similarities Utorch S1 Mini, Klarus Mi1c, Olight Minis, and Sunwayman

Agro · September 20, 2018, 6:56pm

Here is my best guess on how does the E16 lens work.
I think the central part refracts some light, focusing it forwards. It somehow redirects outward light towards reflector, possibly using total internal reflection for that. Then reflector makes a forwards-facing beam out of it.
Regardless if I’m right or wrong about that, I really don’t think this is just a TIR.

jon_slider · September 20, 2018, 9:06pm

thanks for the link and info
you may be right that it is a Hybrid that relies on a reflector, not just fully TIR

whatever it is or does, I look forward to someone posting side by side beamshots of the E16 and an S Mini, so we can see how the beams compare.

Agro · September 20, 2018, 9:45pm

Me too.

jon_slider · September 20, 2018, 10:19pm

I am curious about the Fenix E16, I hope someone does a review.
Im even more curious about the Klarus Mi1C High CRI.

Glenn7 · September 21, 2018, 6:41pm

Olight S1R II

jon_slider · September 21, 2018, 7:14pm

The S1R use a unique IMR battery with the positive and negative on the same end, to work with the magnetic charger. Its a convenient package, but, Im not very comfortable with the exposed charge ring on the tailcap…

otoh, if you want to use the light to start fires, here is how to do it:

Also that IMR battery is UNProtected, so, BAD idea to use it in any of the S1 Mini or S Mini, that lack the protection circuit built into the S1R. I gave my S1R to one of my adult children as a house light. I did not want to keep it around, due to the non standard battery.

Agro · October 25, 2018, 9:34am

Some more info: throwiness. Based on manufacturer data.
Mi1c Al: 0.7 cd/lm
Mi1c HCRI: 4.1 cd/lm
Mi1c Ti/Cu: 4.8 cd/lm
Olight S1 Mini Ti: 5.5 cd/lm
Olight S1 Mini Baton: 7.0 cd/lm
Fenix E16: 7.2 cd/lm
Don’t have the numbers for the others.

ADDED: I see that E16 uses XP-L HI while S1 Mini Baton uses XM-L2.
This means that with XP-L HI S1 Mini would be able to collimate the beam to very roughly 14 cd/lm. Olight optics is way throwier than Fenix one…

jon_slider · October 25, 2018, 2:11am

thank you! this tells me the M1c High CRI has a hotspot, like the Ti/CU

do you own these lights?:
can you share your thoughts on the Mi1C High CRI tint, maybe post a photo of it next to the Ti S Mini and Ti Mi1c

Also
for those times when Sundrop style floody High CRI beam, w No Hotspot, is desired…
Does the Aspheric lens from the Mi1c Al, work on the Mi1C High CRI? (without the shiny reflector)

Agro · October 25, 2018, 5:29am

These numbers are from the manufacturers. I am unable to answer your questions.

g_damian · March 17, 2019, 9:10pm

Has anyone opened E16? I have Ti version, but cannot unscrew the bezel.

jon_slider · March 18, 2019, 4:31am

it works like this

pc_light · March 18, 2019, 3:49am

@g_damian

I don’t know about the Ti version but the Al version is “press fit” similar to the Olight in the video above.

Here’s what awaits you inside -

saypat · March 18, 2019, 4:04am

… would I like to have these skills!