Armytek Wizard Pro "Nichia" more GREENISH than CREE (?!)

Do you know where I can find them ?

Try Lumintronix.com or futureelectronics.com.

[Clemence]

lol > 1500 minimum order and lumintronix has no stock (80CRI only)

So far, I only managed to find a 5000k 90CRI from ledrise.com
Ledrise - High Performance Led Lighting NICHIA NV4W144AR 5050 Package Cold White High Power SMT LED

In fact, above 5000k, I don’t mind having a hint of green or blue because it’s anyway on the cooler side. I have compared the Wizard Nichia with both 219C 90CRI 5000k and 5700k and they look much more neutral than this 144 from Armytek (for another comparison, the XML2 neutral from skillhunt has a better tint than the Armytek Nichia !)

In fact, I really appreciate the true daylight tint from the 5700k temperature. 219B 9080 looks “fancy pink” but it is not practical as it cast too much pink on everything.

Clemence, do you think the NV4W144AR_Ra9050_5000K is close to the 219C 5000K?

If you were next house, you would change your mind about my “unrealistic” expectation. It’s more greenish than my XPL-Hi 6500k and as green as the sst-20 4000k from kaidomain j4 fb4 but without the high RED values.

Side by side, the Wizard Nichia looks even more greenish than my 219C 5000K 80CRI. So, TONS of emitters is out of topic. We a not comparing oranges and apples here.

Check my website for Maukka’s spectrum test on 219C D240 R9050 and 144AM E900 R9050. The only difference between 144AM and 144AR is the footprint voltage and test current. 144AM binned at 1400mA and 144AR binned at 700mA.

[Clemence]

You mean 144AM and 144AR have different foot print (?)

Sorry, I meant voltage. What’s wrong with me today? Arrrgh

As I said, it’s the way my eyes work. Not much to explain, and others may very well not share this perception.

It’s true Unheard. Any LED compared to for example, sw45k looks green. That applies to any comparators. I have to isolate my eyes for a few minutes to cure this rosiness off my brain after seeing any rosy light source. I never like sw45k, it’s pretty yet unnatural. Even the sun looks VERY green compared to 219B sw45k.
I thought pictures would show different perception with side by side images, because the sensor should interprets it differently. But I was wrong, once my eyes look at the side by side image, my brain tricks me back again!!!
The only valid way is to directly measure the said greenish image with a spectrophotometer.

[Clemence]

If I had nothing else to do, I would send this light for CRI testing… I can’t believe it has 90CRI with 50 red… I counter checked with 6 other of my Nichia light (219B and 219C) this Armytek Wizard “Nichia” is the worse of all… The only time that it looks okey, it’s on Turbo 2 ! (which is badly driven compared to the pro XHP50!)

Here is a close-up to the led through the TIR :

That’s really not clean. It’s greenish and moreover full of dust (?)

Clemence? You sell and have tested the 144 CRI90 . You are familiar with this emitter, what do you think about that picture?

It’s as ugly as a sst-20 FB4 from kaidomain (but in more dull :confounded: )

144AM Sm453 E900 R9050 I tested we’re as good as people’s expectation. Many of our friends in BLF can confirm about it. Not as rosy as sw45k for sure but definitely not green. Zak put it on his wizard and he wrote a review about it. You might want to check his thread. He installed it in under driven condition (being 6V in 12V driver) but still not green.

[Clemence]

BTW, I noticed the speckles are different on each lens, i.e. not located on the LEDs. Could be residue or just dust. Mine looks not much better.

lmao E21A wizard > 144A Wizzard

Pheewwww… I feel much more better. Thanks !

For a while, I thought that my sample was accidentally dirty… No bad luck on that side > dirty optic is standard.

This light will return back to Foshan. Unacceptable.

I’ve seen those specks in every TIR lens I’ve looked at under magnification. I think they’re air bubbles or some other imperfections created during production.

Are you sure ?

Personally, I believe what I see. So, let’s have a look :

This is a close-up of the 2 first TIR lights I have right here… You can zoom-in and notice zero dust/particle/imperfections on those TIR (both Skilhunt h03)

There is a nice smooth homogeneous grainy texture in it, but no dark spots or obvious production imperfections…

Let me check more of those specks in every TIR lens I’ve under my hands - I’ll be back with better stats…

(Edit)

I check 3 other light, all TIR, and 1 single TIR from Fastech. So far, the only TIR that looks so dirty is this Wizard Nichia. Rest is clean. If there is a dirt on the surface of the dome, the same pattern should appear on every micro lens of the TIR. Anyway, the light return tomorrow to manufacturer.

I can spot them in your pictures, allthough the structure mostly hides them well. But really talking about assembling lights in non-clean rooms? This has zero visible effect imo.

Sorry, you really need to calm down. It’s not a Lupine, it’s a cheap light assembled in China.

I think you just lost the lint lottery.
I agree that this tint in unbearable, but I am a total tint snob.
Time to choose your destiny :slight_smile:
Send it back or mod it. We prefer the last one with a picture report.

No problem geuzzz > Just send me a nice 144AR 90CRI emitter in 4500K, 5000K or 5700k , and I will send you some nice pictures report :wink:

But it’s too late. Light is already packed for return. I will update if any “excuse pop-up” from Armytek not to refund me.

I’ll pay for the return fee, that’s ok (fair enough)