Thorfire TG06 AA or 14500

As I probably mentioned there is a similar model to the TG06 at the SecurityIng shop, the model is SG7 with some minor differences which could be an improvement:
http://de.aliexpress.com/store/product/SecurityIng-Pocketsize-415LM-3-Mode-XPG-R5-LED-Professional-Outdoor-Flashlight-Torch-with-Moonlight-Mode/418718_32349732457.html
And there is a clone of the Thorfire TG05 too, model name is SG6 and it even comes with the same set of spare parts plus a holster:
http://de.aliexpress.com/store/product/SecurityIng-Pocketsize-520LM-5-Modes-XPG-R5-LED-Professional-Outdoor-Flashlight-with-Memory-Function/418718_32342350169.html
One important difference to the TG05 (which I like better then the TG06) is the input voltage range, specified with 1.0~4.2V, that includes 14500!
Since I’ve already got both Thorfires I didn’t order these SecurityIng, but I bought from this shop/brand and was satisfied.

Bummer. Thanks for letting me know. That’s a major factor in my decision. If budget were no issue I’d buy them all but alas… snot the case. :~

Had time today and successfully dedomed my Thorfire TG06. I used the solvent method and it was my first dedome. It is quite a difference, the tint is much more neutral now and the light modes are all the same spacing as before, but it seems a bit more bright with the new tint. The beam is much more compact… I did not take any pictures before and will try to get some up here in a day or two. I killed one of my Hugsby XP-1’s trying to dedome it after this success, but I will put a new emitter on when they arrive from the place I ordered them. Now I want to dedome the Hugsby P31… this is fun…

I put in a different driver and emitter on my TG06 DRIVER EMITTER Both items are from BangGood and are non-affiliated links.

No real issues with the mod, the bigger LED fit the reflector fine. The driver required filing to fit into the pill, so if you do this mod have some patience and a fine file…. Alkaline or NiMh only now…

A GIF of the DeDomed standard TG06 I changed the GIF to L-M-H order from the original L-H-M UI.

And the Modded TG06 from the same distance and the same camera settings. Three modes, L-M-H and a LOT more light.

I did not have any pics of the original LED prior to DeDoming it… But the DeDome made it more yellow and increased the spot, but about the same amount of light… so this is pretty close except for the color to original on Alkaline.
I had some issues filing the driver down to fit, mainly frustration as I did not want to go too far and damage something. Taking it slow helps. The XM-L is a 6k and not as blue as the original. NO PWM on this driver, I lost the 14500 ability, but who cares, this rocks on an Alkaline now and work supplies me with them as I use the light on my hardhat….

Got it in today from EverBuying - $12.53 (at that time) minus $2 of points, so paid $10.53. Mode arrangement of lo-hi-med is a little weird but works. Good quality light - brass pill, PCB mounted tail switch, exc. threads, exc. finish.

Stock #'s on a good Sanyo 14500:

lo: 0.02A - 5.1 lumens, hi: 0.90A - 197 lumens, med: 0.46A - 102 lumens, throw: 2.4 kcd (98m)

** using my PVC elbow light box w/LX1330B light meter

#'s match up pretty close to what they claim. It's a cool white tint for sure.

My ThruNite T10 did 343 lumens running 1.65A on a Sanyo, so this is a bit weaker. The T10 now does 513 lumens on a XP-L mod.

Nice write up with some real numbers! If you do not like the color, just switch out the emitter, cheap enough alternative. I should have tried that before all the driver swap filing. Thanks again for the numbers on this…

I'll probably go with an XP-L on copper and a full blown DD FET driver - 17mm filed down. I like pocket rockets. I have a UniqueFire G10 that does about 1,100 lumens on a EFEST 14500 (XP-L and DD driver). Expect I can get the same on this, but the TG06 is smaller overall.

I look forward to a build thread on that… perhaps I should get another TG06 to follow your build with…

looks interesting.
a replacement for my old sipik.

Don't hold your breath - dunno when I can get to it Smile. Was surprised to see you went with an old style XML T6 on an aluminum star. Definite boost over stock, but an XM-L2 (U2, U3, U4, etc.) on a 16mm Noctigon would have been a better deal - roughly same cost, much more output, better heat sinking, etc.

Took me a while to get to this T10: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/27321, and this SC01 AA size light: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/26146, post #27:

The SC01 is 2nd from the right here, with some AA and 16340 size lights I've modded:

So the driver is soldered in, and it’s smaller than 17mm? Has anyone measured the original driver size?

Close to finishing of the mod of this light. The original driver is about 16 mm. I dremeled/sanded down a wight FET+1 driver to fit, and it works fine. Got custom NOINIT firmware that has first 3 modes on the 7135, then 2 more on the FET, just like I have in my e-switch firmware. I soldered the FET+1 driver at 3 places to the brass pill on the top, and seems to hold well. I aligned the back tab of the 7135 to one of the two slots cut out of the brass pill in order to get the driver to seat down properly. Sanding it down puts the 7135 tab very close to the edge, so it interfered with the pill ledge. Now it fits very well - nearly flush to the pill's edge. I took pics, will post hopefully this eve.

It's got a XP-L V6 3D on a Noctigon - looks real nice with the small OP beam pattern. I put in a 45 sec turbo timeout - should get hot. Not tested on fresh EFEST's yet, and still need to bypass the tailcap spring, etc. Should do at least 1,100 lumens.

Finished the TG06 mod - XP-L V6 3D/Noctigon, FET+1 driver sanded down to fit, 5 modes with first 3 using only the 7135

On a WindyFire 600 mAh @4.22v, 4.02A at tail, lumens: 1,387 @start, 1,234 @30 secs, 7.8 kcd (177 meters) throw

Here's some pics:

Great job Tom. Looks like I need to get one of my own.

Anybody have an SK68 they could post a side-by-side pic? And is it a 16mm button cover?

Ahhh, forgot a SK68. The one to the right of the TG06 is the slim AA zoomie - that one is from GearBest. Yes - the button is the big size, 16 mm I believe. Actually I replaced it because the stock one kind of bulged up a little. The replacement fit well and seems to have a lower profile, so I think it's tailstanding better.

It's a nice quality host for sure - I'd say same quality as a Convoy or Eagle Eye X6. It's got the small white Omten switch - decent. I went for lumens more than throw, with the XP-L, but has a nice soft hot spot with the OP reflector. The smooth knurling is like an X6. Also has the quality smooth 2 hole support for a lanyard. The 5 modes I set it up with is a bit too much maybe, but with this power, it works well. It's a NOINIT based driver, using the brown out detection for OFF time memory.

The reflector is smaller in width than the G10's, and much smaller than the SC01, in the pic to the left, but bigger than the small form factor AA lights.

If/when I get one, it will probably get a Nichia 219C (I have two sitting here that I can’t decide on a place for) and a moonlight driver with 2amp max. I think it would become my EDC.

TomE,

That is a great mod. Where did you get your parts by the way? I like the copper disks and had not seen those anywhere. Did you have to build the driver yourself, or was it pre made? Let us know your sources if you get the chance.

I can answer some of those…

The emitter on Noctigon came from either IOS or RMM

The driver is a wight driver, they aren’t sold anywhere, you build it yourself (or RMM has essentially the same thing for sale)

It looks like he got the copper discs online, maybe etsy? (or other craft supplies)

Yes, all above true. Got the copper rounds from the "bopper" on Etsy, originally recommended by O-L. I have a supply on hand of various diameter copper rounds, I believe 18 gauge is the max thickness they make. You can message Beverly, shop here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/Bopper, and ask for any custom sizes or quantity. She has the best prices I could find, but these copper rounds aren't made for what we use them for, so they aren't perfectly flat. I usually sand them down to at or near flat before installing them (basically they bulge up - one side bumps out in the middle, the other side has a center indent. Since the pill is brass, could reflow the disc to the pill. For alum pills, I use Arctic thermal epoxy.

I had the emitter bare, reflowed to a 16mm Noctigon. The Noctigon needed no trimming/sanding - fit perfect.

The driver is this: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/31102. Sanding down to 16mm gets a little hairy. The grnd tab of the 7135 was interfering with it sitting on the lip in the brass pill, but the pill has those 2 cutouts in it. So, if you align the 7135 tab to one of the cutouts, it seats down perfectly.

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You’re the boss!
Bravo!!!