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Review: XinTD L2

XinTD L2 . . . . Flashlight Xanadu

 

If you're a flashlight nut, International Outdoor is a dangerous place.  There is hardly a single light on their site that I do not wish very much to own.  I've wanted this bad boy for quite some time and there are other flashlights in my collection I've long awaited, only to be underwhelmed when the big day finally arrived.  Either I have learned to temper my expectations or, the XinTD L2 really is that good.  Perhaps both but whatever it is, this captivating torch has so far, knocked it out of the park for me.  Every flashaholic has buttons that need pushing and this light pushed nearly all of mine.  Foy needs superb machine quality/lathe work, flawless anodization, good looks and it has to be bright.  The XinTD is all of these and a lot more so, it must certainly be . . .

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Bottom line: The XinTD L2 is bright, extremely well made and is easy on the eyes.  It features many quality extras that make using and owning this superb light a uniquely satisfying experience.  It has flawless machine work, the anodization is near perfect and did I say how good looking it is?  The only possible fly in the ointment is that I specifically chose the 3-mode UI (you're given a choice when ordering, 3 or 5 mode) yet I received the 5-mode.  I will admit to owning my XinTD barely 24 hours but until it does something stupid, I have to say its function has been stellar.  If you're a flashlight nut, this is about as good as it gets.

 

What I like:

- machine/lathe work

- anodization, color and texture

- tail cap switch design/execution

- gold contact rings on all threaded ends

- substantial, copper, screw-in pill

- robust construction

- performance

- aesthetics

What I do not like:

- UI  (I really wanted the 3-mode)

- under driven?

 

XinTD L2 1 or 2 x 18650 Cree XM-L/T6 Flashlight

$55.00  International Outdoor  http://www.intl-outdoor.com/xintd-l2-12-x-18650-cree-xml-t6-flashlight-p-202.html 

ordered:  2-16-12

received: 3-2-12  (15 days, not bad)

XM-L/T6 emitter

designed to work with one or two 18650 lithium-ion batteries  (no working voltage given)

5-mode user interface with mode memory: high, medium, low, fast strobe and SOS

6061-T6 aluminum

HA III anodization

aluminum crenulated bezel

tail standing reverse clicky tail cap with 16mm boot  (ships with GITD boot)

rated IPX-6: protected against high pressure spray, "heavy seas" not rated for submersion

selected manufacturer specifications:

shipping weight 800g

two-battery length 217; body 25; head 53.5mm  (single length 152mm)

run time on high: 2 hours

"790 lumens"

what you get for $55:

L2 flashlight with extension tube and aluminum bezel

extra glass lens

extra switch  (switch button only)

2 extra o-rings

lanyard

6mm neodimium magnetic battery spacers (2)

 

tail cap draw:  2 x unprotected Panasonic 18650/2350

low -        .05 amps (about .10 to the emitter)

medium - .61          (1.22 to emitter)

high -     1.12         (2.24 to emitter)

1 x Panasonic 18650/2350

low -         .10 amps

medium - 1.23

high -      2.43

 

Foyometer  (discredited but it's all I got for now)

58 -   Foy's dimly lit office

160 - Solarforce M8              (2 x Panasonic 2350)

180 - XinTD L2                      (2 x Panasonic 2350)

240 - Sky Ray 818/3 x XM-L  (2 x Panasonic 2350)

 

Sorry Int'l-Outdoor; awesome flashlights, lousy shipping department.  I ordered through my employer's account (I put 'Flashlight Foy' in the comments) and this is how my package arrived.  Luckily, everything was okay but they did send me the 5-mode version instead of the 3-mode that I ordered.  Foy likes to feel special and this smashed box failed in that attempt.

As you can see, the XinTD L2 is a looker . . . . under the definition; fancy shelf queen flashlight, sub-heading; not for actual use.  I'm guessing not too many XinTDs will be rolling around on Dexron smeared cement.  This is flashlight Xanadu and its purpose need not be explained to its intended audience . . . .

. . . . stylistically, there's a lot going on here and most of it is a mere suggestion of functional necessity.  With 1.12 amps at the tail, the presence of "cooling fins" serves a much more important artistic purpose and the beautiful knurling is actually quite grippy.  This is flashlight style folks and it is here carried out with hip-swinging, runway seduction.

Creative excellence takes many forms and the L2 combines texture and varying surface details to delight any flashaholic.  It could be the perfect ambassador to those that incorrectly believe a flashlight is just something to better see with.

This particular XinTD L2 arrived in flawless condition.  No exaggeration.  Not even a hint of the slightest scratch or imperfection could be found anywhere on the exterior.

Every cut; perfect.  Every surface; smooth and the anodization is a spectacular shade of brown in stronger light while appearing grey as it becomes darker.  The specs say type 3 and Foy has no plans to test finish durability.

You'll not find a sharp edge anywhere but I guarantee your fingers will enjoy the search.  Discovering the quality of this XinTD is similar to my first experience with Solarforce.  This L2 however, is little more upmarket . . . .

The XinTD L2 feels great in the hand.  I forgot to take a picture of it in single cell livery but I can tell you that it doesn't feel right with just one battery.

 For $5 more, you can get a "Super Type" stainless steel bezel but I'm thinking I can eschew the extra weight and polish this guy to a stainless-like mirror shine.

How many flashlights in your collection have gold contact rings on every threaded end?  Are clear o-rings better?  No.  Do they suit the character of this torch perfectly?  Yes.

(Does Foy like rhetorical questions?  Absolutely.)

The threads glide so smooth, you'll be taking it apart just to experience how good it feels.

Is this just another beautifully drilled, burr-free tail cap . . . . ?

. . . . as a matter of fact, it is not . . . .

I haven't had the light long enough to know how well this switch will hold up but I have never seen a tail cap switch so cleverly designed . . . . or one more robust.

Not too many lights look this good, this close . . . .

More quality is seen in this copper, screw-in pill.  I borrowed IO's picture in lieu of taking it out myself.

If you don't like battery rattle/slop you're going to love the XinTD L2.  It's a snug fit and if you wrap some of your cells as I do, they might not fit.  This picture shows the length of two unprotected Panasonic 18650s.  Two Xtar 18700s fit with no problem.

Something not mentioned in the site's description are these two 6mm magnetic battery spacers.  The inclusion of an extra switch is interesting, considering it draws just 1.12 amps on high.

Given the tepid tail cap readings, I was surprised by how bright the XinTD is.  Eye-balling it side by side, the XinTD seemed slightly brighter than the Solarforce M8 . . . . later confirmed by my Foyometer and the beam shots reveal that the XinTD L2 can run with the big dogs.

All beam shots were taken with 1/4 second shutter speed @f2.8.

Solarforce M8 with 2 x Panasonic 18650/2350.

XinTD L2 with 2 x Panasonic 18650/2350.  The M8 might have a bit more reach with its deeper and slightly larger diameter reflector but I'm guessing it won't out-throw it by much.  The XinTD is completely smooth while the M8 reflector is a hybrid SMO/OP.

UltraFire MCU-C88 (E1320 edition) with 1 x King Kong 26650/4000.

I never miss an opportunity to show off my E1320 edition C88.  When this C88 is in the house, everybody gets an ass-whoopin . . . . as it has just done here, mopping up the floor with the XinTD and the M8.

This is a knock-out flashlight.  Killer good looks, top quality inside and out, fit and finish second to none and segment leading performance puts the XinTD L2 in a very hip crowd.  It may be an aspirational light for many but from my perspective, Int'l-Outdoor could charge twice as much and probably sell just as many.

The XinTD L2 is a very nice piece of equipment and no doubt, you'll be singing its praises if you get one.

 

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Stop now Foy. I'm in enough trouble already. I dont need help with an itchy finger. Superb review for a superb light. Have you recieved your JM05 yet?

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They split up my order.  The JM05 and the VG20 are still enroute.  I wish they would have shipped those first.

 

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Nice review, nice light!

Can you change modes by accident, if you shake it very hard? This was a bit of a problem with STL-V2...

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Nope.  Mode selection is rock solid.  This light is functionally perfect.

 

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Hi Foy. I really like this flashlight but as I said, I removed the brass cap over the spring in the tailcap to be able to use it with any batteries, because the brass cap doesn't travel so much as the bare spring will.

My readings, 1.35A with 2XAW 2900 (NCR18650) - Voltage of each cell: 3.79V, 3.86V

                   1.35A with 2XSanyo 2600 (UR18650FM) - Voltage of each cell 3.74V, 3.74V

I measured through the switch also and I get the same results.

Measuring with the high resistance UR16650ZT cell I get 1.75A (this one was not measured through the switch). I will test more when I will buy a Luxmeter.

 

But the most important thing: No PWM on any mode. Smile

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Foy, beautiful photographs and excellent review. This light was in the finals for me for a 1/2 x 18650, and I ultimately chose the Solarforce M8. I don't regret that decision, but I still look at this light and want it, now more so after your review. After you've had it a little longer, can you compare the two lights in 1x mode?

Congratulations on a great flashlight. Can't wait to see it after the bezel gets a good foypolish.

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Once again another great review, thanks for sharing.  What a nice looking piece, the machining and coating looks absolutely perfect on this one. I currently have a couple high voltage (multi-battery) drivers on order. I am searching for one that will drive an XML to 3 amps and has a micro controller I can reprogram.

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Awesome review as usual Foy!  Thx!

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GreatreviewandbeautifulpicsasusualFoy!

 

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Nice review Foy. I really like this light but it seems a bit underdriven to me. Does anybody know why such a difference in current between 2 cells and one?  

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Flashlight Foy wrote:

Nope.  Mode selection is rock solid.  This light is functionally perfect.

 

Foy

 

Sounds good, price does not seem too bad either.

Thanks!

 

e: reading again your review, seems like you really got a good one on your shelf, congrats!

By fast look, it seems really conservative design, some might say even basic or plain. But they really have done it right... It is a looker!

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The quality of the machining, as well as the clear o-rings are reminiscent of my Shadow TC-6.

 

Excellent review, Foy !  

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What I don't like in this flashlight is wasted space and light. Head is quite big for such "small" reflector plus there's some distance between the end of the reflector and the end of the bezel which means tighter spill and wasted light. $24 cheaper version:

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sky-ray-c109-cree-xml-t6-5mode-...

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phantom -

I hear you on the thickness of and around the bezel.  It is a unique feature for sure but for me, it's one of the things I specifically like about its looks.  Thank you for posting the link to the C09 - I didn't know there was a clone for this design.  (should have done more research, apparently)  I own just one Sky Ray (818/triple T6) and to be blunt; if the C09 is anything like the train wreck my 818 is, the additional $24 for the XinTD is a shout-it-from-the-rooftops bargain.

The exceptional quality of this flashlight is remarkable and I'm frankly amazed it doesn't cost $100.  It is possible some of you will get this light and not be as impressed as I am.  The XinTD represents a first step out of my flashlight comfort zone.  I suppose if I had more higher quality lights I might be less blown away.

For example; this light would work just fine with bare aluminum ends to complete the circuit and I'm not saying that it performs any better with gold rings pressed in.  What I am saying is that the total of all these little touches add up to a very satisfying flashlight ownership experience, something a less well made torch simply can not do - whatever the price savings.

Hikelite -

So, will it deliver more current with the brass cap off?  I'll have to give it a try.

 

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Let us put it this way:

 

XinTD L2 OR 980L?  (choose one)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It would have to be the XinTD . . . . which, I suppose means that Foy is perhaps not the lumen whore he thought he was.  The 980L is slightly brighter but side by side on a wall, the difference is appears negligible.  The 980L has great quality but the XinTD takes it a step further.

 

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phantom23 wrote:

What I don't like in this flashlight is wasted space and light. Head is quite big for such "small" reflector plus there's some distance between the end of the reflector and the end of the bezel which means tighter spill and wasted light. $24 cheaper version:

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sky-ray-c109-cree-xml-t6-5mode-...

The cheaper version is a clone. As it's been only for days there. Less knurling. One tpe of anodizing. No brass cap, no brass inserts on each tune, not each thread is anodized. No accessories. There's no visible PWM (really no visible) on the L2. Anyway the price from Manafont for that Skyray clone it's just adjusted to what you get.

This is a light that has a lot of aluminum mass and a lot heat-sinking capability, it's just that the driver that doesn't match the visual feeling you get from the design. Soon the XinTD L2 is 1 year old, and the clones have to show in numbers.

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Flashlight Foy wrote:

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Hikelite -

So, will it deliver more current with the brass cap off?  I'll have to give it a try.

 

Foy

Nope, I took the brass off to be able to use any battery length easier, since the brass cap will not compensate (travel back and fort ) as well as the spring, depends what batteries one use.. I never measure through the brass cap, only regular tailcap readings and with the switch in the circuit.

 

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Hikelite -

Okay.  I misunderstood.

About the clone . . . . I'm trying to be diplomatic but the truth is; comparing that Sky Ray the XinTD L2 is a joke.

I don't want to overstate it but this flashlight is easily the highest quality torch I own.

 

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Thanks -- great review. (Amazing pics, as always. Wish I had the skill.)


 

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Very well done. Frontpage'd and Sticky'd. Sorry for the delay!

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Great review.  Now my wallet is screaming.

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I like to provide updates periodically but the truth is; the XinTD L2 spends most of its time looking good on my shelf.  So far, all I've done is play with it while watching movies I've recorded from TCM.  I can report that it comes on every time Cary Grant does and it's just as hot looking as Grace Kelly

 

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I've had one on order since 03/17 and Hank emailed me on SAT with this message:

"The gap between the bezel and the body is a little big (about 1mm).
We need to send them back to the factory for fixing which will take 2 weeks.
The items are already been on the way, do you need us to ask the carrier return it?

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The gap on mine got wide when I reassembled it with the o-ring installed in the groove around the bezel.  The light arrived with it below the lens.  In fact, that's how it was when I took the review pictures . . .

Now, it's completely flat against the head.  Sounds like Hank may be talking about a different issue, though.

 

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Foy,

The gap on the picture he sent is about twice the normal size. No big deal but since he offered to have it fixed, I thought that was great customer service. I'm just bummed it's going to take so long to get this light.

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Foy wrote:

I like to provide updates periodically but the truth is; the XinTD L2 spends most of its time looking good on my shelf.  So far, all I've done is play with it while watching movies I've recorded from TCM.  I can report that it comes on every time Cary Grant does and it's just as hot looking as Grace Kelly

 

hitchisthemanFoy

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Foy, I have searched the thread to see if there are any pictures/specs of this light connected with just ONE 18650. Could not find any! Have you ever run this in single cell mode, and if so, are there any pictures of it out there?

Thanks,

ceh (a 72 year old kid)

 

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Thanks for doing the L2/M8 comparison, Foy, much appreciated!

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Doing stuff like that will keep you young forever!! Trust me, I know!! Wink

Foy, I have searched the thread to see if there are any pictures/specs of this light connected with just ONE 18650. Could not find any! Have you ever run this in single cell mode, and if so, are there any pictures of it out there?

Thanks,

ceh (a 72 year old kid)

 

 

 

tail cap draw:  2 x unprotected Panasonic 18650/2350

low -        .05 amps

medium - .61

high -     1.12

1 x Panasonic 18650/2350

low -         .10 amps

medium - 1.23

high -      2.43

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