What did you mod today?

I suggest doing a mock-up before getting to excited about that. I was really pumped to put a red XP-E on the center pad of the XP32 Noctigon under the Cute3 optics, but not after I tried it. It looks sweet as some kind of backlight, glowing just for fun. But it was totally unusable as a beam. The light comes out in a weird psychedelic pattern.

I donā€™t have an M2, but I recall reading on RMMā€™s page that the one he sells is a revised edition. Is there any change between ā€œolderā€ and ā€œnewerā€ that could account for the issues?

Or could the kit have actually been one of the M1 kits?
The old M2 had a brass screw in pill. I think it took a 20ā€ driver.
I think the new ones have an integrated pill.

No idea. I bought 2 as empty hosts and have my first one I got direct from Simon. All are less than 3 months old. All 3 of mine are the FLAT Black finish which I think is even newer than Mtnā€™s description (glossy black). Some pics on the FS page clearly show a M2 head with a shelf.

Ah, itā€™s actually going to be a backlight just like the tailcap. Very dim. I decided not to polish the optics either as I think it will blend the backlight more. I canā€™t think of a way to disable it when I turn the light on like the tailcap light, so it will most likely always be on. Going to go straight up to the Noctigon from the driver using a bleeder resistor.

Did some digging and found a 4th M2 host I didnā€™t know I had. I think I got it from MtnE and it is the glossy finish. Guess what? Parts fit that one. Also noticed the Flat finish ones have TM (trademark) after the Convoy name.
Guess there is gonna be one more M2 Quad in the future. Although I am not as fond of the glossy finish.

Does it also have an integrated head?

Yes, all 4 M2ā€™s I have are the newer ones with integrated emitter shelf.

Did ya get the S15R sorted PD?

Interesting. I didnā€™t know there were 3 versions of M2. I thought all the newer ones had the ultra-flat finish.

Yes, the S15R got sorted. It turns out it was lined up correctly, but wasnā€™t making contact because I either lost or broke a small piece. I replaced that piece with a scrap of plexi and all it well

The taper inside head of the flat black is smaller ID. Glossy head was hogged out more. Brass rings also fit the glossy. Odd too, but the OAL of the Flat is about 3mm longer. That was a quick lookā€¦ havenā€™t checked if all parts swap. Glad I didnā€™t find the glossy earlier. Love the Flat black. HMMM, maybe the Glossy wonā€™t be Blackā€¦ but still glossy. :+1:

Are you sure you have used M2 kit? I suppose you has confused it with M1 X5.
M2 kit is very user-friendly, the most simple mod that can be done with quad.

You should have 3 of them, all were tested by putting inside new M2 from banggood.
P.S. I have met you post by accidental, it is better to contact me via PM if any problems, if there is my fault I always try to fix it and if I will know about it earlier less members will met this problems.
Upd. I can believe that different hosts can have different internal diameters, but I`m sure that all hosts have same reflector. This means same height from pcb shelf to stock glass lens and same spacer height. So, if your host is different, you could met with problems due other host IDs. But if you are saying that you have met problems with height, I can only suppose that you have mixed some parts and used some other spacer.

Continue reading the posts after your quote from myself.
Also I ordered the M2 kits from you and installed it into an M2. I had thought I may have been sent an M1 by mistake but checking the FS I realized I should have the M2 in hand.
Described in the further discussion here, I have realized there are differences in the Last version of the M2 which is Flat Black.
You may want to acquire the latest version M2 host.

I used the parts I was sent. There is no chance I used the wrong parts.

How long have you type this message? I have cross out M1 assumption several hours ago.
Mine M2 is frosted and have no TM near Convoy text.
I understand that probably you don`t interested in opening light that is already build, but I think you can compare reflectors from two different hosts. I can`t believe that they are different.

I used thermal adhesive to hold the copper to aluminum. I will not take that apart. I could pull the bezel and lens for pics. remove optic and brass, but that is as far as I will go.

I did not take internal measurements, I do not have internal calipes that can reach that deep, here at home. But the bore leading to the MCPCB shelf is definitely different ID. No idea how to determine if the taper is also different, but my host now has a ring indention from using lapping compound to see where things did not fit as I reduced the diameter of the upper lip on the copper.

As you can see there is an absolute flush fit to optic and brass. But there is NO room for an O-ring.

Here is the current OD of the brass ring after material removal. It is still a tight fit.

Current thickness of brass after A LOT of material removed by hand.

Here you can See the TPAD is clearly sitting above the copper spacer because there is 2+mm copper shim under it. Even with the shim I still had to reduce the thickness of the brass so the optic was held down and not rattling insideā€¦


What is the lowest moon mode you guys have? I have an S15R that the box says does 0.5lumens. Is that considered really low?

Here are measurements of a Brass ring that has Not been modified. Measured using a Starrett 721 digital caliper.


I have no way of measuring Lm. I have not stepped into that area yet. Butā€¦
I guess people should also post the driver and emitter to that number if a custom build.
Wouldnā€™t the Vf of the emitter play a major role? Let alone driver and FW.

I have a few lights where ML is almost useless, even in complete dark.

vwpieces, could you please make two more measurements:
-this host reflector height
-distance between head top and ring holding lip
Thank you.