*** NEW *** Haikelite MT09R Monster lights *** Update *** 2018-07-03

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BlueSwordM wrote:
Yeah probably. Or more like:

5700k 80CRI(my MT09R stock LEDs)
4000k 80CRI(maybe)

I dont see CRI numbers listed in HL’s product and BG’s. From where were your MT09Rs sourced? Hoping this new version stick to those numbers.

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I think haikelite use TA driver on their new 24000 lumen light.. anyone can confirm?

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Newlumen wrote:
I think haikelite use TA driver on their new 24000 lumen light.. anyone can confirm?

That’s the million dollar question. There is a pass around MT09R light heading towards our friends of TLF, so I suspect za Germans will give us the answer first.

Source: post #329 https://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/threads/haikelite-mt09r.60477/page-9

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bibin wrote:
BlueSwordM wrote:
Yeah probably. Or more like:

5700k 80CRI(my MT09R stock LEDs)
4000k 80CRI(maybe)

I dont see CRI numbers listed in HL’s product and BG’s. From where were your MT09Rs sourced? Hoping this new version stick to those numbers.


I’m surprised BlueSwordM hasn’t responded. The 4000K 80cri was an emitter sourced by Texas_Ace, not HL.

I’m not sure about the 5700K.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Newlumen wrote:
I think haikelite use TA driver on their new 24000 lumen light.. anyone can confirm?

It might his design, but he did not make. The last picture I saw of the protype from the Chinese driver maker was total trash.

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cellguy wrote:
Newlumen wrote:
I think haikelite use TA driver on their new 24000 lumen light.. anyone can confirm?

It might his design, but he did not make. The last picture I saw of the protype from the Chinese driver maker was total trash.


Prototypes can look bad, but function good. I wouldn’t focus on it unless it used inferior components. I will reserve all judgment until they are officially released and reviewed.

BTW, where was that picture? I’d like to see it.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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JasonWW wrote:
cellguy wrote:
Newlumen wrote:
I think haikelite use TA driver on their new 24000 lumen light.. anyone can confirm?

It might his design, but he did not make. The last picture I saw of the protype from the Chinese driver maker was total trash.


Prototypes can look bad, but function good. I wouldn’t focus on it unless it used inferior components. I will reserve all judgment until they are officially released and reviewed.

BTW, where was that picture? I’d like to see it.

TA sent it to me as a PM but asked I not make it public. I am sure he would send it to you.

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I still remember that Terry said the 5700k was 80CRI.

Not sure about the 4000k and 3000k at all.

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I would be very interested if haikelite make mt09r with the 8 cells version.. i feel like 4 cells drain very quickly…

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Yeah. I would love to have 8 cells.

I would buy the aftermarket tube if it was possible.

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BlueSwordM wrote:
I still remember that Terry said the 5700k was 80CRI.

Not sure about the 4000k and 3000k at all.


Okay, so the 5700K 80CRI was what HL said they used on the factory lights. If so, then the new lights could definitely be using that.

To my knowledge HL never had the 4000K 80CRI. Those were hard to get emitters that TA found.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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I could definitely tell it was 80CRI at 5700k.

The real reason for Haikelite not putting in 4000k 80CRI emitters were not because they were hard to find. I easily found them at Mouser and Arrow, and I could easily order them myself.

The problem would be that the top bin of 4000k 80CRI is quite a bit more expensive than the lower bins, which is why Haikelite did not put them in their lights.

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This is from TA post..

Highest P2 bin 70cri XHP70.2 tints:

5700k
4000k

80cri xhp70.2 Tint options:

4000k
3000k (NASA had me install these into a GT for them, looks like an incandescent light, pretty neat actually)

In the real world the 80cri have a much lower forward voltage and usually are only a little behind the 70cri in lumens from my testing. For example the P2 4000k in my L6 was a bit over 9k lumens and my 80cri M4 bin 4000k is around 8500 lumens, it just pulls about a fair amount more current to do that.

I can also get different xhp35 HI tints as well:

70cri D2 bin 5700k
80cri C4 bin 4500k
80cri C2 bin 4000k
80cri C2 bin 3000k

XHP35 HD (HD has the dome still on it, a bit less throw but more lumens, I like them in everything but a dedicated thrower myself):

70cri E4 5700k
80cri C4 5700k
70cri D4 5000k
70cri D4 4500k
70cri E2 4000k
80cri D2 3000k

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Anyone have a beamshot of 80 cri xhp70.2 4000k ?

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Newlumen wrote:
Anyone have a beamshot of 80 cri xhp70.2 4000k ?

M440G 80CRI Pretty much tried them all… https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cree-Inc/XHP70B-01-0000-0D0HM440G?qs...

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That telephone pole looks sketchy.

The low mode should be lower.

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LichtAn wrote:
https://de.aliexpress.com/store/product/HaikeLite-MT09R-Flashlight-CREE-XHP70-2-max-15000lm-beam-distance-550m-CREE-XHP35-Hi-max-7500lm/1185120_32855196030.html?spm=a2g0x.12010108.1000016.1.18a82563kGts43&isOrigTitle=true

Are these legit? Store has good reputation.

This was mentioned briefly in the past. A member noticed this store selling the coloured MT09R lights: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1297852#comment-1297852

Former Haikelite USA distributor replied: “Almost forgot. I Spoke with Dale last night. Haikelite knows nothing of their brand listing on Aliexpress so a little warning. Purchasing those are totally non authorized and will not be covered by the brand in any way.”

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1298375#comment-1298375

I would double check with Dale to see if this is true though. I personally tend to think the lights are legit.

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I’m a bit more careful with Aliexpress nowadays. And since 130 Euro are on the line..I better wait. LOL

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I’m a bit more careful with Aliexpress nowadays. And since 130 Euro are on the line..I better wait. LOL

That’s a different story, but that’s also my take on the situation. No Paypal, no thank you.

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Doesn’t it give you paypal as an option when you checkout? I noticed that option recently, although it has an extra fee for using it.

The low mode should be lower.

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leaftye wrote:
Doesn’t it give you paypal as an option when you checkout? I noticed that option recently, although it has an extra fee for using it.

I just checked, but there is no option for Paypal. Maybe you can contact the seller and transfer money via Paypal; this is also possible with Simon from Convoy on Aliexpress.

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leaftye wrote:
Doesn’t it give you paypal as an option when you checkout? I noticed that option recently, although it has an extra fee for using it.

I just checked, but there is no option for Paypal. Maybe you can contact the seller and transfer money via Paypal; this is also possible with Simon from Convoy on Aliexpress.

It must be a regional thing because Paypal is an option as payment options when I checkout with this light.

The low mode should be lower.

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leaftye wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
leaftye wrote:
Doesn’t it give you paypal as an option when you checkout? I noticed that option recently, although it has an extra fee for using it.

I just checked, but there is no option for Paypal. Maybe you can contact the seller and transfer money via Paypal; this is also possible with Simon from Convoy on Aliexpress.

It must be a regional thing because Paypal is an option as payment options when I checkout with this light.

Interesting but true. I just changed the destination country on top of page to USA, and the Paypal logo just popped up. First time I experience region based Paypal option.

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Anyne know parameters of chargers?
How much lumens on max mode?

BTW I recived new MT09R and replacement drivers to my MT09R from group buy.

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smokuxx1987 wrote:

BTW I recived new MT09R and replacement drivers to my MT09R from group buy.

Nice, can you post some detailed pictures of the drivers?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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smokuxx1987 wrote:
Picture in this treat http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60893#comment-1344068

Thanks! Awesome! Thumbs UpBeer

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JasonWW wrote:
BlueSwordM wrote:
Oh yeah, finally.

For some reason, I thought Haikelite was going under, since Dale was not answering any of my emails regarding the fact that I payed for a replacement driver and lens for my Haikelite MT01.

Also, holy crap 24 000 lumens!
Are they bypassing every spring on their lights or what?!


HL is obviously over rating their lights again. They are not using the 4000K 70.2 that Texas_Ace was using. Plus TA’s measurement of 24k lumen was a little bit high if I remember correctly.

HL should be rating them closer to 17k to 18k as I think that’s the lower end of the range with all springs bypassed.

I think I read somewhere that HL will be using P2 bin emitters. If that’s the case, they should be getting 21k lumen sper Newlumen’s TA_tube measurements. That’s actually not far off from their 24k claim considering the majority of flashlight manufacturers way over specify their lumen ratings. It seems only Olight/Acebeam/Thrunite have been pretty spot on with their advertised lumens. I found even some premium brands like Zebralight overrate their lumens much more than that after testing it with my TA_tube.

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JasonWW wrote:
BlueSwordM wrote:
I still remember that Terry said the 5700k was 80CRI.

Not sure about the 4000k and 3000k at all.


Okay, so the 5700K 80CRI was what HL said they used on the factory lights. If so, then the new lights could definitely be using that.

To my knowledge HL never had the 4000K 80CRI. Those were hard to get emitters that TA found.

HL had a 4000k 80CRI option for the GB. I bought both the 4000k 80CRI and 5000k 70CRI. The 5000k version was 32.3% brighter than the 4000k.

I really liked the tint on the stock 4000k 80CRI, which was almost as good as my 4000k 219b 9050. The tint was actually closer to the BBL than the one TA was using from Arrow. But the Arrow 4000k was much better than the same 4000k 80CRI from Mouser which is horrendously yellow.

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