What are the differences between Mica capacitors and general capacitors ?

I read an electronic magazine in which there is a report on what are the differences between Mica capacitors general capacitors. After reading, I became interested in Mica capacitors that I have never seen before. So I searched some related materials and information about this topic from google. Today I come to this forum to turn to you to discuss my understandings are appropriate.

Here are my personal understandings:

Mica capacitors are made of metal foil or silver plate on the mica to do the electrode plate, plate and mica layer after layer, and then die-casting in the bakelite powder or sealed in the epoxy resin made. It is characterized by small dielectric loss, large insulation resistance, the temperature coefficient is small, suitable for high-frequency circuits. Mica capacitors are widely used in applications where the stability and reliability of capacitors are high. Mica capacitor small size, light weight, solid structure, easy installation, stable performance. Available performance is excellent in radio equipment, precision electronic equipment, modern communications equipment and equipment, radio, amplifier, TV.
As the mica material has excellent electrical and mechanical properties, so that the mica capacitor itself inductance and leakage loss is very small, with a wide range of voltage, high reliability, stable performance, high precision and other advantages. Particularly suitable for use in high-frequency oscillation circuit , High-precision operation amplification, filter circuit and other occasions.
Mica capacitor as a non-polar capacitor, compared with the general non-polar capacitor has a great advantage, personally think that it is the best of a non-polar capacitor. Capacity is generally between 4.7-51000pF, the accuracy can reach ± ​​0.01 % - ± 0.03, which is difficult to achieve the general capacitor (compared to some low - frequency ceramic capacitors and some aluminum electrolytic capacitors, the value of the accuracy is generally ± 20, up to ± 50%.
Mica capacitors have high electrical insulation, better transparency, excellent peelability, higher chemical stability, better reduction and high temperature conditions to maintain the excellent physical and chemical properties, and thus It is mainly used as a very important insulating material widely used in electronics, electrical, telecommunications, electrical, aviation, transportation, instrumentation, metallurgy, building materials, light industry and other industrial sectors, as well as national defense and cutting-edge industries. Since the 1970s, the use of mica in the insulation support material and dielectric material of capacitors and motors has been replaced by mica paper made from crushed mica, and the vast majority of communication tubes have been replaced by semiconductor integrated circuits , Causing a fundamental change in the consumption structure, so the demand for mica is significantly reduced, while the demand for broken mica growing. With the development of science and technology, moss mineral in recent years in the building materials, geological exploration, lubrication, paint, food, cosmetics and other applications continue to expand, broken mica and sericite mineral raw materials will have broad application prospects.

What are the differences between Mica capacitors and general capacitors?

    Mica capacitor temperature coefficient is small, generally can reach 1 \* 10 ^ (–6) / ℃ or less, than the average organic film capacitors (such as polyester capacitors) is much better, compared with the ceramic capacitor is more obvious advantages.  
    Mica capacitors can work in high temperature environments, the maximum ambient temperature can reach 460 ℃, far more than the general ceramic capacitors, and the general aluminum electrolytic capacitors can only work at 105 ℃. And long-term storage capacity of the mica capacitance changes between 0.01% –0.02%, also better than the average capacitor.  
    If you want to do high-quality, high-precision, high stability of the analog circuit, mica capacitor is the only choice. In the high-end circuits (such as high-end Hi-Fi audio), the basic use are also mica capacitors.  
    As the mica capacitor production process is more complex, costly, bulky, limited capacity, so the price in the market is also higher than the average capacitor.

Ps: Excuse me if I was wrong in words or expressions as I am a green hand in the field of Mica capacitors. I need continual learnings.

What is your idea ? Do you agree with my ideas ? Any of your ideas would be highly appreciated.

May someone would like to help ?

thanks in advance

It seems that you already answered to your own questions ! What I can ad is that this mica capacitors are one of the " oldest" capacitors , since the vacuum tubes used in radios an tv. Reliable , high voltage capabilities ( I saw ones of the size of a lighter, capable of sustain 64 KV !) , very stable in time , extremely low current leakage .., but , generally ,small capacity .

Now , used more in circuits for high power emitting antennas , communications .

If your question was about why these are not used in drivers or PA circuits the answer is in their size for a given capacity and the price.

Why to use an almost ideal capacitor with a price of 2-5 $ per piece , when you can use a 20 cents one that is doing the same job ?

According to your statement, what are the new capacitors as you said ? thanks in advance.

Below is a decent summary of capacitors that are used today and sum of their uses. Mica caps only make up a small portion of the capacitor market.

I agree 100% with what Cera posted above. As a hobby I restore tube radios from the 30’s and often see mica capacitors in the radios and rarely are they bad even though they are approaching 90+ years of age whereas the paper and electrolytic capacitors are always replaced with modern capacitors as they have a very high failure rate do to their construction.

http://www.studyelectrical.com/2016/12/different-types-classification-of-capacitors.html

Bob

Did you saw in my " statement " something about "new capacitors" .. ? Because , I can NOT ! A capacitor is a capacitor from the moment they were invented (somewhere at the middle of 18-th century , I think...) , basically , 2 metallic plates with a dielectric material between them ...Improvement of production technologies is a different thing , the purity of materials used, is an other. Talking about "new" capacitors is about miniaturisation , vaporised metallic plated films of polyester , polystyrene or polycarbonate ,and materials used for dielectric: tantalum for electrolitics , mylar and high purity ceramics, glass , mica or even air for the non polarized ones ...

Thanks to HorizontalHunter , for the link he posted, you have all that you need ,there.If you are looking for the IDEAL ,good for everything capacitor , forget it !...

Each type is perfect for the job its were designed : frequency , capacity , voltage , reactive capacitance, leakage current , tolerance , temperature and stability in time.

Otherwise , finding the Holly Grail Capacitor Technology will send all the manufacturers to bankruptcy ...

I can not agree with your ideas. I think that my major is electronic engineerings and I posted this topic to identify it is correct.

My dear , feel free to disagree...! But I do not understand ,what do you want from us ? To identify if it is correct , what ? Here is not about what you think about something , is about technology , physics , chemistry , and their laws.., things that will never change , regardless what you feel about !...

I passed thru your first post again , thinking that I missed something , that entitled you to disagree with the others ideas (sorry , no ideas , knowledges !)

And , guess what ? I found nothing , but a general presentation of mica capacitors , and all of us agreed with this one .., good , pertinent and true ! What else do you want from us , I don't understand ..!?

If you opened a topic just to disagree on nothing and everything , is up to you.. , but is not the way the things are going around here !

We have respect to each even when we disagree ,we discuss and share experiences , knowledge and new findings.., and is not a dialog between deaf ...

And most of all , we know to stop talking and listen to what others has to say...but this is coming with the time...

Cheers !

thanks for your fast reply. I respect your ideas about things as we have own rights to decide which is correct or miscorrect. Certainly we come to this forum to share ideas or experience. And I come here to share my ideas. So we have different point of views. It is correct not wrong.

Lad , you are missing the point ! Is not you , the ONE ,that is deciding what is correct or incorrect when is about LAWS of physic or electrical and electronic circuits !!!

If you refuse to understand that means that is wasted time...

BTW , I just noticed that your last 3 threads are " copy-paste " of the first one ( even the P.S. is the same !) , excepting the subjects debated.., and this smells fishy , at least to me.., You are just copying from that magazine and post here to see if we are stupid enough to disagree with a scientific article ?

In one thread you are an engineer "speciality transformers"(!!!?) , in an other one, you are electronic engineer .., and so on ..!

When somebody knows "everything about everything" , makes me wander...,but could be just me , I'm an envious guy......

I was playing with the idea to notify the Administrator about this , because I do have the feeling that you are just making masked and sublimated advertise, in the behalf of company you work for.., or worse , you just want to see your user name on a respectable forum , like BLF...!

If you are what you said , an electronic engineer , there are things that you suppose to know , and not asking about opinions on obvious subjects , as you are doing right now !. For example , the PLCs are in the area of expertise of an programing and automation engineer ,trust me , I worked with , and , the only thing an electronic engineer can do , in case a a failure , is to change I/O plates , or to check the power supply...The Logic Lather for a PLC is far more complex that seems at a first glimpse...

Maybe I 'm wrong , but I DO think that you are trolling...and , as the Mr. Administrator suggested some time ago , I'll ignore your posts , starting from now...3...2...1 !

I do think that you should not doubt my ability. You’re wrong with your ideas in your conclusions. But at least thanks for your comment in the end.

when it comes to polarized capacitors there is the same question of standard capacitor or Tantal ones, Tantal have their advantages but are not better in some applications, and sometimes you are better with a standard capacitor

of course Tantal ones are pricy as well

thanks for your explanation. It can help me better improve my ideas. thanks a lot.

One of the most common passive component questions we hear is “What are the differences between the wide varieties of capacitors?” When your schematic calls for a capacitor, you have many choices: electrolytic, ceramic, silver mica, mylar, monolithic, tantalum, glass or supercapacitors, just to name a few. It can be confusing, especially if you have a specific application that requires extra noise filtering or high voltage handling capabilities. Below are some common types of capacitors and what applications they are most often used in:

Ceramic Capacitors

Ceramic Capacitors
0.047µF Ceramic Disc Capacitor 900 Piece Ceramic Capacitor Grab Bag
900 Piece Ceramic Capacitor Grab Bag

Made of ceramic material as the dielectric and metal as the electrodes, ceramic capacitors come in a variety of shapes and sizes. They are generally less expensive than other capacitors and carry lower capacitances (couple of µF max.), which makes them used often during low capacitance requirements in noise/harmonics filtering and suppression applications. Multiple ceramic layers may also be arranged and compressed together to form a block, reducing equivalent series inductance and creating a monolithic ceramic capacitor.

Electrolytic Capacitors

Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitor100µF Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitor Electrolytic Capacitor Grab Bag100 Piece Electrolytic Capacitor Grab Bag High capacitance capabilities (1000s of µF) allow these capacitors to store a great amount of energy for their size. There are a few different types of electrolytics, but they mostly use a very thin layer of oxide as the dielectric and a conducting semi-liquid electrolyte as one of the plate electrodes. These polarized capacitors are often used in coupling, ripple smoothing, DC blocking, bypassing, filtering and timing applications.

Polystyrene Capacitors

Using polystyrene film as the dielectric, these capacitors provide high insulation, low distortion, high frequency ranges and good temperature stability. They usually come in a through-hole package, so surface mount packaging is not available. They are widely used in audio applications such as ham radio for EMI/noise filtering and RF coupling.

Mylar Capacitors

Metallized Polyester Film Mylar Capacitor
1µF Metallized Polyester Film Mylar Capacitor 400 Piece Mylar Capacitor Grab Bag
400 Piece Mylar Capacitor Grab Bag Another type of film capacitor, mylar caps have the great properties of high heat and humidity resistance. Because of this, they are able to be used in harsher environment applications like power converters, lighting, timing and communications. Mylars are generally larger in physical size than other caps, taking up more valuable real estate in the process.

Tantalum Capacitors

Metallized Polyester Film Mylar Capacitor
6.8µF Tantalum Capacitor 100 Piece Tantalum Capacitor
Grab Bag
100 Piece Tantalum Capacitor Grab Bag These are a type of electrolytic capacitor with three different types in itself: tantalum foil electrolytic, tantalum with the porous anode and liquid electrolyte, and tantalum with the porous anode and solid electrolyte. The tantalum capacitor is known for its high capacitance density. It is also highly reliable in many applications (so long as it is not reverse biased and is not subject to high voltages or ripple currents), although they are mostly used in decoupling, DC blocking, bypassing, filtering and timing applications.

Silver Mica Capacitors

1000pF Silver Mica Capacitor
1000pF Silver Mica Capacitor

Silver mica capacitors have low tolerance levels providing highly accurate and stable performance. The mica dielectric contains thin sheets of silver foil in between to provide a chemically stable structure that does not react to many environmental substances. Greatly used in tuning circuits and harsh environments, silver mica caps are the ones to use for high performance applications that require the most accuracy and dependability.

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And this was “discussed” with someone from “Kynix Semiconductor Hong Kong Limited” in Guangdong. LOL.
I kinda miss the kitchen threads from good old Britain.