Which flashlight is the best combination of FLOODER-THROWER?

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Which flashlight is the best combination of FLOODER-THROWER?

Edit 1: Does anybody own ACEBEAM K60? Do you mind sharing your experience with it? How far does it illuminate in metres? Have you ever tested it? And lastly how is the flooding? Thank you.

Hello everyone,

I want to buy my very first flashlight. What I am looking for is a flashlight that has the best combination of flooder and thrower. But what is the best? Perhaps everyone will have their “best” regarding to their preferences. So the more opinions I get the better I can decide.

Here are my preferences:

1) A flashlight that can illuminate up to 1000 metres,
2) A flashlight that is also a good flooder so that I can also see near objects clearly up to 100 metres,
3) A flashlight company with a good customer support and technical support.

During my research I have found some flashlights.

I have read that;
ACEBEAM K70 has a design problem that results in short circuit,
ThruNite TN40S/TN42 has a bug while switching from normal modes to turbo.

ACEBEAM K60 seems like a good candidate but I am not sure about the throw. I have seen ThruNite TN40S is a really good combination but the bug while switching through modes made me thinking.

I am open to any suggestions.

Cheers.

Edited by: bariscan90 on 01/12/2018 - 06:12
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You want 1000m throw, and a flood beam?
Well….. that may be difficult.

Acebeam X65 will push lumens that far and have some flood, but do you want to actually SEE objects at that distance?
There are many lights that will throw 1km, but how much flood do you need?

Dedicated throwers don’t flood too well.

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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
You want 1000m throw, and a flood beam? Well….. that may be difficult.

No, no you understood me wrong. Up to 1000 metres. So it can be a flashlight that is a decent flooder with 500 metres throwing. I meant to give max limit for the throwing.

Cheers.

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Maybe some zoomie?

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fenix rc40?

I like warm lights and I can not lie

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So basically you want maximum flood at 500m?

-C8M3T2 XP-L HI neutral white
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Fenix tk75 is somewhere in between flood and throw.

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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
So basically you want maximum flood at 500m?

Sure it can be anything within the limit. I just wanted to put sone numbers in. I have seen ThruNite TN40S can illuminate 750 metres pretty good and is average-good flooder as well.

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simple answer there is no floody 1000m thrower for a single reflector light

for real 1000m you need about 70mm active diameter of the reflector with XHP35

a real deal would be Astrolux MF01 and MF02 in one light together

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Agro wrote:
Maybe some zoomie?

I am sorry, what is a Zoomie?

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puglife2 wrote:
fenix rc40?

Thank you I will look into it.

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koyotee wrote:
Fenix tk75 is somewhere in between flood and throw.

Thank you I will definetely look into this one as well.

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Lexel wrote:
simple answer there is no floody 1000m thrower for a single reflector light

for real 1000m you need about 70mm active diameter of the reflector with XHP35

a real deal would be Astrolux MF01 and MF02 in one light together

!{width:100%}http://www.metronixlaser.de/bilder/flashlight/Astrolux_MF02/IMG_4734.jpg!

Wow! That could be the coolest looking flashlight I have ever seen. I will definitely look at Astrolux.

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Ok I’m officially confused. Shocked

I am lost as to your needs. Is it long range throw, combined with mid range flood?
Or is it maximum flood at a decent range?

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-Ultrafire C8, one mode, strapped to possum rifle
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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
Ok I’m officially confused. Shocked

I am lost as to your needs. Is it long range throw, combined with mid range flood?
Or is it maximum flood at a decent range?

Haha, I am really sorry about confusing you. English is not my native language. Let me try to explain again.

I would like to have a flashlight that is not a like laser, only illuminates the far distance but also one that has a very nice beam profile so the light smootly lights up the near objects and as well as the distance. Hopefully this helps. Cheers.

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Ok,
Any high power, huge head multi-emitter will do.
Or something with an XHP70/70.2 in a large reflector also.
All the options we have mentioned above will fit the bill.

Just make sure you don’t buy a dedicated thrower!

-C8M3T2 XP-L HI neutral white
-KDLITKER C8.2 XHP50.2 neutral white
-Thorfire VG-10
-Maxtoch 2X Shooter, latest & greatest version
-Trustfire TR-J20
-Ultrafire C8, one mode, strapped to possum rifle
Small, but effective collection...
GT and Q8 coming.

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Convoy L6?

I don’t have one yet, but from what I have seen they appear to offer great throw and flood, and couldn’t be much better in terms of build quality, support, and reputation.

Beam me up!

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bariscan90 wrote:
Agro wrote:
Maybe some zoomie?

I am sorry, what is a Zoomie?


Zoomie is a light with an action called zooming – you adjust the beam width from wide and moderately bright to narrow and very intense.
They tend to be superb throwers (no spill to distract your eye, good throw-to-size) and superb flooders (very smooth beam) in the same package, but not without drawbacks:
  • the common zoomies are very inefficient in the throw mode – the beam is bright but narrower than that of a reflector light
  • unlike with reflector, you can have flood or throw, but never both at the same time. If you look far, you won’t see what’s under your feet.
  • often they have worse cooling than similarly sized reflector lights
  • typically you’re limited to using a single LED, so they won’t get close to the output of mega-flooders. No multi-led zoomie I’m aware of is good enough.

There are less common types that are better or worse in one way or another, I won’t elaborate on them now because I don’t see one that would work well for you.

Well, I don’t see a stock zoomie that would match the description, so if you want that route, you’re limited to modded lights. I’d suggest UniqueFire UF-1508 T75 with (dedomed?) XHP70.2.

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Zulumoose wrote:
Convoy L6?

Nice light but unfortunately 500m is past it’s useful range.
I’ve seen one of these in action and they kick ass:

https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_1236530.html

-C8M3T2 XP-L HI neutral white
-KDLITKER C8.2 XHP50.2 neutral white
-Thorfire VG-10
-Maxtoch 2X Shooter, latest & greatest version
-Trustfire TR-J20
-Ultrafire C8, one mode, strapped to possum rifle
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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
Ok,
Any high power, huge head multi-emitter will do.
Or something with an XHP70/70.2 in a large reflector also.
All the options we have mentioned above will fit the bill.

Just make sure you don’t buy a dedicated thrower!

Thank you mate.

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Agro wrote:
bariscan90 wrote:
Agro wrote:
Maybe some zoomie?

I am sorry, what is a Zoomie?


Zoomie is a light with an action called zooming – you adjust the beam width from wide and moderately bright to narrow and very intense.
They tend to be superb throwers (no spill to distract your eye, good throw-to-size) and superb flooders (very smooth beam) in the same package, but not without drawbacks:
  • the common zoomies are very inefficient in the throw mode – the beam is bright but narrower than that of a reflector light
  • unlike with reflector, you can have flood or throw, but never both at the same time. If you look far, you won’t see what’s under your feet.
  • often they have worse cooling than similarly sized reflector lights
  • in practice you’re limited to using a single LED, so they won’t get close to the output of mega-flooders

There are less common types that are better or worse in one way or another, I won’t elaborate on them now because I don’t see one that would work well for you.

Well, I don’t see a stock zoomie that would match the description, so if you want that route, you’re limited to modded lights. I’d suggest UniqueFire UF-1508 T75 with (dedomed?) XHP70.2.

Wow. Thank you very much Agro for getting into this hassle and giving me a perfect explanation of what it is. I really appreciate your time and effort on writing it.

I will look at what you recommended.

Cheers.

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https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_1236530.html

Highly recommended.

There is a 1.5km long pitch-dark area I go to really push a torches limits. From just over half way across, the Buffalo started to drop visible light on a building. I would say about 700m or just under. At the 500m mark, there is enough light to define your target. Nice range and flood.

-C8M3T2 XP-L HI neutral white
-KDLITKER C8.2 XHP50.2 neutral white
-Thorfire VG-10
-Maxtoch 2X Shooter, latest & greatest version
-Trustfire TR-J20
-Ultrafire C8, one mode, strapped to possum rifle
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GT and Q8 coming.

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Any light that has a 35 to 1 lux to lumen ratio.

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DIPSTIX wrote:
Any light that has a 35 to 1 lux to lumen ratio.

You mean like a domed C8 type thing?
35,000 lux and 1000 lumens? Not exact numbers, but is that what you meant?

-C8M3T2 XP-L HI neutral white
-KDLITKER C8.2 XHP50.2 neutral white
-Thorfire VG-10
-Maxtoch 2X Shooter, latest & greatest version
-Trustfire TR-J20
-Ultrafire C8, one mode, strapped to possum rifle
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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_1236530.html

Highly recommended.

There is a 1.5km long pitch-dark area I go to really push a torches limits. From just over half way across, the Buffalo started to drop visible light on a building. I would say about 700m or just under. At the 500m mark, there is enough light to define your target. Nice range and flood.

Very nice! I will look into it. Thank you.

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bariscan90 wrote:
Throw me in to darkness wrote:
https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_1236530.html

Highly recommended.

There is a 1.5km long pitch-dark area I go to really push a torches limits. From just over half way across, the Buffalo started to drop visible light on a building. I would say about 700m or just under. At the 500m mark, there is enough light to define your target. Nice range and flood.

Very nice! I will look into it. Thank you.

No worries. I can genuinely recommended that light as I’ve seen it in action, and although there are many that fit your needs the Buffalo really impressed me. You won’t be disappointed if you get one.

-C8M3T2 XP-L HI neutral white
-KDLITKER C8.2 XHP50.2 neutral white
-Thorfire VG-10
-Maxtoch 2X Shooter, latest & greatest version
-Trustfire TR-J20
-Ultrafire C8, one mode, strapped to possum rifle
Small, but effective collection...
GT and Q8 coming.

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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
bariscan90 wrote:
Throw me in to darkness wrote:
https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_1236530.html

Highly recommended.

There is a 1.5km long pitch-dark area I go to really push a torches limits. From just over half way across, the Buffalo started to drop visible light on a building. I would say about 700m or just under. At the 500m mark, there is enough light to define your target. Nice range and flood.

Very nice! I will look into it. Thank you.

No worries. I can genuinely recommended that light as I’ve seen it in action, and although there are many that fit your needs the Buffalo really impressed me. You won’t be disappointed if you get one.

I cannot seem to find their company website to browse their products. Hmm.

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BLF Q8 would seem like a good starting point. Whether it will fit your needs is for you to determine, but in any case it is a very good light you’ll be happy to have.

Since you don’t have any lights, it is very unlikely that you’ll find the perfect one right away…

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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
DIPSTIX wrote:
Any light that has a 35 to 1 lux to lumen ratio.

You mean like a domed C8 type thing?
35,000 lux and 1000 lumens? Not exact numbers, but is that what you meant?

Like 175k lux and 5000lm. I’m all about performance.
I own the TN40svn which does 500k lux and 9000lms which I feels very throwy. I think 35 lux to 1 lumen is a great combination. Something with just a little more throw than the Acebeam K60 would be perfect.

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You are asking one light to do two very different things.

Why not get two flashlights?

A BLF Q8 will do number 2 reasonably well. It isn’t perfect, but I doubt you can get a better flooder for less than $45.00

One downside is the Q8 requires 4 “married” 18650 batteries. The batteries in the Q8 shouldn’t be used elsewhere. They need to stay as a matched quad.

That leaves a lot of room in your budget for a thrower.

My light with the most throw is a Convoy L6. For 1km of throw, you are going to need a bigger light. I don’t have any suggestions. I’m new at this.

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Andrew_Debbie wrote:

My light with the most throw is a Convoy L6. For 1km of throw, you are going to need a bigger light. I don’t have any suggestions. I’m new at this.

I had a convoy L6. Solidly built light for the price.

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