Turning a Thrower into a Flooder - How?

Nope. What it did was to brighten and widen the spill and it blended the hotspot and corona, reducing its ability to throw. I suppose you can increase the diffusing film or use a diffusing lens to eliminate the hotspot altogether, but, this also reduces output. If you want a wider XM-L hotspot then you’ll need to change reflectors or swap in an emitter with a larger die, like an SST-90.

Well I think I'm still going to get the light. I'll just be prepared if it doesn't diffuse as wide as I hoped.

Oh, and I just came back from ordering the DC Fix on CPFMP - I feel so dirty now coming back from that place! Nothing but trouble trying to post and PM the guy! What a joke! I hope it goes through ok! (Why the heck would I want to make posts in the Marketplace that are anything other than placing an order?? Guess I could raise my post count by asking stupid questions just for the sake of getting a post up - oh, wait, then I'll get reamed out for posting a stupid question and not searching! You can't win over there!)

-Garry

Garry:

I've used the film on a few lights. To me it smooths out the beam, doesn't really turn it into a flooder. Hot spot is retained, but it is more... well, diffuse. Laughing I do think there is a small loss in brightness, but you would only be able to tell with two identical lights side by side or with a light meter/sphere.

I am going to try the stippling to remove a ringy beam from a SMO reflector. Before I do it though, I'll try diffusion film. I suggest you try both - the film can be removed, the spray paint is permanent.

Yeah I don't want "total flood", but I do want a wide beam (think cycling use - see about a 10 to 12 foot swath in front of me and then see a good bit down the trail as well). The "XM-L in a P60" has really become my favorite beam pattern for "real world use". It's been said before, throwers are great for wowing people and playing with, but in everyday use a floodier light is generally what's needed.

BTR, any chance you can get beamshots stock, diffused with film, and sprayed? (I don't think I ever see you post beamshots.) I've ordered the film - well I sent PayPal for it, but I can't get the a PM sent to the guy! Really irritating! I went to PM him from the "regular" CPF site (not CPFMP) and when I click send I get a "database error". Glad we don't deal with this crap over here at BLF!

-Garry

Garry, beamshots are tough for me, mainly lack of time and I've never found a suitable place nearby where I live. Too much light polution in the Chicagoland area and my neighborhood has street lights that seem to mess things up. I'm also a photography moron - but my new iPhone 5 has a pretty good camera, so maybe I'll give it a try. I can promise some good white wall shots of before, diffused and stippled, as I do have that down. I'll see how the weekend goes.

If you can't get the CPFMP thing to work out, take Chicago X up on his offer to send you some. He sent me a 12" x 18" sheet along with a light I bought from him. I think it is enough to last me 10 years. I think he has plenty... Smile

Edit: And I know exactly what you are looking for related to cycling. My JM07 is still my favorite light - floody up front and it still throws way down the road. When I ride with a real flood bar light, I mostly use my P60 size lights as my thrower: L2P, M6, TN30.

I'll see if I get a response to the guy. My posts finally appeared (hours later) in the thread and I posted that I couldn't PM him and sent him an email.

-Garry

I assume the guy you are trying to get over there is the same guy that is a member here as well. Last name Ngyen. He seems to be a good guy and I got my stuff right away (he lives in my city however I believe).

Diffusion IMO is the way to go however there are many degrees of diffusion. Obviously the more the diffusion effect the more light you lose. Some material is more effective than others however.

If you are using a reasonably bright light losing a small amount of light is usually not a problem (to me).

The most interesting experiment is to get the Lee’s Filters sample pack and try their diffusion filters. They are small (no bigger than P60 sized).

They have some filters that diffuse so little that the hotspot still comes through with just a little hazy look to it. You go find other filters where it’s total diffusion.

It’s interesting just to experiment to see what effects you like.

Nope. It's the "Diffussion Film - DC Fix" sales thread. Username="Phaserburn"

-Garry

Try this:

I got my diffuser film now. Indeed, I like it :)

If you feel that one layer doesn't suffice, try covering the lens on both sides.

I can send a 10cm*17cm sheet for 3 USD international, two sheets for 4 USD. PM me if interested.