing person.

Sorry for my earlier careless reply, after talking with the engineer and viewing some data, I have realized this.

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