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COPPER - Special Edition by Wuben

Hi Folks,
what do you think about this project?

The specs so far:

  • Samsung LH351D 4000K High CRI
  • 14500 and NiMH-Support
    • 3 levels on NiMH
    • 4 Levels on 14500
    • about 650lm (14500)
  • starts on low, memory or highest level
  • instant-Turbo and back to last level with double-click
  • PWM-free
  • lockout by keeping pressed about 3 secs from off
  • power indicator in the switch

 

To do:

  • Clip removable
  • switch-surrounding blue ring change to stainless
  • body-to-switch-alignment like the copper version (the reason for the gap between head and tube, tube is bit loosen)
  • completely unglued - therefore water resistance not absolutely given
  • engravement on the larger fields (side body) with number of the limited version (i.e. 1/100)
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Looks very “inspired” by the Reylight Lan. The clip and tail are almost identical!

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Very clean modable pocket light. Removeable SS clip is a big plus. I would love to see a photo of one of the CU versions loaded with trit tubes. I would be interested in one of each depending on the price.

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very attractive lights, both the brass and the copper variant.

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Clip needs to be different. Not sure about the Samsung, but it could be replaced if it’s again as greenish as in the E05-I. Switching off by long press is ok if it’s much, much faster than a second. Refer to Lumintop EDC 05 where it takes less than half a second.

But … may I say that I find it a little ugly?

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I like the copper one Love

But I have some doubts:
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Samsung LH351D 4000K High CRI

Will the light have SMO or OP reflector? The Samsung LH351D 5000K originates some tint shift under SMO reflectors. I am not sure of the 4000K also does it, but I’d consider using an Orange Peel reflector!

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starts on low, memory or highest level

What does this mean? We can start in any level by interacting differently with the switch?

One of the things that make the regular Wuben E05 not being my “perfect” EDC is that it has memory, so I can’t always start on the lowest level.
I would be getting one of these cells if it did have that possibility to always start on the lowest (even if it had the possibility to also start on other modes)!

I’m liking this light Wink

EDIT: I subscribe the option to click for ON/OFF and click & hold for cycling through modes.

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starts on low, memory or highest level

instant-Turbo and back to last level with double-click

PWM-free

lockout by keeping pressed about 3 secs from off

Please ”hold” for cycling, ”single clic” for off and not ”single clic” for cycling, ”hold” for off.
Cycling directly from off with ”hold” would be even better, like on Zebralight or anduril, but that means putting the lockout somewhere else.

Aside from that, it looks nice, but like Treellama said it heavily inspired from Reylight Lan, so much that it mostly looks like a side switch version of it, could use some originality.

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Looks nice, although I think the clip design should be changed. What’s with the square outline on the body tube? It looks a little haphazard. I would add vertical cross tube grooves in it, to add some grip capability. I’d like to see a 2-group UI, where one is ramping. Much like what other makers are starting to provide. It’s nice to have that flexibility.

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Reylight inspired.

I like it, especially after owning a T050R. Wuben is top quality, easily comparable to big companies like Fenix, Nitecore, Thrunite, etc…

I don’t need another AA light but if (and only IF…) they can have the lighted switch always on to act as a locator, I’ll buy the copper version. I never came across an AA light with a locator.

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The UI:

  • from Off:
    •  click > memory
    • doubleclick > Turbo
    • long press (about 0,7 sec) > low
    • extra long press (2 sec) > lockout (after low)
  • from on:
    • click > change brightness (L-M-H-T-L...)
    • doubleclick > Turbo - doubleclick > back to last level
    • long press (about 0,7 sec) > off
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I like the copper version.

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I like the look of the brass! I would definitely prefer click for on/off but I can live with hold for off if it’s less than one second.

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I rather have copper Wuben E05 rather than clone design. Forget those tritium slots, they are useless for most people. 

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0.7 s are too much time.

freeme wrote:

I rather have copper Wuben E05 rather than clone design.

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Unless you’re working directly with Reylight on a collaboration, this isn’t cool.

If you are, this is awesome.

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freeme wrote:

I rather have copper Wuben E05 rather than clone design. Forget those tritium slots, they are useless for most people. 


Well, that would at least make the flashlight thiner, what would be nice thing for weight and carrying. It would eventually lose some mass to dissipate heat, though Oops

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Wuben:

ger-slash wrote:

ReyLight:

liquidretro wrote:

so….
another china mystery
does Wuben buy hosts from the same place Reylight buys their hosts?

personally, no interest in sideswitch, and no interest in the Wuben UI

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Rey worked for Wuben for some time

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Any way to add magnetic connector for charging via usb??

The most ugly place in the world! Surprised

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I’m interested.
Is it you running it or Wuben, or are you speaking for Wuben?
The clip is fine, it is already removable enough – it’s a nice clip, and believe me I’m not keen on clips. Wink

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I'd definitely be up for a Copper manufactured by Wuben - they make very high-quality products. A good step above Sofirn/Wurkkos in my book, judging design aesthetics, anodising, milling/machining, etc.

 

derfyled wrote:
Reylight inspired.

freeme wrote:
I rather have copper Wuben E05 rather than clone design [...]

 

Are we sure that this would be a clone, and doesn't signify Wuben as an OEM? (No accusations here, just don't know the history/relationship between various factories & brands).

 

UI preferences are subjective, unless there are functional-impacting decisions. Olight have a consistent and functional UI which is basic and muggle friendly. Whilst Open UIs like Anduril are complex and extensively configurable. I've been looking for a middle ground with the button-modes and configuration options that sit somewhere in the middle.

 

Recently I've come to like some UIs that seem like "cut-down Anduril", leaving options like swapping between Smooth ramping and Stepped output, whilst leaving out some of the configuration complexities. (Perhaps they are using Anduril code outside of the license - I've suspected this due to the almost identical flash at each end of the smooth ramping - but I wouldn't know for sure.)

 

E.g. Wurkkos FC11 (updated UI version). Sofirn IF25 (non-Anduril edition).

 

For Sofirn I do like their double-button interface (TO46R), however this is nothing that can't be achieved with a dual-stage (camera-shutter style) button.

 

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To do:

  • Clip removable
  • switch-surrounding blue ring change to stainless
  • body-to-switch-alignment like the copper version (the reason for the gap between head and tube, tube is bit loosen)
  • completely unglued - therefore water resistance not absolutely given
  • engravement on the larger fields (side body) with number of the limited version (i.e. 1/100)

  • Clip already looks removeable (ring around threads ala FW3A). Am I missing something from your proposal? This is better than friction fit that could scratch when turning or removing.
  • Where the body etching/pattern is not consistent around the entire circumference, it should align with any switch, etching or trit-holes in the head/tail. Not so bad if it's just regular knurling, but misalignment of detailed patterns does in my OCD! Recognising this is difficult to achieve in mass-production due to dependence on threads and subtle filing adjustments.

ARH

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Unheard wrote:
Clip needs to be different. Not sure about the Samsung, but it could be replaced if it’s again as greenish as in the E05-I. Switching off by long press is ok if it’s much, much faster than a second. Refer to Lumintop EDC 05 where it takes less than half a second.

But … may I say that I find it a little ugly?


Maybe buy a different light altogether then, rather than asking for this one to be changed in every respect. You already want the clip changed and maybe the led’s, maybe the switch and driver config and also find it ugly……. why would you even be interested? Silly
Bit much asking for the entire thing to be changed don’t you think? Smile
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Ger-slash asked for our opinions. If mine is not positive, does this disqualify me for posting here?

Edit: What about the other contributors that had doubts about the Reylight clip or the UI? Or the one who wrote he rather had a E05 in copper? What’s so special about my post that you picked it? English is not my native language obviously, so I’m honestly open for any hints on what I’m doing wrong.

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Long press for off = NO BUY Sick

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ger-slash wrote:

The UI: IPO 

  • from Off:
    •  click > memory
    • doubleclick > Turbo
    • long press (about 0,7 sec) > low
    • extra long press (2 sec) > lockout (after low)
  • from on:
    • click > change brightness (L-M-H-T-L...)
    • doubleclick > Turbo - doubleclick > back to last level
    • long press (about 0,7 sec) > off

This kills it for me. Love the E05 but don’t hardly use it because of the HOLD for off. As mentioned before — click for off and hold to cycle. 
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Interested if you change the reylight clip. Shortcut to low and single click for off.

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I would prefer following changes:

UI:

  • single click = ON/OFF (no mode memory)
  • long press (from ON) = cycle modes (low - med - high), or ramp up/down
  • long press (from OFF) = moonlight (0.1lm - 0.5lm)
  • doubleclick (from ON/OFF)= Turbo
    • => another click: return to previous mode
    • => another double click: SOS
    • => another double click: Beacon
  • 4x click (from OFF) = e-lockout ON/OFF
  • 6x click (from OFF) = cycle mode groups (stepped modes or ramping)

Alternatively, I would also prefer some stripped Andúril like RampingIOS 2.0.

 

Lens:

Are there any pictures of the front available. Maybe Wuben can check using a single TIR lens for a better beam profile (smooth hotspot with less spill, less artifacts/tintshift compared to SMO/OP reflector).

 

Material:

Well, I'm not a fan of heavyweight metal like copper. For a small, sturdy and relatively low-powered keychain light titanium might be much more interesting, being not as heavy as copper but tougher against wear and tear as well as impacts. For people with very deep pockets Wuben could use something like Mokume Gane, see Reylight's LAN for reference...

 

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Unheard wrote:
Ger-slash asked for our opinions. If mine is not positive, does this disqualify me for posting here?

Edit: What about the other contributors that had doubts about the Reylight clip or the UI? Or the one who wrote he rather had a E05 in copper? What’s so special about my post that you picked it? English is not my native language obviously, so I’m honestly open for any hints on what I’m doing wrong.


Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound rude or pick you out – my point was he is asking for opinions on an existing light , which is in the op.
When you want virtually every bit about it changed then go on to say it’s ugly (so presumably you don’t care for the shape either), I just wondered why you’d even want it anyway? you seem to like nothing about it as is.
Sorry, my thoughts ran away with me is all. Again, I apologise for that.

Now for my thoughts….. Facepalm
I’d rather it had the clip as in the photo, more so it’s removable like the fw3a – not a clip on one. The clip as in the photo is fine, nice and strong, easy to remove.
I’d rather it didn’t have a million click UI – just something simple and reliable with no silly sos, blinkies, lightshows, 30 different moonlights etc etc. This isn’t that type of light for me.
Trit holes – way too many vs the price of the light. If unfilled they can look bare and silly and only a tiny tiny amount of people can afford to fill all of them, so it’s pointless – 1 or 2 yes. Maybe make the trit tailcap an option to keep the price down – there’s a lot of operations and time involved in doing all those holes – maybe reducing it could reduce the price too. Lights with that many trit holes are for people with lots of disposable income.

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No problem, G0OSE. I don’t know the background and thought, it was just a prototype and ger-slash finding out what people think. With slight changes to the pattern on the tube, it would be much better in my eyes. But one has to see it in reality, of course.

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If possible, please change the UI. Long press to cycle through modes and click for off. Also, please don’t clone the ReyLight design. Make your own.

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Are both colours copper? and is it single click for on/off? Roughly what price will it be?

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