Haikelite MT03 (updated)

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Haikelite MT03 (updated)

Hey lads so I made this video its just a first look at the Haikelite MT03 to much talking and a bit of testing and if course some beam shots it’s not the review its just an over view. It should at least give you a run down of the light.
The ceiling bounce test will show you how bright this light is.
Link to buy the light.
HaikeLite MT03 Devourer

Okay i got some pics of what you wanted i am over run with lights to review now.

This is the MT03 empty
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This is the head of the MT03
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The body empty of the MT03
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Fully loaded MT03
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My cells do not make proper contact i know its hard to see but the positive terminal is recessed
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The MT03 is the first light on the left
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The MT03 is on the left
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The height the MT03 is on the left again.
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Specs:
—Emitter: Triple CREE XHP70 N4 CW or N2 NW
—Aluminum Alloy body with HAIII Anodize black surface Finish
—Battery: 4x High Drain >10A Flat Top 18650 (only fit standard flat-top 18650, Single light do not include battery)
—Switch: Side electrical switch with big Transparent rubber boot
—Aluminium OP Reflector
Ultra Clear Double-sided AR coated Glass lens (99% Light transmision )
—Double O rings; IPX8 Waterproof
—With standard Tripod hole
—Max Brightness: 8760 Lumens CW ; 7560 NW 5000K CRI80
—Max Runtime: 58 days
—Brightness Level: (Digital current regulation)
Low Low: 10 Lumens (28 days )
Low: 150 Lumens (35 hrs to 10% power)
Middle: 1000 Lumens ; (550 minutes to 10% power)
High: 2700 Lumens (330 minutes to 10% power)
Hidden moonlight: 0.6 Lumens ; 58 days
Turbo—8760lumens —-2.5 minutes (thermal control) step down to 5500 Lumens—-2 minutes (thermal control) step down again to 2400 Lumens (300 minutes to 10% power)
— Timed Temperature stepdown and thermal regulation
Size: 127mm length x 72mm Head x 50mm body
Weight:600 Gram
UI:
Single Click-on ; Single Click-off
Hidden Moonlight (press and hold switch in off status; easy to access)
Low Low-Low-Mid -High-turbo (Long press to change modes ; with last mode memory)
Quick access to Turbo (Double click in any mode easy to access) ; Turbo can be memorized.
Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light; Repeat to unlock. Tail cap-lockout also available
Switch LED indicator:
100%~50% power: Blue LED on
50%~9% power: Blue LED flash twice every 2 seconds
Blow 9% power: The flashlight will flash fast and step-down to moonlight.
The indicator LED will be off on Moonlight mode to extend the run time.
Internal parts:
40mm Haike Copper DTP Emitter board
20 gauge thick copper+silver wires
5mm thick internal integrated emitter shelf
double silver-plating copper-alloy springs

Okay lads another update the review ill be in a few days hold on tight! If you want a mass lumen light this is your best bet. Think of this as being a new S70 or L6 we all know how good the value is on those! Who knows once Haikelite becomes bigger they could raise there prices. Hopefully not we need a company that can give us mass output at a good price right now there is no one.

Driver! Its hard to get a good angle
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Driver
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eh i will flip and zoom in just because i love you!
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Driver retaining ring is beastly! It is 5mm in thickness
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Other side of the driver retaining ring
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The hole in the middle is so you can stick your wiener in there! Technically its meant for the screw that holds the reflector in place! But if it fits it fits!
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The screw that hodls the reflector in place is massive this could have also fallen lose from my head hahaha
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Bottom of the reflector the base is 12mm in diameter.
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Top of the reflector is 25mm if i measured right? looks like i jizzed on it but i think its only a spiderweb from microfiber cloth becauyse its gone now. Total length of the reflector is 60mm
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I probably should have measured this but i didn’t think to at the time
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The lens is 2mm thick and 67mm wide.
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Screw hole driver side
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Usually i wouldn’t do this but i had to check it out i would give the MT03 a 10/10 for modifying purposes!

Edited by: everydaysurvivalgear on 11/12/2016 - 15:25
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You sir kick a$$. First thing I checked when clicking play, was how long the video is. Is it just 30 seconds? Maybe 2 minutes?. Nope, almost 20 minutes… yeah! Thanks and cheers!

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Yea to much damn talking lol just skip I compare it the thorfire s70 and niwalker 25mb in the ceiling bounce test. It’s bright. At start up its over 9000 lumens hahaha over 9000 Silly

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Those two red double o-rings look badass. The light is just so much thicker than the MM25MB…

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Now i feel refreshed was to hot last night to sleep.

Yea heaps heavier then the 25MB but doesn’t step down like the 25MB i should also mention that 60 lux =1000 lumens on that ceiling bounce so start up the MT03 could be 10k lumens. Just how close it is i am not sure. But it is double the the S70 in brightness and not even double the price so its great value. I think every one will be happy with it i will throw it on the scale once i finish my midday breakfast lol

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Comparing to the S70 ~3500lm (high side estimate) it would appear the MT03 is ‘only’ around 7000lm?

The cells were fully charged in the S70?

The MM25MB is a bit of an unknown as to its actual output.

Interested to see what others find.

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nah no way my S70 is way brighter then that 4500+ lumens its running 6amps. It has to be over 4000 lumens seeing as Cree rates the XHP70 to run at 4.8amps

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There’s losses out the front and inefficiencies in the driver. Unless your S70 is modified it should be well under 4000lm.

Take Djozz’s LED testing for reference, at 6A to the emitter an XHP-70 N2 on DTP copper emits about 4200lm. Subtract about 20% loss for a very rough OTF lumen estimate.

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Thanks for the review. Are there any dark spot in the beam? From you video it looks like a really nice flood light.

It looks like Haikelite updated their website on the MT03. 8760 Lumens CW and 7560 NW 5000K CRI80.

I just can’t decide if I should get the MT03 or MT07. I already have a TN36 so, I might get the MT07 instead of the MT03.

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I am not sure people on here tested the amperage using a light a box and got 4200 lumens at 5 amps binning comes into play also.

Hey mate nah no dark spots. Yea i would be guessing it would be around 9000 lumens once it settles its just 200 lumens under so not bad that could also be the light box. But they did get it professionally tested. Id say buy the one that you will actually use the most?

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/26665

Led reference. All kinds of great data.

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Thanks for the review..

It’s not so clear in the video. Can you post some pics by camera?

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Some updated pics lads I will try and get some beam shot at a park but i am having a busy week.

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That thing is a monster. The head only weighs more than a M43… Looking forward to your real review of this light Wink

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What is the throw figure for this light? I’m guessing around 20-30kcd?

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Is that driver from the 2S2P model?  There is a buck converter in there (Chip marked LEDA 1624).  The buck converter can easily take 4S cells, but I don't know about the rest of the driver.  Would be nice to know if both models have the same driver.  Or more importantly, if the 2S2P model can be converted to 4S without a driver swap.

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

Is that driver from the 2S2P model?  There is a buck converter in there (Chip marked LEDA 1624).  The buck converter can easily take 4S cells, but I don’t know about the rest of the driver.  Would be nice to know if both models have the same driver.  Or more importantly, if the 2S2P model can be converted to 4S without a driver swap.

Hey mate yea it reads 8 volts when the battery pack when out of the light. I am turning this into a mod thread i will play with the driver soon. I wouldn’t mind to bump the power a little. Maybe the driver is the same but you would need to change the battery holder around to a series config. Easy enough.

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waiting on the MT-G2 version

don’t need the total top end but would like to see a long running 3k lumen mark break with MT-G2 cells

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everydaysurvivalgear wrote:
ImA4Wheelr wrote:

Is that driver from the 2S2P model?  There is a buck converter in there (Chip marked LEDA 1624).  The buck converter can easily take 4S cells, but I don't know about the rest of the driver.  Would be nice to know if both models have the same driver.  Or more importantly, if the 2S2P model can be converted to 4S without a driver swap.

Hey mate yea it reads 8 volts when the battery pack when out of the light. I am turning this into a mod thread i will play with the driver soon. I wouldn't mind to bump the power a little. Maybe the driver is the same but you would need to change the battery holder around to a series config. Easy enough.

Cool.  Best wishes on the mods.  I'm sure you have this covered, but I would do the following if I were to test the driver for 4S compatibility.  I'm not an expert in electronics, but this approach works well for me.

  • Remove one of the R100 resistors from each of the 3 output channels. 
    • Chances are too much current will flow with double the voltage.
  • Connect the driver input to a bench top power supply so that you can gradually increase voltage.  Connect the output for one emitter to ammeter so that you can monitor current output.
  • Start at 8.4v (equal to 2S) and go into one of the lower regulated modes.
  • Increase voltage.  If output starts going up, you need more resistance on the voltage output sensor banks.

The goal is to have increased output in the highest mode, but unchanged output in the lower modes.  If you increase output in the lower modes, that is a sign the inductors are getting over saturated.  Which is not good for buck regulation.

 

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 Nice light ! I understood that you want to mode it and the steps recommended by "ImA4Wheelr" are very pertinent and , most of all , electronic correct . The saturation of the magnetic core of the coil will generate also a lot of heat . The solution is to solder a bigger one (hard to do ) or to DIY one from a toroidal core , in the old fashioned way , by winding and measure the inductance.., let's hope that will not be the case !

Second thing that I want to suggest is to change the electrolitic capacitor (big black cilinder) with a SMD tipe with the voltage bigger than the maximum Vin from the batteries (at least  X 1.5 ) . From my experience this capacitor is the bottle neck of ALL drivers that has something like this , the temperature is increasing their capacitive reactance and in time the luminous flux will decrease dramatic , as the temperature is the capacitors worst enemy. The SMD ones are less sensitive, better quality and stability in time .

The value is not critical , I used in my modding and repairs values from 22 to 100 micro farads with no problems.

Hope that this was helpful ! Cheers !

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I just got this light, did a spring bypass, dedomed emitters, how could I make it direct drive?

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I have the mkII of the MT03 and the driver seems to be identical to this one.
Very tiny inductors…
Let me link to my mod topic, because i’m modding the driver (when parts arrive), and the first thing is to replace the inductors with “60-52” toroids (light green with blue side 15mm outer diameter) with 1mm diameter wire.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/53964
Plan is to also upgrade the FETs and diodes and finish it off with a resistor mod (0.03 Ohm)
I hope all will still fit inside the head.. Facepalm

PS: It seems that fat driver retaining ring in mine is made of copper ?!

Looking for:

5” parabolic reflector (for recoil light)