Flashlight Comparison Request [D4V2 vs KR4 vs FW3A vs EDC18]

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Flashlight Comparison Request [D4V2 vs KR4 vs FW3A vs EDC18]

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Can anyone, please, compare the following flashlights with their 18350 tubes, side by side?

Emisar D4V2
Emisar KR4
Lumintop EDC18
Lumintop FW3A

I hope someone has the all 4 and the short tubes Big Smile

Thanks in advance! Thumbs Up

(In case you folks find it useful, this thread may remain as a “request thread” for comparison of flashlights that aren’t normally seen side-by-side!)

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Bump? Smile

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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Someone wishes they had all four! Silly

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G0OSE wrote:
Someone wishes they had all four! Silly

I bet someone surely has them to allow us, the “wishers”, to choose one…or all Silly Evil Cash

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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After a long time considering it and looking the night before , I decided to buy a cyan d4sv2 26650. The next day I went to buy it and it’s sold out not to be restocked.
That had to be a warning…..not of a bad light lol, but maybe something else is coming I’ll like more…. bit of a coincidence otherwise .

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I dont have a FWXX but the D4 is compared with the KR4 here

https://1lumen.com/18650-reviews/noctigon-kr4/

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But not with 18350 tubes.

I wish to get all of them with short tubes. For now I have only D4v2. Waiting for KR4 with mule e21a. Duno where to buy short tube for EDC18. FW3C with short tube is on my wish list.

MascaratumB wrote:
(In case you folks find it useful, this thread may remain as a “request thread” for comparison of flashlights that aren’t normally seen side-by-side!)

I think it’s a good idea. There have probably been several threads asking for comparisons. I recently made one photo for a friend who wanted to compare M43 to other soda can flashlights. If you are going to change this thread into a general thread, I will share this photo.

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MascaratumB wrote:
(In case you folks find it useful, this thread may remain as a “request thread” for comparison of flashlights that aren’t normally seen side-by-side!)
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I do not have a EDC18

I can show a comparison between FW3A, KR4 and D4V1 (all with the short Tube)

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DrDevil wrote:
I do not have a EDC18 I can show a comparison between FW3A, KR4 and D4V1 (all with the short Tube)

 

 

You sure that’s FW3A and not FW1A?

The stainless bezel is deep in your image, which I thought was for the FW1A version. Isn’t the Stainless Bezel for the FW3A considerably more shallow?

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ahirshy wrote:

DrDevil wrote:
I do not have a EDC18 I can show a comparison between FW3A, KR4 and D4V1 (all with the short Tube)

 




 


You sure that’s FW3A and not FW1A?


The stainless bezel is deep in your image, which I thought was for the FW1A version. Isn’t the Stainless Bezel for the FW3A considerably more shallow?

Yes I´m sure

From Left to Right (FW3A TI- 18650, FW3A with 18500 Tube, FW1A with 18350 Tube and FW3A with 18350 Tube)
As you can see, the Bezel of the FW1A is much more deeper than the Bezel for the FW3A

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DrDevil wrote:
Yes I´m sure

From Left to Right (FW3A TI- 18650, FW3A with 18500 Tube, FW1A with 18350 Tube and FW3A with 18350 Tube)
As you can see, the Bezel of the FW1A is much more deeper than the Bezel for the FW3A

Oh man yeah the FW1A bezel is substantially deeper given that perspective against the FW3A!

Apologies for the question, I genuinely thought the FW3A was even less deep before seeing it relatively.

All cool! Beautiful collection.

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> Can anyone, please, compare the following flashlights with their 18350 tubes, side by side?

I suggest also comparing the Carry Weight of each light (with a battery inside).

for me, weight is a useful way to compare lights of different sizes and shapes

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good size comparison
maybe you can add the carry weights..

"High CRI lights for sale":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/72660

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jon_slider wrote:
> Can anyone, please, compare the following flashlights with their 18350 tubes, side by side?

I suggest also comparing the Carry Weight of each light (with a battery inside).

for me, weight is a useful way to compare lights of different sizes and shapes

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good size comparison maybe you can add the carry weights..

Sure Smile

D4 with Alu Bezel: 53g (I have no SS Bezel for the D4)
FW3A; 41g (Alu Bezel), 47g (SS Bezel)
KR4: 69g (Alu Bezel), 75g (SS Bezel)

All without clip and without battery
So you have to add another 20g for a 18350 battery

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thank you Smile

my 18350 weighs 25 grams

so carry weights w bezels shown in pic would be:
FW3A 72 grams
D4 78 grams (8% heavier than FW3a)
KR4 100 grams, (42% heavier than FW3a)

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G0OSE wrote:
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That had to be a warning…..not of a bad light lol, but maybe something else is coming I’ll like more…. bit of a coincidence otherwise .

Ahah, you know, when Hank is on the run, something will happen and soon turn the recently launched light into and out-dated one Silly
The Cyan lights he does are surely different and stand-out for it , so maybe soon he “spits out” something alike Silly

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I dont have a FWXX but the D4 is compared with the KR4 here

https://1lumen.com/18650-reviews/noctigon-kr4/

Thanks for the link Yokiamy Wink
And for the pictures linked! That can surely show the comparison between the Emisars Wink

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But not with 18350 tubes.

I wish to get all of them with short tubes. For now I have only D4v2. Waiting for KR4 with mule e21a. Duno where to buy short tube for EDC18. FW3C with short tube is on my wish list.

[…]

I think it’s a good idea. There have probably been several threads asking for comparisons. I recently made one photo for a friend who wanted to compare M43 to other soda can flashlights. If you are going to change this thread into a general thread, I will share this photo.


Thanks Chatika Vas Paus!
Hum, the 18350 is already available, maybe on BG or through Neal. The member maba already showed it in and EDC18! I didn’t search for it yet, because I wanted to have this comparison to put some things in perspective Silly

Chatika and Geuzzz

I can change the title of the thread later to make it non-specific request. What do you say?
Then people can post their comparison requests Thumbs Up

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I do not have a EDC18

I can show a comparison between FW3A, KR4 and D4V1 (all with the short Tube)

Thank you so much DrDevil, for showing these three! I guess we’ll have to raise funds for the EDC18 and the short tube to have the full set compared Wink
That already tells me some things, specially about the bigger size of the KR4 .
I want to decide myself for one of those lights ( although I have the D4V1 and the FW3A already).
But a side-by-side comparison helps to see how “big” it will be for pocket carry.
I don’t care much about the weight, but the size of it makes some difference !

So, thanks for the 3/4 and now we hope you get the EDC18 for the “all in” comparison Big Smile

And great collectiom BTW Wink

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And the quest continues Silly

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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I think it’s a good idea. Sometimes you have to search for ages to find the right comparison

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I measured 71 gram with the 18350 tube and without clip for the KR4

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Geuzzz wrote:
I think it’s a good idea. Sometimes you have to search for ages to find the right comparison

It would be significant project, but a flashlight version of camerasize.com would be awesome.