(BLF) Sofirn Q8 V1.5: The XPL HI monster, DIY parts + Extended 8x18650 tubes GB Interest List

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JasonWW wrote:
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Is it possible to just purchase a tube and carrier, but not the extension tube and carrier? 

They seem to only sell them in sets. Meaning 2 tubes and 2 carriers.

 

Seems like a very limiting approach.  Surely, there are multitudes more that would prefer to keep the original lights form factor, but have the option to mod to 2S and 4S voltages.  Only a few will want a giant sized tube light in comparison.

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

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Is it possible to just purchase a tube and carrier, but not the extension tube and carrier? 


They seem to only sell them in sets. Meaning 2 tubes and 2 carriers.

 


Seems like a very limiting approach.  Surely, there are multitudes more that would prefer to keep the original lights form factor, but have the option to mod to 2S and 4S voltages.  Only a few will want a giant sized tube light in comparison.


I would like a single tube and carrier, but alas, they say they only sell them in sets of 2 tubes and 2 carriers. Tired

Maybe they will change their minds later.

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I would like one set of tubes and carriers for my BLF Q8. Manythanks

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I just hope the tubes will fit the BLF Lantern. 4 batteries in the stock Q8 tubes is plenty enough runtime for me, but would be great to have 8 cells in the lantern. Would last the whole week camping.
I’m really hoping too. I think it’s not a good sign that Sofirn made their own brand Q8 with a slightly different thread from the BLF Q8, even though they are the OEM for both lights (they made the BLF Q8 for Thorfire). If you look at their AliExpress webstore, you’ll see that they also have other SRK clone lights for sale there, that presumably have different threads as well. Facepalm

Sofirn has to realize these tubes will be much more practical in the lantern. (generally speaking)

As far as the Sofirn Q8 and the BLF Q8. I have both sitting here in front of me. I see no difference in the threading itself, and they both thread on to each other fine. What I do see is, the Sofirn tube is threaded slightly shorter than the BLF tube, and doesn’t make contact on the blf head.

Measuring from the lip just above the o-ring to the top, the Sofirn tube is right around 1mm shorter.

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If we know the difference between the two flashlights and tubes, I think we should suggest them to make only tubes for the BLF Q8 and change the design of the Sofirn Q8 head and original tube to the same threading.

I think they (Sofirn, Thorfire, Utorch) sold much more BLF Q8 than Sofirn Q8.
And the longer threaded tubes fit to each flashlight.

Its not worth, designing 2 different tubes and different flashlight heads!

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When I am making a part or a whole flashlight out in my shop on my lathe, it is I and I alone that decides what is worth doing. Doesn’t Sofirn have that same luxury? I mean, it’s THEIR business after all… pretty sure they have a reason that makes sense to them for doing it the way they are.

They DID say the tubes would be ready weeks ago, but here we are, waiting. I no longer have the cells ready for my 2 sets, so I will once again have to order cells if/when the tubes come through. Of the 16 Samsung 30Q’s I had sitting waiting on these there are only 4 left. It is what it is I reckon.

To be honest, I’m about ready to just make my own and be done with it…

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Please add me to the list: 2 sets for the BLF Q8, 1 set for the Sofirn Q8.

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Yes, Dale they have shure a reason for two different tubes.
But i am curious what it is.
I see some backsides:
- logistics of parts is higher
- selling to customers is difficulter
no one part fits all.

What is wrong on the org Q8 tubing?

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IIRC the original BLF Q8 tube works on both but not sure how waterproof it is due to O ring design.

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I know when I build something and then get a chance to re-build it I always tweak something, going for that little bit better…. perhaps this is what they did, applied a bit of a tweak for better water tight seal or whatever. So now there is the old design and the new design. Wink

If I’m not mistaken they made the tube a little longer so it could capture the carrier at the positive end, each subsequent section captures it’s carrier, you can’t load multiple carriers from the open end this way so I am not sure why they opted to go this route. But in doing so, perhaps the tube is just that much longer that it needs to really be made differently to fit the 2 versions of this light.

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Back in the day, ThorFire/Sofirn I believe came to us, looking for ideas for the next gen, or add-on's. Our original proposal was for a mini Q8, like using a quad 14500 setup, but The Miller was the backer of that idea. I think Sofirn came up with the extensions on their own, but also, there was always some critiques against the current battery tube and interest in a carrier based design, but early on, we figured that would be an increase in cost.

Funny in that they basically did build a mini Q8 with the SP36, which I much prefer over a quad AA/14500 light. I think the SP36 was a great decision, but the tube replacement/extension for the Q8, not so sure about, but it's got some interest here.

For me, I'd love to see a replacement.compatible head for a Q8. My thinking was go big - maybe a 90-110 mm wide triple SMO to get lots of lumens and throw, retro to a Shocker for example. The cost of the head wouldn't be much cheaper than the full light of course, sorry to say... Other option would be a wide head to fit maybe 5x quads, 20 LED's total. Dale basically did something similar in a custom mod.

I miss the Shocker - ~4500 lumens that could do 500 kcd, w/dedomed XM-L2's. The Shocker had basically 3 C8 size reflectors, so always wanted a decent cost moddable Shocker but made lighter, possibly as compact as possible. The "BTU" company os gone for a while now and never did get to building the rumored Shocker II.

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My Shocker has 9V MT-G2’s in it, I love the big lug! It’s built like a tank and the triple reflectors are exquisite. Surprisingly tight beam even from the largest Cree emitter.

I actually came up with the idea to do the large head mated into the original Sofirn Q8 head because of the carriers. I wanted to bring attention to the Sofirn lights because of their consistent quality and the stackable tubes to add run time seemed like a logical choice for a big monster light. I still don’t know if the carrier’s they are making can handle the current requirements but I do still intend to find out. I tend to forget that the big aluminum head screws into the bezel threads and literally fills the entire void where the reflectors and MCPCB once were. Two screw holes in the emitter shelf of the Q8 that once held the reflector from turning now anchor the big aluminum head. It’s a big chunk of aluminum, and it works. I’ve always wondered why they take so much material out of the big head lights, when they could leave mass in to aid the thermal design? Mine is over 3 lbs, sure it can be heavy, especially if you’re injured or not feeling well, but a sling will take care of that or a lanyard will add insurance against droppage… I would love to see Sofirn step up to the plate and make us a big hoss light to compete with the big boys. Smile

FWIW, the Ham’r is 101mm diameter at the bezel.

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The Q8 came without carryer because it should be as near as possible like the SRK design.
I has voted for carryers but there was no Chance to get them due to the starting point as better SRK.

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My BLF Q8 will no longer ramp.. I can’t figure out if something is wrong with it or if I am not doing the right thing to get it into ramp mode. I don’t know how it got out of ramp mode. Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I couldn’t find where to look for this info or request it.

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Blassmaster wrote:
My BLF Q8 will no longer ramp.. I can’t figure out if something is wrong with it or if I am not doing the right thing to get it into ramp mode. I don’t know how it got out of ramp mode. Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I couldn’t find where to look for this info or request it.

Thanks,
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What is it doing?
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Interested, should I send a PM?
I have the Sofirn, I just got it on Sunday.

Me love lights lonng tyme!

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It will go to full brightness from off and also can go to different flashing and dim settings. When I got it, it would ramp from off if I held the button and it would also ramp back down. I am not sure if I did something to it or what happened but I just want to get it back to that setting where it will ramp up and down. I have tried different button pushes for mode changes that I read in the instructions but no success.

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Have you tried to reset it:

Ramping mode, From OFF or ON : 3x click > 2x click > 2x click > press and hold 1-2 seconds will blink 4 times to confirm reset.

MODEs(not in ramping mode), From OFF : Click + Click and hold for 3 seconds > 2x click > 2x click > press and hold 1-2 seconds will blink 4 times to confirm reset.

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Blassmaster wrote:
It will go to full brightness from off and also can go to different flashing and dim settings. When I got it, it would ramp from off if I held the button and it would also ramp back down. I am not sure if I did something to it or what happened but I just want to get it back to that setting where it will ramp up and down. I have tried different button pushes for mode changes that I read in the instructions but no success.

Brian


I really don’t know what your describing, but if it’s not ramping, I’ll assume it’s in mode sets. To get back to ramping you go into the menu by holding the button for about 3 seconds. It will first go to turbo, then to strobe, then into the menu, release the button. You will see it blink twice fast followed by a single slow blink. At this point you need to click twice. Make sure you see the confirmation blinks as you click the button. Now just let it finish going through the menu. It will end with 4 fast blinks. Now it should be back in ramping.

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Restore to Factory Settings:

This is a feature, undocumented in the user manual, that will restore all configuration settings to factory defaults, in the state as originally shipped. It comes in handy in case there’s any doubts of how the light is configured. To access this feature, while displaying the firmware number (dbl click for voltage display, then dbl click for temperature display, then dbl click for version display), press&hold the switch until the light blinks quickly – this acknowledges the configuration settings have been reset to factor defaults.

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I’m so happy now. I followed your instructions with no success, I did it again and didn’t think it worked then it was off and I held the button and a ramping it came. I never in my life thought I would be so happy to see a flashlight get gradually brighter, then gradually dimmer. Thank you AguassissiM and JasonWW

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I am in for a BLF Q8 extended 8×18650 tube (x2)

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dyates wrote:
I am in for a BLF Q8 extended 8×18650 tube (x2)

Putting X2 at the end is confusing. 1 set means 2 tubes and 2 carriers for 8 batteries. So you want 1 set, right?
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Are these tubes still being produced? If they will come out for sure I might buy a BLF Q8 and build a 4 XHP50 or XHP70 light. It is just taking Sofirn some time to design the extension tubes and battery carriers properly, right?

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Skylight wrote:
Are these tubes still being produced? If they will come out for sure I might buy a BLF Q8 and build a 4 XHP50 or XHP70 light. It is just taking Sofirn some time to design the extension tubes and battery carriers properly, right?

It seems they are past the design phase, hence the videos of the product. There might still be some tweaking going on. I’m sure they are busy producing flashlights trying to catch up any back orders due to the holidays. We see this every year. Plus we still have the Chinese New Year coming up in February. So if they haven’t done a full production run by early Dec, and I doubt they have, then they might not have time for these new projects until mid Feb. We just have to be patient and see how it goes. Situation normal.
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JasonWW wrote:
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I am in for a BLF Q8 extended 8×18650 tube (x2)
Putting X2 at the end is confusing. 1 set means 2 tubes and 2 carriers for 8 batteries. So you want 1 set, right?

I am in for 2 sets. 4 tubes and 4 carriers

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I'm not sure if Sofirn still pursuits the XHP50.2 version of their Q8 when reading this...

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1445302#comment-1445302

 

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Wow, I did not notice the video. I’m in for one set of tubes and battery carriers for the BLF Q8, then. Just need to get me a BLF Q8! Big Smile

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Me interesa set de tubo blf q8 18650

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Machining wise, the extended tubes is a very easy path to take. They need just a bit thicker aluminum tube stock to accommodate the female end of the tube.

One tube with multiple reflectors is not really an economic alternative. The tube, cap and battery carrier are probably 15% the manufacturing cost of the entire flashlight (without betteries).

A more interesting path would be interchangeable lenses. Just a comment because I don’t know how much or how far it will convert a flodder into a thrower and vice versa.

Has anybody done a thread about how flashlights are made? Particularly bodies? I was in manufacturing and I can assemble some videos and explanations if you guys like that.

As a side note…..I was in contact with Sofirn last night. Two words….VERY IMPRESSED with their customer service.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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Spartans - the videos sound great! There hasn't been much posted here, if anything, on manufacturing.

There are options for lenses on these lights, but switching from one to the other might be too involved for some. A flip down type, hinged, might be better but it's been done before, sold as options for some lights. You cant improve throw, least I know of, but you could have a coated lens to make it more into a flooder. Many of us here use DC-Fix (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42208) as a diffuser to turn a light into a flooder.

That's great to hear about the Sofirn service btw.

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I have found my Sofirn lights to be well made and have not had any customer service issues. That said, I can’t really back “customer service” because I was told weeks ago (months ago?) that these extension tubes would be ready in a few days, then next week, and again next week, and here we are, all the promises have been made and I obviously went a long way on a specific modification to the Q8 Just Because Of These Tubes… nothing yet by way of information as to when the tubes will actually happen or if they will.

I too was in contact directly with Sofirn, it was due to this contact that I spent over $200 building the 17 emitter Ham’r. And here I am, waiting on the extensions. I’ve spoken with no less than 3 representatives, have been given assurances it would be “soon” and well, we know how many cells that added to my behemoth…. so yeah, it’s a little difficult to sing customer service praises under the present circumstances. Wink

Edit: Double checking my PM’s with Sofirn, first contact on this was Oct 28, 2018. Just saying…

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