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Edit: TLF is UP!! Is taschenlampen-forum.de down?

Has somebody also problems to reach the German http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de ?

The site asks for the log in and then nothing.

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djozz wrote:
BLF has a blog for when it is down (www.budgetlightforum.blogspot.com), sb (mr.admin) usually writes a message there when the site is down expectedly or unexpectedly, and it has a simple chatbox. I actually think that not many BLF-members know about it.
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It says

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TLF Wartung”

Wartung = Maintenance

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Ok, https://www.seitedown.de sagt sie ist down.

Seems DSGVO hit them.

Thanks L4M4,

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It was announced from Frank, the owner of the Forum since 2 days ago

He also mentioned he will work as fast as possible Thumbs Up

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TLF site admin (Frank) posted that he’d have to do some technical maintenance and TLF could be down for some time. He didn’t mention DSGVO.

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I'm thinking DSGVO hit abload.de yesterday, because I couldn't log into the site for quite a while.

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I can login to abload.de, with no problems.

At first login after the 25th May you have to read the new DSGVO privacy changes (page shows up automatically) and confirm these changes.

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koef3 wrote:

I can login to abload.de, with no problems.

Yeah, today is no problem.

koef3 wrote:

At first login after the 25th May you have to read the new DSGVO privacy changes (page shows up automatically) and confirm these changes.

I couldn't do this for many hours yesterday.

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I could imagine they might also want to implement SSL encryption along with any changes that occur due to the DSGVO. However, the website is still down and most probably some of TLF‘s heavy users may already get withdrawal symptoms. Big Smile

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and most probably some of TLF‘s heavy users may already get withdrawal symptoms. Big Smile

Yes! Big Smile
Also, my pics here are gone.

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Well, lets just pray TLF will come back to life.

Concerning DSGVO a.k.a GDPR:

Here is an excerpt of what has happened to German media/websites due to the new DSGVO. It’s a total disaster and some websites have been completely shut down in order to avoid charges for noncompliance. Facepalm

https://www.heise.de/security/meldung/l-f-Das-DSGVO-Absurditaetenkabinett-4057866.html

Some US newspaper websites have locked out European IP addresses in order to avoid charges. Yeelight lamps cannot be controlled with their app anymore. The list of absurdities becomes endless…

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There was a LOT of time to check the new DSGVO laws before they came into force and change the sites to comply with these. It seems a little strange if webmasters taken suddenly down their sites to make these as fast as possible DSGVO compatible. If you follow the existing privacy laws you should have no problems with the DSGVO anyway.

@The_Driver: Especially for this reason I hosted my pics for this and other forums on an external picture hoster. Also I have my pictures saved on my computer to re-upload the pics to another hoster if abload.de has to close eventually.

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Monday evening and still down.

DSGVO vs Taschenlampen-Forum

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joechina wrote:
Monday evening and still down.

DSGVO vs Taschenlampen-Forum

1 : 0

Hmh maybe Sad

I´m a little bit insecure

When trying to open the Messer Forum another German Forum handling with flashlights
the site is also down in connection with a message in reference to DSGVO Shocked

https://www.messerforum.net/forum.php

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DrDevil wrote:
joechina wrote:
Monday evening and still down.

DSGVO vs Taschenlampen-Forum

1 : 0

Hmh maybe Sad

I´m a little bit insecure

When trying to open the Messer Forum another German Forum handling with flashlights
the site is also down in connection with a message in reference to DSGVO Shocked

https://www.messerforum.net/forum.php

I was just able to open the link to the „German Knife Forum“ you mentioned before. However, the TLF website is still down and I begin to wish there was somekind of an „official“ interim statement from one of the TLF adminstrators here. At least a short statement about the expected minimum downtime would have been helpful to get a feeling of the actual extent of work to do. As far as I recognized things, the TLF website has been taken offline on Friday morning last week.

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I was just able to open the link to the „German Knife Forum“ you mentioned before. However, the TLF website is still down and I begin to wish there was somekind of an „official“ interim statement from one of the TLF adminstrators here. At least a short statement about the expected minimum downtime would have been helpful to get a feeling of the actual extent of work to do. As far as I recognized things, the TLF website has been taken offline on Friday morning last week.

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That was also my thoughts
I‘m quite sure a number of members of the TLF are Reading here
And a Few words of one of the Moderators here would be nice

As far as I can See this is the only Place to get some Information

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Was there any information to the users before the TLF was shut down?

If so, what was in it?

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Yes, there was a note at the top of the page:

Attention, shortly there will be maintanance of the forum

Shortly we will be doing extensive adjustments and maintenance of the forum. If necessary you will need to do without the forum for some time. I promise to hurry, but you got to do what you got to do.

Please don’t panic, even when only an empty page appears. No data will be lost. Thank you for your understanding.

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I didn’t expect such a long down time, now we know how addicted feels like. I hope they will restart soon. It‘s good to have no „must have“ feeling for some days, if no one show new flashlights.

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Well, it might be a good thing for BLF, more visitors and new members Smile

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New members most likely. Like me… Same nickname here, btw.

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I think I can see the German authorities act a bit OCD on the new rules. From a Dutch point of view, anyway. But better OCD than not at all. In the Netherlands the failed major of the city of Utrecht was appointed to head the Autoriteit Persoonsgegevens. His resume could be read like “the wrong man in the wrong place”. His board of directors is almost completely vacant. Because being a professionel politician, he knows little to nothing about pricavy, but everthing about how to prevent people from sawing the legs from under his chair.
The new rules were already known for months, but only on THE day itself it was made public that the Autoriteit Persoonsgegevens did not have the means, the people, or the knowledge to execute the new privacy rules. Facepalm
I hope TLF will be on line again very soon.

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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I think I can see the German authorities act a bit OCD on the new rules. From a Dutch point of view, anyway. But better OCD than not at all. In the Netherlands the failed major of the city of Utrecht was appointed to head the Autoriteit Persoonsgegevens. His resume could be read like “the wrong man in the wrong place”. His board of directors is almost completely vacant. Because being a professionel politician, he knows little to nothing about pricavy, but everthing about how to prevent people from sawing the legs from under his chair. The new rules were already known for months, but only on THE day itself it was made public that the Autoriteit Persoonsgegevens did not have the means, the people, or the knowledge to execute the new privacy rules. Facepalm I hope TLF will be on line again very soon.

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OCD = Obsessive–compulsive disorder? Don’t worry Henk4U2…verschillende landen, dezelfde stront Silly Wink Your story could have also happened over here…where mismanagement and corrupt politicians are part on the daily agenda. Just have a look at this huge POS called “BER” a.k.a. Berlin-Brandenburg Int’l Airport. Ever since they started this project in 2006 there were more mistakes than anyone could count up to. Until today this airport is more likely an unfinished ruin with billions of Euros dumped in some big shot’s pockets without any charges or consequences and there’s no end to be seen. So, it’s no surprise that the DSGVO is just another new law they invented to sue ordinary people while those big shots and lawyers rub their hands and couldn’t care less about data privacy. Facepalm

What good is the DSGVO if our chancellor literally says “Data are raw materials of the 21st century” and “Here we must now be careful that data protection does not gain the upper hand over economic processing.”?
Source: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Merkel-Daten-sind-Rohstoffe-des-...

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Well I hope the TLF is going back online soon. I have some PA lights here. I can’t return them to the owner or the next member without the TLF because I don’t have the address outside the forum. Shocked

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Dralf wrote:
Well I hope the TLF is going back online soon. I have some PA lights here. I can’t return them to the owner or the next member without the TLF because I don’t have the address outside the forum. Shocked

Maybe „amaretto“ knows the right addresses? He‘s the one who usually organises the passarounds.

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The work on the DSGVO is more extensive than intended. Frank is working on solutions but unfortunately it will still take some time.
Sorry, we can’t give you an exact date.

Thanks to the BLF admin for the opportunity to post here. Thumbs Up

Many greetings from your TLF team.
Bluzie

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Bluzie wrote:
The work on the DSGVO is more extensive than intended. Frank is working on solutions but unfortunately it will still take some time.
Sorry, we can’t give you an exact date.

Thanks to the BLF admin for the opportunity to post here. Thumbs Up

Many greetings from your TLF team.
Bluzie

Thank you very much for this interim status, Bluzie! I guess we all understand the constraints of DSGVO that website admins now have to deal with. IMHO most important to know is that these changes are still work in progress and that we don’t have to have serious concerns about the future of our forum. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that viable solutions will soon be found and TLF can come back to life. Smile

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What I don’t really understand is, that german privacy law was already very tight before DSGVO.

What I do understand is, that existing users must be made to positively acknowledge the new privacy terms (“Datenschutzerklärung”).

In the past, many websites just declared “We have changed our privacy policy. By continuing to use our website, you agree with the new terms.” My personal opinion is, that this is not possible for the transition to the DSGVO.

So now it must be something like “We have changed our privacy policy. To continue using our website, you have to read, understand and agree to the new terms. After logging in, you must read the the new privacy policy. After reading, you can choose to either agree and continue using our website or to cancel your account/registration/membership/whatever.”

This is my personal opinion. I am not a lawyer. (Dies ist meine persönliche Meinung. Ich bin kein Anwalt.)

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Bluzie wrote:
The work on the DSGVO is more extensive than intended. Frank is working on solutions but unfortunately it will still take some time.
Sorry, we can’t give you an exact date.

Thanks to the BLF admin for the opportunity to post here. Thumbs Up

Many greetings from your TLF team.
Bluzie


Thanks for the feedback.

Maybe Frank could set up a simple static interim start page with a a few words on it? So people visiting TLF wouldn’t see just a password request and nothing else.

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Bluzie wrote:
The work on the DSGVO is more extensive than intended. Frank is working on solutions but unfortunately it will still take some time.
Sorry, we can’t give you an exact date.

Thanks to the BLF admin for the opportunity to post here. Thumbs Up

Many greetings from your TLF team.
Bluzie

Many thanks for this information.

Regards

Ulrich

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Hi Bluzie

Good to hear in this place a ´official´ statement Thumbs Up

Good luck, I hope TLF is back soon Smile

The proposal from light-wolff is a good idea, I would say

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