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Any flashlight that has Led lenser zoom system

Recently i’m interested in Led lenser Zooming system
their system can collect more light from the Led comparing to old classic zoom system
i want to try one, more specific, led lenser p7.2, but its price is quite high for a 320 lumen light
so, i guess there maybe a clone of this, at least, zooming system, i know it’s patented, but, well, i don’t really care (sorry if i offend anyone Sad )
can anyone recommend one, my budget for this is less than 50 bucks
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They used to partner with Fraen… eons ago to develop their focusing lens setup at the time. Not sure who they work with today. Hopefully someone else can provide details. Maybe if you identify the lens, you can narrow it down a bit for an alternate choice? 99.99% of the focus-zoom lights (non-Lenser) are nothing more than aspheric lenses at varying focal points.

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There aren’t any, it’s a patented design.
Other “zoomies” only use an aspheric lens which reduces the lumen output by more than half when zoomed in.

Coast makes flashlights with a similar TIR system to led lenser, however it is not the same, their TIRs make a spot+flood output similar to a standard reflector flashlight:

This is NOT the same as the led lenser TIR which focuses the beam into either all-spot or all-flood.

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Go to AliExpress, search for “p7.2” and at least 3 sellers have “clones” of it at about 33€ (+/- $37). Wink
I have an eye on those for many years now, but unless I could do a nice mod, I won’t get one!

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Fenix FD series has similar TIR zoomable optic, yet the hotspot when zoomed is similar to Coast picture above – it has also a spill.

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MascaratumB wrote:
Go to AliExpress, search for “p7.2” and at least 3 sellers have “clones” of it at about 33€ (+/- $37). Wink
I have an eye on those for many years now, but unless I could do a nice mod, I won’t get one!

Okay, i wonder whether the beam is as same as real one

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Walther Pro also have TIR zoom lens, but they are also expensive.

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As far as the images from buyers show, these are not “clones” these are authentic led lenser flashlights at factory price ! (My guess, of course)

Portable P7.2 9407 Professional Dimmer Tactical LED Zoom Flashlight Torch Lamp for Hiking Camping http://s.aliexpress.com/JbiuQvyy
(from AliExpress Android)

When I said that I wouldn’t buy one is because it takes AAA batteries and now I’ more into li-ion! Also, even beinh a very nice and well made light, if I want throw, I’ll buy a thrower not a zoomie to see far away!
But these are my preferences for me! Someday I may get one for my parents Wink

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yasenf wrote:
Fenix FD series has similar TIR zoomable optic, yet the hotspot when zoomed is similar to Coast picture above – it has also a spill.

The fenix zoomies are more like the opposite, they are “un-zoomies” Silly
Instead of focusing the beam into a spot, they do the opposite and make the beam super wide flood.
In their “focused” position it is about the same as a regular TIR or reflector beam profile, with a hotspot and spill.

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Okay, i wonder whether the beam is as same as real one

It’s not, unfortunately.

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When I said that I wouldn’t buy one is because it takes AAA batteries and now I’ more into li-ion! Also, even beinh a very nice and well made light, if I want throw, I’ll buy a thrower not a zoomie to see far away!
But these are my preferences for me! Someday I may get one for my parents Wink

Led Lenser has started making 18650 and other standard li-ion flashlights, however I don’t really like their new style.
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MascaratumB wrote:
As far as the images from buyers show, these are not “clones” these are authentic led lenser flashlights at factory price ! (My guess, of course)

Portable P7.2 9407 Professional Dimmer Tactical LED Zoom Flashlight Torch Lamp for Hiking Camping http://s.aliexpress.com/JbiuQvyy
(from AliExpress Android)

When I said that I wouldn’t buy one is because it takes AAA batteries and now I’ more into li-ion! Also, even beinh a very nice and well made light, if I want throw, I’ll buy a thrower not a zoomie to see far away!
But these are my preferences for me! Someday I may get one for my parents Wink


That product page didn’t look right. Ledlenser P7.2 doesn’t have smart light user interface (just momentary boost, high, and low using resisters). Emitter is XP-G2 not Q5. Looks fishy!
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i want to try one, more specific, led lenser p7.2, but its price is quite high for a 320 lumen light

We have a p7.2. I bought it. Debbie wanted it, so I gave it to her. She uses it daily.

It is well made with a good fit and finish. it comes in a nice presentation box. It looks and feels expensive.

The UI is not good. High-low-off. Hold the button down for turbo. No memory.

Debbie likes it.

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POP lite copy Led Lenser. I know member Jerommel bought one and was not impressed for the price. I think it should be easy to find an original Led Lenser P7 or something similar for under $50.

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yeah, i got a Pop Lite..
The problem it has (besides the antique LED and no driver) is that the head is adjustable just within the middle range, where even Led Lensers project rings..
It’s waiting for me to open the head (which has glued bezel) so i can increase the head travel.

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Here’s a cheap clone:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html
Could be good, could be crap…

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Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html Could be good, could be crap…

Severe Cold? … Pretty original name, haha! Sick

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Yeah, it’s for when you have too much Uranusfire. Big Smile
O well, as long as you keep your Probe Shiny..

I think i will buy one though.

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Enderman wrote:
Led Lenser has started making 18650 and other standard li-ion flashlights, however I don’t really like their new style. !{width:25%}https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0910/6726/products/73079_grande.jpg?v=...!

Hum, didn’t know this one! But I’m with you, I don’t like that design so much… Don’t know about the specs, but the other series seem to be more pleasant to the sight!

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That product page didn’t look right. Ledlenser P7.2 doesn’t have smart light user interface (just momentary boost, high, and low using resisters). Emitter is XP-G2 not Q5. Looks fishy!

Hum, you’re probably right! I didn’t notice those details! But there are things in AliExpress that are not correctly written in the specs. Some lights use different batteries from those written on the specs, other have different LEDs from those advertised…and let’s not talk about the advertised lumens as well Facepalm Big Smile

On this particular light, I read the comments from the different sources and someone said it was not “completely original”, something about the battery compartment. I always thought this would be a “factory” price or something like that, but…maybe my guess was wrong about this one.

If I had to choose a zoomie light, I’d probably get one from the Convoy line (BD04).

[REVIEWS] AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// XTAR: PB2 Charger /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// SKILHUNT: M150

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If you want a fine zoomie, get the Brynite B158.

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Brynite has regular aspheris lenses which is cheap but not very efficient solution.

I can’t recommend any LedLenser flashlight, they’re not worth the price and their zoom system is overrated. I had one before and all I can say that beam from a regular reflector (of Fenix’s zoom system) is much more versatile. Flood in LedLensers is very poor, it’s brighter on the edges which messes with your eyes, it’s also blueish in the middle.

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Brynite has regular aspheris lenses which is cheap but not very efficient solution.
While this is true, the thing out throws every reflector light with the same diameter.
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I can’t recommend any LedLenser flashlight, they’re not worth the price and their zoom system is overrated. I had one before and all I can say that beam from a regular reflector (of Renix’s zoom system) is much more versatile.

What’s Renix’s zoom system?
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Flood in LedLensers is very poor, it’s brighter on the edges which messes with your eyes, it’s also blueish in the middle.
That’s strange though, because it would just be a matter of how close the LED can get to the central lens in the optic.
The tint shift is normal though.
Every zoomie i have (had) is cooler in the middle / warmer on the outer perimeter when in flood position.
But then again, normal reflector lights also have a lot of tint shift in the output.
If you want to avoid that, you want a proper fixed focus TIR optic.
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I’m often wondering how long this Led Lenser patent is supposed to last…
I did find 40mm diameter Led Lenser (like) optics though, but i have no use for 400 pieces, so i didn’t order… Big Smile

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Jerommel wrote:
If you want a fine zoomie, get the Brynite B158.

I already have a zoomies, i want to experience Led lenser zoom system(the only reason for its high price)

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Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html
Could be good, could be crap…

37$, hmmm, i am not sure, it looks solid and well made, but, a clone is a clone, who knows about thier quality

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mrheosuper wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html Could be good, could be crap…
37$, hmmm, i am not sure, it looks solid and well made, but, a clone is a clone, who knows about thier quality

If you really want to know the Led Lenser optic, then I think you should get a Led Lenser. A clone may look like a Led Lenser, but the optic/led can be of a different quality, and you’ll never know for sure.

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mrheosuper wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html
Could be good, could be crap…

37$, hmmm, i am not sure, it looks solid and well made, but, a clone is a clone, who knows about thier quality

It’s €9.93 from where i’m sitting.

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mrheosuper wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
If you want a fine zoomie, get the Brynite B158.

I already have a zoomies, i want to experience Led lenser zoom system(the only reason for its high price)

I feel the same way.
But Led Lensers are just way too expensive i.m.h.o.

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Jerommel wrote:
mrheosuper wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html
Could be good, could be crap…

37$, hmmm, i am not sure, it looks solid and well made, but, a clone is a clone, who knows about thier quality

It’s €9.93 from where i’m sitting.

….aaaand i just ordered one. Smile
I wonder if it’s any good.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html Could be good, could be crap…

Severe Cold? … Pretty original name, haha! Sick

Their “Projectile Diarrhoea” brand didn’t go over so well.

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mrheosuper wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
If you want a fine zoomie, get the Brynite B158.

I already have a zoomies, i want to experience Led lenser zoom system(the only reason for its high price)

Me too.
Jerommel wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
mrheosuper wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Here’s a cheap clone:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Severe-Cold-Super-Bright-Rechargeable-CREE-XML-L2-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Adjustable-Hiking-Searching-LED/32779310700.html
Could be good, could be crap…

37$, hmmm, i am not sure, it looks solid and well made, but, a clone is a clone, who knows about thier quality

It’s €9.93 from where i’m sitting.

….aaaand i just ordered one. Smile
I wonder if it’s any good.

Nice. Smile
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phantom23 wrote:
I had one before and all I can say that beam from a regular reflector (of Renix’s zoom system) is much more versatile. Flood in LedLensers is very poor, it’s brighter on the edges which messes with your eyes, it’s also blueish in the middle.

Completely disagree with you.
The beam from a regular reflector has both spill and spot, so you either have an annoyingly bright spot in the middle when you’re working close up, or you have a bunch of wasted surrounding light when you’re looking far away, which reduces your night vision.

Fenix’s zoom system is the complete opposite, instead of letting you zoom in and completely remove spill, it only lets you zoom out to produce superwide flood (like 78 degrees or something crazy)
It does not focus into a spot-only tight beam. In it’s “focused” mode is is pretty similar to a normal reflector flashlight with spot+spill.

The spot is only very marginally brighter at the edges of the circle when zoomed out, this doesn’t “mess with your eyes” at all, idk what that even means.
The flood is extremely uniform, way better than any reflector flashlight, and is cool white, not blue. Maybe you had an older model or defective version or something.

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Enderman wrote:

Led Lenser has started making 18650 and other standard li-ion flashlights, however I don’t really like their new style.


Cool… I kind of like that one. Have to keep an eye out for it at Frys or Amazon.,

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