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The Miller wrote:
Haven’t found the time to watch Mhanlens review Lumens, runtimes, should be in there.

I suspect you’re thinking about the Acebeam X80 he reviewed recently or not?

(if so, it’s probably flashlight overdose causing the confusion)

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Argh really?
Dang must be small phone screen and the 80 in the name Sad
So still no real info on this one, sigh.

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Anyone got theirs yet? It’s taking a while.

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Davevo 5k wrote:
Anyone got theirs yet? It's taking a while.
Information posted in the German forum indicates that the first batch went to the Far Eastern market, and there is a few days delay with releasing the second batch, to fix unspecified issue.

I think that the first reviews will appear in Chinese forums.

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Thanks Richbuff

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I prefer to wait for second batch, you know Imalent.

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rizky_p wrote:
I prefer to wait for second batch, you know Imalent.

Ok, so you get the second batch, then I might get the third batch.

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no i’ll get fourth batch then, by that time DX100 with 100000 Lumens emerges Big Smile

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I prefer to wait for second batch, you know Imalent.

Ok, so you get the second batch, then I might get the third batch.

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Silence redefined… Sick

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If it helps, I ordered 1 a couple of weeks ago.

BTW, I have quietly been following this thread and read with amusement all the dis’ing going on about this light because it won’t run on its maximum brightness for an indefinite amount of time. All I can say is
SO WHAT!
In my opinion it is completely unreasonable to expect otherwise.
Who here has a car that is capable of running full throttle for an extended amount of time.
Who here would need it too if it could. Nice to have it though…..

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I don’t think people are dis’ing it. Just wondering what the performance will really be like. 32,000 lumens will produce an incredible amount of heat. I’m curious how they’re going to deal with that.

Yes, even 32,000 lumens for 10 seconds will look very impressive. Use it in a house, and it will make any room look uncomfortably bright.

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It is not dissing from my part.
Anxiously awaiting real use reports.
And well yeah I think most car buyers would not get a car if it was known that after 2 minutes at 150mph the engine would throttle itself down to 30mph.
Despite most never will drive it at 150mph. It is kind of logical to want a lot of lumens for as long as possible right? (A click for lumens is something else then racing at 150mph Wink )

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“Datasheet “:http://s32.photobucket.com/user/sen0rphil/media/Flashlights/received_700...

Specs are amazing. 7000 lumens continuously. Even if it turns out to be only 5000 lumens continuously, I’d be happy. Now we wait again for test results…

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Wow! It seems to get better and better

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32,000 lumens for 3 minutes before step-down? That’s going to be hot!!! Or 13,000 lumens for 10 minutes before step-down?

I’ve got to see the tests from reviewers. Sounds too good.

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32,000 lumens for 3 minutes before step-down? That’s going to be hot!!! Or 13,000 lumens for 10 minutes before step-down?

I’ve got to see the tests from reviewers. Sounds too good.

Thermal roof is set at only 50 degrees C, which is fairly low compared to what some other companies do. It’s possible that Imalent uses a huge fan aimed at the vent slots of the light for cooling. Combined with the passive internal cooling fins with a huge amount of surface, I’d say the figures are possible. Now one can argue that this kind of testing does not comply with ANSI. But then again, a lot of lights Imalent released (at least recently) don’t comply with ANSI output rating anyway…

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32,000 lumens for 3 minutes before step-down? That’s going to be hot!!! Or 13,000 lumens for 10 minutes before step-down?

I’ve got to see the tests from reviewers. Sounds too good.

Thermal roof is set at only 50 degrees C, which is fairly low compared to what some other companies do. It’s possible that Imalent uses a huge fan aimed at the vent slots of the light for cooling. Combined with the passive internal cooling fins with a huge amount of surface, I’d say the figures are possible.

And submerged in ice water. Wink

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32,000 lumens for 3 minutes before step-down? That’s going to be hot!!! Or 13,000 lumens for 10 minutes before step-down?

I’ve got to see the tests from reviewers. Sounds too good.

Thermal roof is set at only 50 degrees C, which is fairly low compared to what some other companies do. It’s possible that Imalent uses a huge fan aimed at the vent slots of the light for cooling. Combined with the passive internal cooling fins with a huge amount of surface, I’d say the figures are possible.

And submerged in ice water. Wink

Well here’s the thing. The Olight X9 has 25000 lumens with built in fan. If I recall correctly, it can produce max output for like 5 minutes or so? I was pleasantly surprised with this time for such an output. Now, the DX80 has 32000 lumens, and Imalent claims 3 minutes, which I find fairly in line with the X9’s value if the DX80 is externally cooled with a fan.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Well here’s the thing. The Olight X9 has 25000 lumens with built in fan. If I recall correctly, it can produce max output for like 5 minutes or so? I was pleasantly surprised with this time for such an output. Now, the DX80 has 32000 lumens, and Imalent claims 3 minutes, which I find fairly in line with the X9’s value if the DX80 is externally cooled with a fan.

Maybe, but that would be cheating, and also dangerous. I doubt Imalent would implement a 3-minute step-down, assuming someone is going to be blowing a fan on it.

I forget the details… are they using a timed step-down, or thermal control? It sounds like a timed step-down, from the spec sheet. 50C after 3 minutes at 32,000 lumens? That just doesn’t sound possible.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Well here’s the thing. The Olight X9 has 25000 lumens with built in fan. If I recall correctly, it can produce max output for like 5 minutes or so? I was pleasantly surprised with this time for such an output. Now, the DX80 has 32000 lumens, and Imalent claims 3 minutes, which I find fairly in line with the X9’s value if the DX80 is externally cooled with a fan.

Maybe, but that would be cheating, and also dangerous. I doubt Imalent would implement a 3-minute step-down, assuming someone is going to be blowing a fan on it.

I forget the details… are they using a timed step-down, or thermal control? It sounds like a timed step-down, from the spec sheet. 50C after 3 minutes at 32,000 lumens? That just doesn’t sound possible.

They are at least using a thermal step-down, but of course they might have added a timed step-down as well. Honestly, prior to wondering about step-down time, I initially question how many lumens this light is actually going to produce in the first place. Lot of pressure on Imalent as all eyes are on this light. If this thing does 25000 lumens max for only 1 minute, then that’s fine by me. Of course, this won’t make Imalent look good though…

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Termal regulation, the light will maintain 50 degrees by reducing the output….

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7K lumens continuously, sounds great!

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hIKARInoob wrote:
They are at least using a thermal step-down, but of course they might have added a timed step-down as well.

Oh, that might explain the spec sheet’s claim of 3-minutes at 32,000 lumens. It might really only be a small fraction of that, before thermal control kicks in. But if you’re using it outside in winter, you might get the full 3 minutes. I dunno… just speculating.

BTW, isn’t 50C way too low for thermal control? That’s barely getting hot.

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BTW, isn’t 50C way too low for thermal control? That’s barely getting hot.

Meteor M43 is also set at 50C, which gets fairly warm close to hot. There is a difference where the sensor is placed. For example Thrunite and Acebeam have models where the sensor is on the ledboard, whereas the M43 has the sensor on the driver. 50C at the driver means temperature on the ledboard is higher.

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BTW, isn’t 50C way too low for thermal control? That’s barely getting hot.

Maybe after too many complaints for DT70 running extremely hot after just a minute they decided to make more advanced cooling that will always allow you to make as much lumens you can get and keep the temperature acceptably warm at 50 C… So 5000 lumens for 3,5 hours sounds more then enough for me.

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One thing to note is accuracy of the temperature sensor. Just like how there often is reported of an off-set voltage readout with the DN and DT models, so could temperature sensor fluctuate a lot as well between actual and measured values.

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They are indeed crazy specs. I also would have only expected 1 minutes of run time at 32k lumens unless it had an internally built-in fan for cooling. The run times on the lower modes are just glorious with the 8 × 18650 pack. What I am drooling over just as much as the lumen figures are the throw figures. 160 kcd out of a flood light is insane. I cannot wait to receive it. Apparently they will be releasing neutral white in the future. I was also told that the cool White Version will be probably more like 5000k.

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pommie wrote:
Gerrit wrote:

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foto van Imalent Flashlights.

Scroll down to the third image, they can’t even use their own beamshot ????
http://www.ohgizmo.com/2016/03/29/is-the-repulsor-flashlight-the-worlds-...

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Wow, I’m just now noticing this. The guy in the picture is not even holding the light. Plus it’s an aspheric lens beam pattern. That’s pretty shady right there.

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Pchri12 wrote:
T160 kcd out of a flood light is insane.

At 32,000 lumens, that sounds about right. If it was a 1000 lumen light, the candella would only be about 4,600. That’s very floody.

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Wow, I’m just now noticing this. The guy in the picture is not even holding the light. Plus it’s an aspheric lens beam pattern. That’s pretty shady right there.

Lol. At least they reversed the original image (maybe to prevent copyright claims on the photo?). Anyway, funny.

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