Single LED 21700

[BurningPlayd0h]

XHP 50B 3V is only available in cool white, which is a huge factor in deciding.

The 5000K SST-40 beamshots I have seen look very nice. Throwier to get a bit more range, less tint shift, neutral temp and just a slight loss in output vs XHP 50. Either emitter will get a light HOT at max output and step down quickly anyway.

@Marc E

@BurningPlayd0h

LED4Power’s drivers have a very limited range of current, not a variety of low, medium, turbo, etc. modes.

Not in my experience, the drivers can have up to 5 modes + moonlight (with a choice of 3 moonlight levels), max can be switched between constant current and direct drive, max constant current mode is adjustable and the modes will alter as percentage of the max current chosen, and you can choose between 4 drivers which deliver max current between 2-3A, 4-8A, 7-9A and 8-12A.
Sooo, what did you mean by a very limited range of current?

Unless I’m completely misinterpreting what their product page says…

0.125Amp steps (3A version) down to 2A
0.250Amp steps (6A and 9A version) down to 4A (6A version)
7A (9A version):0.500Amp steps (12A version) down to 8A

Output current: 2-12 Amperes (3A,6A,9A,12A default options)

that’s only a max range of 4A or less depending on which mode it is set to. So you get moonlight, whatever small amperage range, and optionally a direct-drive mode if you install the external FET. Am I wrong in understanding it that way? That seems far more restrictive vs a PWM’ed FET+7135 driver or similar option with output ranging from moonlight to direct-drive and including everything in between.

[e1000]

@BurningPlayd0h

Unless I’m completely misinterpreting what their product page says…

0.125Amp steps (3A version) down to 2A
0.250Amp steps (6A and 9A version) down to 4A (6A version)
7A (9A version):0.500Amp steps (12A version) down to 8A

Output current: 2-12 Amperes (3A,6A,9A,12A default options)

that’s only a max range of 4A or less depending on which mode it is set to. So you get moonlight, whatever small amperage range, and optionally a direct-drive mode if you install the external FET. Am I wrong in understanding it that way? That seems far more restrictive vs a PWM’ed FET+7135 driver or similar option with output ranging from moonlight to direct-drive and including everything in between.

I’ll be honest and say I’ve never actually used the LD-4x, but from the datasheet, how I read it is that’s the setting for MAX amps. The mode mode groups then give you the tiers and are a percentage of that MAX. For example, if you set it to 3A, you can have up to a 5 mode group, and it’ll be a percentage of that 3A.

Alternatively, the datasheet says you can uncap it all and just go direct drive for the uppermost level as well.

That’s how I read it

[BurningPlayd0h]

@e1000

@BurningPlayd0h

Unless I’m completely misinterpreting what their product page says…

0.125Amp steps (3A version) down to 2A
0.250Amp steps (6A and 9A version) down to 4A (6A version)
7A (9A version):0.500Amp steps (12A version) down to 8A

Output current: 2-12 Amperes (3A,6A,9A,12A default options)

that’s only a max range of 4A or less depending on which mode it is set to. So you get moonlight, whatever small amperage range, and optionally a direct-drive mode if you install the external FET. Am I wrong in understanding it that way? That seems far more restrictive vs a PWM’ed FET+7135 driver or similar option with output ranging from moonlight to direct-drive and including everything in between.

I’ll be honest and say I’ve never actually used the LD-4x, but from the datasheet, how I read it is that’s the setting for MAX amps. The mode mode groups then give you the tiers and are a percentage of that MAX. For example, if you set it to 3A, you can have up to a 5 mode group, and it’ll be a percentage of that 3A.

Alternatively, the datasheet says you can uncap it all and just go direct drive for the uppermost level as well.

That’s how I read it

I don’t think that’s the case because for each max amperage setting they also list an associated “down to” minimum current. All the reviews I’ve seen of their drivers explain it as working that way as well.

[KnHawke]

@Macka17

Oh.

And don’t be tooooo disappointed if your first 20 or 30 don’t give you “exactly”,
what you wanting .

There’s LOTSA blokes on here been looking and experimenting for yrs.
And still looking. Chuckle.

Enjoy the life mate. it’s very diverse. and often frustrating.

Ooooh! I know that feeling all to well!
Since this is going to be my first actual build, I know that I will at least learn something from this.
’Least till I get the itch to do something crazier later, like the GXP172, XHP70.2 in an M3 host or something hehe

[g_damian]

@BurningPlayd0h

@e1000

@BurningPlayd0h

Unless I’m completely misinterpreting what their product page says…

0.125Amp steps (3A version) down to 2A
0.250Amp steps (6A and 9A version) down to 4A (6A version)
7A (9A version):0.500Amp steps (12A version) down to 8A

Output current: 2-12 Amperes (3A,6A,9A,12A default options)

that’s only a max range of 4A or less depending on which mode it is set to. So you get moonlight, whatever small amperage range, and optionally a direct-drive mode if you install the external FET. Am I wrong in understanding it that way? That seems far more restrictive vs a PWM’ed FET+7135 driver or similar option with output ranging from moonlight to direct-drive and including everything in between.

I’ll be honest and say I’ve never actually used the LD-4x, but from the datasheet, how I read it is that’s the setting for MAX amps. The mode mode groups then give you the tiers and are a percentage of that MAX. For example, if you set it to 3A, you can have up to a 5 mode group, and it’ll be a percentage of that 3A.

Alternatively, the datasheet says you can uncap it all and just go direct drive for the uppermost level as well.

That’s how I read it

I don’t think that’s the case because for each max amperage setting they also list an associated “down to” minimum current. All the reviews I’ve seen of their drivers explain it as working that way as well.

Max is maximum regulated current. It can be set to anything between 4-6A (in case of 4-6A driver). Number of modes can be configured, each is the percentage of max current. E.g. one of modes will be 30% of 4A or 30% of 4.5A or whatever configured. Furthermore the highest mode can be direct drive, but each of lower modes is still the percentage of the maximum configured current (i.e. 30% of 4.5A in my example)

[BurningPlayd0h]

@g_damian

Max is maximum regulated current. It can be set to anything between 4-6A (in case of 4-6A driver). Number of modes can be configured, each is the percentage of max current. E.g. one of modes will be 30% of 4A or 30% of 4.5A or whatever configured. Furthermore the highest mode can be direct drive, but each of lower modes is still the percentage of the maximum configured current (i.e. 30% of 4.5A in my example)

Then what is the “down to” current they list for each amperage setting?

[KnHawke]

Okay then!
Thanks to all the input, I think I finally nailed down what I’d like for my first build in the Convoy S21 Host:
XHP50.2 6V 6500K
Kaidomain H-1A 6V Boost Driver

Not exactly what I would hope for initially, but this is a start! Ya never know that I could be happy with this

Soon as I get off my ass to go through the BoM of the GB202 and the Switch assembly, I can work with my boss on putting together kits at I hope a reasonable price.
THAT would be my ideal toy to play around with hehe

Thanks again guys!

(FYI, I’m a Senior Supervisory Tech at a Prototype SMT Shop with access to all sorts of goodies for low volume production )

[e1000]

FYI, if you want to spice up the build a little bit, you can try to overclock the H1-A

Buck and Boost Drivers, Testing, Modding, and Discussion (Pic Heavy)

This post is intended for me to document all of the modding and testing I have been doing on various buck and boost drivers I have been playing with lately. For now I am only posting the raw data and some comments on the Kaidomain boost drivers, I will update the OP with more as results come in and I get time. Kaidomain H1-A 20mm “6V” Boost Driver This driver is intended to run an XHP50.2 at approximately 3A output. It is moddable to triple emitter voltages by changing resistor R1 to a higher …

[KnHawke]

@e1000

FYI, if you want to spice up the build a little bit, you can try to overclock the H1-A

Buck and Boost Drivers, Testing, Modding, and Discussion (Pic Heavy)

Neat! Something to tinker with later!
Thanks man!

[KnHawke]

Finally got all the parts in from Convoy and KaiDomain.
To say that I am in love with Simon’s S21A is putting it mildly!
Only a little thicker than my 18650 based Sofirn SP31.V2, and shorter in length!
Weight, only a little heavier, enough that it is almost negligible in difference. The XHP50.2-J4 fits like a glove, heats up on Turbo fairly quickly, doesn’t step down quickly as I have seen already, probably thanks to the IC Diamond Thermal Compound that I used.

Yeap… I’m Happy

Now if Simon would make a 20mm 6V Boost driver, I can get everything from the same source lol