Zebralight SC700d – A Short Technical Review (lumens/runtime graphs/temperature/PWM/current draw)

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Zebralight SC700d – A Short Technical Review (lumens/runtime graphs/temperature/PWM/current draw)

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Zebralight SC700d on the right, compared to a SC600Fd IV Plus (middle) and a SC53Fc (left).

 

This short technical review will include:

  1. lumen readings
  2. several runtime graphs
  3. temperature readings
  4. PWM
  5. current draw on high and also on off (parasitic drain)
  6. anomaly with Samsung 48G

This review will NOT include beam shots (it’s just not my thing).  OK, I finally included some - see the end of this review.

 

Let’s start with lumens measurement. 

I’ll use my Texas Ace Calibrated Lumens Tube, which has been checked for accuracy with a sphere calibrated Convoy S2+ from BLF member maukka.

Using the Zebralight recommended Samsung INR21700-40T, we see that the SC700d on “high” is right at Zebralight’s spec of 3,000 lumens. Note the meter’s display is on a X10 scale. At 30 seconds, I measured 2,930 lumens. Damn, I love this tube every time I use it. You gotta get one.

 

Note that the Samsung INR21700-48G produced very similar turn-on values over 30 seconds (different by only 1% from the Samsung 40T). Furthermore, the following graphs will show that both batteries have similar runtime characteristics.  I don’t think the lower continuous current rating of the 48G will make much difference. 

 

Again using the Texas Ace Lumens Tube, I checked the “medium” 583 lumens setting (Zebralight spec):

Turn-on was at 570 lumens (2% difference). 

30 seconds at 560 lumens (4% difference).

The Lumens Tube is generally considered accurate to within 5%.

I conclude that Zebralight’s claimed lumens output is accurate.

 

 Runtime Graphs:

Note 1:  Because Zebralight’s claimed output levels are close to the Texas Ace Calibrated Lumens Tube, I’ve decided to use Zebralight’s specs on the graphs. Therefore, all lumen values on the graphs are derived from Zebralight’s specs.

Note 2: The SC700d will eventually drop down to a much lower light level (1% or lower) and stay there many more hours - much longer than my patience to run the test.  So, the end of the graphs does not mean the light turned off.

First, we will use the Samsung INR21700-40T, which is recommended and sold by Zebralight (where I got mine).  This was capacity tested on an Xtar Dragon VP4 Plus, resulting in a capacity of 4,009mAh (right at the manufacturer spec of 4,000mah).

 

 

The following graph is for high (3,000 lumens). There was no cooling – the light was placed on the floor-pan of my shower, along with my data logger (REED Instruments SD-1128). Test done at room temp (75F). A large blanket was placed over the glass shower doors, to produce my dark testing cave. Here we see that thermal regulation causes the initial output (3,000 lumens) to quickly dive to about 900 lumens (where it settles).

 

Again, at room temp (75 degrees F) on high (3,000 lumens). Here we use active cooling, a clip-on fan pointed at the light. This makes a BIG difference in runtime and lumens. We have a MUCH SHORTER runtime, but a much higher output, settling at about 2,000 lumens. The cost of a continuous 2,000 lumens is a 43 minute runtime. It's nice to know that Zebralights won't just shut down and leave you in the dark. Instead, they will throttle way down and give you plenty of warning time.

 

Still using the 40T, the SC700d on high, outside at 45 degrees F (7.2C). There were wind gusts, for more active cooling. The variable wind gusts show that the SC700d adjusts its output often.

 

Outside again, on high (still using the 40T). This time, instead of wind gusts (there were none), I used a clip-on fan outside, with temp at 43 degrees F (6.1C). Seems that a consistent fan blowing on the SC700d allows a much higher output in brightness - with a much shorter runtime (27 minutes).


 

I'll temporarily switch to the Samsung INR21700-48G, a higher capacity battery, but with a lower continuous amp rating than the 40T. 

The difference between the 40T & 48G is:

40T

  30A continuous

 capacity 4,000 mAh

48G:

  9.6A continuous

  35A pulse

  capacity 4,800 mAh

Here, on high, we get a longer runtime of about 28 minutes (compared to the 40T battery). The 48G was also capacity tested on an Xtar Dragon VP4 Plus (results 4,852mAh). Manufacturer spec 4,800mAh. This was indoors (75 degrees F), no active cooling.

 

Here’s, on high, the 48G with active cooling at room temp of 75 degrees F (again, a clip-on fan pointed at the light). We get a longer ANSI runtime of a bout 15 minutes (compared to the 40T with cooling), due to the 48G’s higher capacity.

 

Back to the Samsung 40T, at 945 lumens, no cooling. Test done at room temp (75F).


 

945 lumens with the 40T, with active cooling (clip-on fan pointed at the light). Test done at room temp (75F).

 

At 192 lumens (M1) with the Samsung 48G. Stable output for 14 hours. Test done at room temp (75F).


 

For the last SC700d graph, I used the 583 lumens setting, with the Samsung 48G. This is the highest brightness level that does NOT use thermal regulation (PID).  As expected, a relatively flat output (in this case, for 4.3 hours).  Test done at room temp (75F).

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NOT SEEN on the SC700d is the thermal hunting/oscillation that was noted on my SC600Fd IV Plus. Note that the graph below and above are at similar brightness levels. What's significant - is the SC600Fd used PID at 557 lm, where the SC700Fd does not at 583 lm.

 

 Let's look at temperature readings, at the head and body.

 

 

Below we have temperature readings (every minute) over 13 minutes (on high). This is with the default PID setting (out-of-the-box). 115 degrees Fahrenheit at the body was the highest measured. Very warm, but not too hot to hold.  Note, the light was placed on a table (tail stand), so there is no active cooling. Test done at room temp (75F).

The two highlighted readings in Celsius are 50/46


 

The next set of data is with the PID intentionally programmed to its lowest value (-5C). This lowered the highest temperature at the body by about 4 degrees Fahrenheit (from 115F to 111F).

The two highlighted readings in Celsius are 46/44


 

And finally, here's the PID raised to its maximum +5C.  At six minutes, the light felt uncomfortably hot to my touch. Of course this is subjective and everyone has there own tolerances to heat.  Personally, I'm going to leave mine at -5C.

The two highlighted readings in Celsius are 54/51

 

PWM

Using an oscilloscope (and optical sensor), I did not see any obvious PWM on the SC700d (as expected). HOWEVER, there was a noticeable large sawtooth waveform on M2 (52 lumens), at 35.7Khz. That's a pretty big swing in output. I did not see this on the other five default brightness levels. DC coupling. Does anyone have theories on why this shows up on only one level? The optical sensor was an OSRAM BPW34S PIN photodiode.

 

 

Triple clicking from off activates strobe at 16.5hz (Zebralight spec is19hz).

 

Current draw on high.

I measured a consistent 8.1 amps at turn-on (high). But WAIT.  With this many amps, I'm suspicious there may be resistance in the test leads (and contact points), and that the 8.1A reading could be lower than actual. To check my suspicion, I'll do something a bit unorthodox. Let's see how much the brightness level drops while I'm measuring current. I measured the current again while the light was actually on the Texas Ace Calibrated Lumens Tube. The result from the lumens tube was 2,450 lumens (I get the expected 3,000 lumens with tail cap placed back on). OK, so the Fluke test leads and meter are dropping the brightness level by 18.3%. We can use this value to interpolate current draw. Doing some basic math, if the more realistic current on high is about 10A, then subtracting 18.3% gives us close to my original current reading 8.1A. Therefore, I think 10 amps is a more reasonable estimate on what the light is actually pulling on high. If you search around this forum and YouTube, you'll see that measuring flashlight tail-cap current is a bit science and a bit art.

 

Off Current (parasitic drain):

Measured 24ua (verified with two DMMs).

 

EDIT UPDATE:

I've discovered one anomaly with the Samsung INR21700-48G. If using the 48G, I noticed that lightly shaking the SC700d can result in the light intermittently turning off or changing to a lower brightness level - as though there's an intermittent connection. I could NOT duplicate this with Zebralight's recommended Samsung 40T. So what's going on? At first glance, it appears both the 40T and 48G are physically the same.

 

 

However, further examination reveals that the + terminal on the 48G is much more recessed (lower) than the 40T.  Well there's the problem. At the top of the light's battery tube are the six springy pogo-type pins for the positive contact. Those springy pins are pretty short and won't have as much of a solid contact if the batterie's positive contact is lower. 

48G on the right.

SOLUTION:  I added a blob of solder (just the right amount) to the plus terminal of the 48G. I can no longer duplicate the problem. Furthermore, I can now charge the 48G on my Xtar Dragon VP4 Plus without having to use a spacer.

 

Edit Update:  There were several requests for beam shots. Not normally my thing. Ultimately, after several tries to get something that looked the same as it does to my eyes, I think a video worked best. Below, one photo taken of a garage door, which is pretty close to how it looks to my eyes.  The amount of spill from the center spot is pretty accurate in the photo. Then there is the YouTube video, which I think shows it best. Yes, there is a slight greenish tint around the center spot.

 

 YouTube video:

 

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Edited by: Terry Oregon on 11/15/2019 - 17:23
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Excellent review, thanks. I appreciated the graphs and analysis. Strange that PWM is present only on M2. The waveform certainly seems similar to the other lights you examined in your optical sensors review, found in your signature.

Not being an electronics expert myself, what are the units of the y-axis in your optical sensor graphs? And is the difference in peak and trough the light switching on and off?

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Awesome review!!!!

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This is fantastic, thanks!

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dmsoule wrote:
Not being an electronics expert myself, what are the units of the y-axis in your optical sensor graphs? And is the difference in peak and trough the light switching on and off?

The oscilloscope waveform graphs are voltage (Y) over time (X). The voltage is merely the output of the sensor itself - defined by how bright the light is. The actual unit of time is dependent on the time scale setting on the scope. Same for voltage. So both may be different for each measurement. And yes, a clean square wave represents the light turning off, then back on, usually too fast to see with the naked eye (in most cases), unless it's strobe. 

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Thanks a lot for the review. The runtime graphs are excellent and they are one of the very few ZL reviews to actually include them. The thermal regulation looks great and 2,000 steady lumens is really impressive under the right cooling conditions.

I must say I’m almost sold, but I’d love to see some outdoor beamshots first. Big Smile

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Looks like a nice 21700 light.
But considering the light only has 900lm output (turbo doesn’t count) and for me Zebra is mostly known for extreme PWM, I’ll skip this light.

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will34 wrote:
I must say I’m almost sold, but I’d love to see some outdoor beamshots first. :D

 

Baby it's cold outside - and wet and rainy up here in the Pacific Northwest - so I can't motivate myself to go outside for beam shots - and I'm not as bothered by tint variations as some. I assume the "other" forum will have beamshots up soon. I wanted to focus on the technical stuff I'm good at.

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. . . and for me Zebra is mostly known for extreme PWM, I'll skip this light.

 

Are more recent Zebralights (say the last 2-3 years) known for PWM?  Although I've seen some minor ripple, I haven't detected any obvious PWM on my other three Zebralights (SC600fd IV Plus, SC600w III, SC53Fc).

 

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so whats the conclusion?

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Terry Oregon wrote:

ZoomieFan wrote:
. . . and for me Zebra is mostly known for extreme PWM, I’ll skip this light.

 


Are more recent Zebralights (say the last 2-3 years) known for PWM?  Although I’ve seen some minor ripple, I haven’t detected any obvious PWM on my other three Zebralights (SC600fd IV Plus, SC600w III, SC53Fc).


 

I don’t think PWM has been an issue for Zebralights after the old SC51. So at least 5+ years.

Zebralight definitely isn’t known for PWM now. Today’s Zebralight drivers are excellent with top notch thermal management and good efficiency.

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Thanks for your excellent review Terry.

Great to see that the light hits Zebralights claims. Even the temperature is on spec (on all current Zebralights with PID the target temperature in the default setting of the PID is 50°C/122°F).

It would be interesting to see (in case you want to and/or have time to do some further testing) what the sustained brightness (and runtime) is with the PID turned all the way up (and possibly down as well), i.e. runtime graph with PID +5°C (and perhaps -5°C).

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Firelight2 wrote:
Terry Oregon wrote:

ZoomieFan wrote:
. . . and for me Zebra is mostly known for extreme PWM, I’ll skip this light.

 


Are more recent Zebralights (say the last 2-3 years) known for PWM?  Although I’ve seen some minor ripple, I haven’t detected any obvious PWM on my other three Zebralights (SC600fd IV Plus, SC600w III, SC53Fc).


 

I don’t think PWM has been an issue for Zebralights after the old SC51. So at least 5+ years.

Zebralight definitely isn’t known for PWM now. Today’s Zebralight drivers are excellent with top notch thermal management and good efficiency.

Yeah Zoomie’s impressions are quite a few generations old now. I’ve got lots of Zebras, from the old to the new, and visible PWM hasn’t been an issue for a long time now. What has been an issue, however, is their reliance on Cree’s latest-gen emitters which tend to have…um… less-than-perfect tint and tint-shift. Some folks are more bothered by it than others of course, like PWM for that matter, but if anyone is holding off on these newer Zebras because the old ones had slow PWM, they should stop holding off. Current Zebras are awesome lights that definitely do not have noticeable PWM.

Thanks for the review Terry. I’ve been on the fence about this one because of the XHP70.2’s weird tint-shifted corona issues, but the light is almost nice enough to make me overlook that Smile

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Looks like a super efficient and practical light. How’s the beam?

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Terry, any chance you can add or superimpose the runtime graph for the SC600w mk4 Plus in your charts for comparison?

Thanks

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Pavlo wrote:
Terry, any chance you can add or superimpose the runtime graph for the SC600w mk4 Plus in your charts for comparison? Thanks

 

Did you notice that I snuck in a graph for the SC600Fd IV Plus? It's gives a nice comparison for both lights at about 583 lumens. The SC600Fd graph (@ 557 lumens) was done last summer for my own interest, don't have any graphs for higher levels on the SC600Fd.

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Terry Oregon wrote:

Pavlo wrote:
Terry, any chance you can add or superimpose the runtime graph for the SC600w mk4 Plus in your charts for comparison? Thanks

 


Did you notice that I snuck in a graph for the SC600Fd IV Plus? It’s gives a nice comparison for both lights at about 583 lumens. The SC600Fd graph (@ 557 lumens) was done last summer for my own interest, don’t have any graphs for higher levels on the SC600Fd.

Don’t know how I missed that. Thanks!
One good reason to upgrade to buy the SC700D is that it can run at a much higher sustained output over the smaller siblings.

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Great review, I also linked it in the german TLF.
Looks like Zebralight delievered us a technically perfect flashlight again, I can’t wait to get mine.
And it would be great if you would write the temperatures also in celsius so that every non american reader don’t need to read it with a calculator at hand.

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Madtoffel wrote:
Great review, I also linked it in the german TLF. Looks like Zebralight delievered us a technically perfect flashlight again, I can't wait to get mine. And it would be great if you would write the temperatures also in celsius so that every non american reader don't need to read it with a calculator at hand.

 

OK, added a conversion to Celsius for the highlighted readings.

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Excellent, technical review Terry!

I got my sample last week and it is amazing to think how far ZL have come as a brand. I wasn’t super early to adopt (SC50/60 era) but jumped on as soon as I saw the critical acclaim the 750L SC600 received.

This is slightly bigger, obviously, diameter wise, but not much changed in terms of length. The main thing is it is so much brighter and efficient and is also HI CRI!! Not only that but it will look after itself and not over heat. Marvellous!!

I used mine as a bike light and the max output was fine for pretty fast offroad trail riding. I wouldn’t hit downhill at night anyway but others may find it bright enough to inspire confidence for that too..

Overall it is a great light and I see ZL selling A LOT of these..

I actually want the flood version now too to replace my SC600Fd just because the 700 seems so much more stable in terms of output

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I actually want the flood version now too to replace my SC600Fd just because the 700 seems so much more stable in terms of output

 

I would also be interested in the floody version. I emailed Zebralight sales, and asked if they could do a custom order for a floody SC700d with the frosted lens.  Their response . . .

"We will release SC700Fd in mid or late Feb, 2019."

 

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I wish they’d come out with a HI version.

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Excellent Review. Thanks!

I’m also waiting for the 700Fd version of this one, I think this is possibly a good platform for them to make more of a thrower with a smaller LED as well.

I’m liking the SC700d, but I think Zebra light can do just a bit better with an Fd version, and more of a thrower version. It’s a great flashlight, but it just falls a little short on the beam characteristics compared many of their past lights.

The thermal design of the light seems to be their best yet, very impressive.

I hope they adjust the battery tube diameter just a bit to remove the battery rattle, but maybe they are trying to allow for a few more batteries, as people often complain their favorite battery does not fit their ZebraLight on the 18650 lights, but I’ve had no issues.

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Has it quit raining enough there for some outdoor beamshots yet?

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Igor wrote:
I wish they’d come out with a HI version.

AKAIK, there is no HI version of the XHP70.2 emitter.

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Has it quit raining enough there for some outdoor beamshots yet?

 

Honestly, I've never done outdoor beamshots. Would a white poster board suffice (indoors) - showing the tint and beam pattern?

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Would be great.
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WalkIntoTheLight wrote:
Igor wrote:
I wish they’d come out with a HI version.

AKAIK, there is no HI version of the XHP70.2 emitter.

No there isn’t, but there is an XHP35 HI. I would also be more interested in this light if it had the XHP35 HI. Here’s hoping…

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Would be great. Mike

OK, late this evening.

 

 

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I think it would make good sense for Zebralight to release a XHP35 HI version of this light… as well as a SC700C for those who prefer warmer tints. In fact, I wish they would just release a 4500K 90 CRI but they seem to have stopped doing that. Too bad.

Looking forward to the beamshots Terry!

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Terry Oregon wrote:

RobertB wrote:
Has it quit raining enough there for some outdoor beamshots yet?

 


Honestly, I’ve never done outdoor beamshots. Would a white poster board suffice (indoors) – showing the tint and beam pattern?

You can post a wall shot if you want. Just wanted to see what it looks like in a practical sense. Owning a few ZL’s, already had a pretty good idea what the efficiency would be. The 70.2 is well known for a tint shift, but was thinking maybe ZL did fairly good job of blending that with the OP reflector.

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