I have been trying to keep up with all the posts in here but with all this talk of taxes, multiple payments, different shipping methods, cells bundling, short tubes and multiple lists I am totally confused as to what’s happening.
I am assuming it will all be explained and make sense in the PM we get sent but can I just clarify a few things for my own understanding to make sure I don’t stuff something up during the payment process.
1) We will get sent a PM to make a $14 payment via PayPal to Neal. In this payment we put our BLF name, address and spot on list. I assume the spot on the list is from the core list so for me it would be #82?
2) We will get sent another PM within a short period after making the $14 payment to pay for the rest. This period is yet to be confirmed
3) Where does the short tube, different shipping options etc. fit into all this? Will there be a cart system where we just add the extras before making the final payment?
4) Fortunately we don’t have to pay any import taxes on items <$1000 here so that is of no concern to me.
I apologise in advance if this has already all been explained somewhere, I did try to look but was unsuccessful.
1) Yes, yes, but you are #79 not #82, due to people before you wanting multiple lights/withdrawing. I believe the order is in The GT List.
2) Something like this, I believe they are trying to find a way to mass PM without having to individually contact everyone.
3) I believe we can somehow make a choice, either on a lumintop hosted page or otherwise? Otherwise this is just administrative and I’m sure Lumintop/the GT team will have a solution.
I don’t believe there is a short tube option, maybe in the future.
Oh man, was really hoping for a short tube option. I love the short tube look, and as a complete playtoy, It seems like a waste to dedicate 8 cells for a light I wouldn’t need to last more than a night’s walk. For something so seemingly easy to produce, I really hope it will be offered as an option/at extra cost.
Unless they made the prototype short tubes on a manual lathe, (which is unlikely), it should be trivial for them to make more at a later date. I’d be very surprised if they aren’t made available eventually.
Yes thanks Mr Scott!
Sorted list is in and I will post it later.
The GT works with 4 or 8 cells, there is no need to allocate 8 cells.
A short tube is not planned, if I see how confusing it is now for a lot of people it seems best not to pursue it now for it would make things more confusing.
I totally understand it is all a bit strange, it grew complex finding solutions but the info is in the OP.
@ Mr. Scott
Just to be sure I understand correctly.
The first list in Post #3 is (when completely updated) .. the official purchase list??
Yes or No
Thank you…
Thanks for asking, as I would also like to know.
Your welcome. I am kinda in the same boat LSX is in.
I did not think there was to be accessories or choices… except batteries. But apparently I was wrong.
I see mention of hard case for $20, short tube for $10, & seems like something else I can’t remember atm. Sounds good though…. I was just confused it seems.
…….. EDIT: Miller & I were posting at same time. I see there is no short tube. Thanks TM.
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Is there mentioning of a hard case or short tube as options in the OP?
It shouldnt so if I accidentally added it resulting in confusion, let me know so I can delete it
Is there mentioning of a hard case or short tube as options in the OP?
It shouldnt so if I accidentally added it resulting in confusion, let me know so I can delete it
No I saw it a few post back where the short tube was mengioned for $10, case for $20, 2 chargers for $50, and something else???
Maybe I ready the post wrong or something??? I don’t know atm…..
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Would be awesome for sure!
Hard case 20
GT + set orings and lens 250
Short tube 10
8 cells 48
2x lii500 charger 50
$378 / ~$400 excluded shipping seems an OK (but expensive nevertheless ) price to ask for such set.
Not that it will be a groupbuy thing but I can see LT do it.
This was it. Sure enough I had misread when I scanned over it.
I thought this was now being offered. My bad…..
Edit…… Thank goodness it was a misread on my part. Didn’t want any of this stuff anyway & it might have delayed things to boot.
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
I see, apologies for adding to the confusion. There isnt any mention in the OP, but there are links to MRsDNF’s and DEL’s reviews of a short tubed version, which probably lead to my understanding that there will be such an option.
I understand it works with either/both cell carriers, but it just feels wrong to have so much wasted space in a portable device. Oh well, it is what it is, and hopefully such an option is presented in the future if it is not now.
Ah you mean the post below?
Just read ALL the text and same as with the OP, you’ll see there is much less reason for confusion then only reading the stuff you want or wish for
The Miller wrote:
Would be awesome for sure!
Hard case 20
GT + set orings and lens 250
Short tube 10
8 cells 48
2x lii500 charger 50
$378 / ~$400 excluded shipping seems an OK (but expensive nevertheless ) price to ask for such set.
Not that it will be a groupbuy thing but I can see LT do it.
I see, apologies for adding to the confusion. There isnt any mention in the OP, but there are links to MRsDNF’s and DEL’s reviews of a short tubed version, which probably lead to my understanding that there will be such an option.
I understand it works with either/both cell carriers, but it just feels wrong to have so much wasted space in a portable device. Oh well, it is what it is, and hopefully such an option is presented in the future if it is not now.
you see it wrong, it is not a wast of space, it is a feature that makes the cary more easy because of the balance being better AND a way to very easy double the runtimes if one wants/needs it
Yeah, I had got behind over the last couple of days and was just scanning over the off topic stuff and got that mixed up with the real.
I’ll be more careful next time….. my apologies for the confusion.
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
The final LED tint has not be found by lumintop yet, we are asking for 3D but 3A might be available in a higher bin. We will see what they find.
From all accounts I have heard most do not even try to dedome them. I was sent a few of them that had the phosphor pulled off with the dome. Never tried it myself as I hate the tint shift. Plus I could not afford to kill one.
It is not a job for the faint of heart, that is for sure.
Old post, but i tried and made a successful dedome on XHP35 led on the first try. The led was some unknown bin and tint, cool white tho but not exact numbers. It all went very smooth and fast, 30 min or so in a hot nitro paint thinner.
So led swap is going to happen, i am sure that the gain will be not significant at all but we must keep the BLF spirit, mod everything you can to squeeze every last lumen/candela out of it
The first list in Post #3 is (when completely updated) .. the official purchase list??
Yes or No
Thank you...
Simple answer:YES.
Complete answer: There is only one official list. The Miller keeps the official list in Post #1. The official list is kept in chronological order, based on order of request. The GT Team decided that to get this light into as many hands a possible, all 1st request for the GT would be honored before 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc requests for the GT. The list in Post #3 is ordered based on that decision, but is derived from the official list in Post #1. The list in Post #3 is not "official" until certified as official by a certifying official. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. May cause itching, rash, or swelling at treatment site. In case of an erection lasting more than four hours please seek medical help. You mileage may vary. Taxes, tags, and title extra.
The final LED tint has not be found by lumintop yet, we are asking for 3D but 3A might be available in a higher bin. We will see what they find.
From all accounts I have heard most do not even try to dedome them. I was sent a few of them that had the phosphor pulled off with the dome. Never tried it myself as I hate the tint shift. Plus I could not afford to kill one.
It is not a job for the faint of heart, that is for sure.
Old post, but i tried and made a successful dedome on XHP35 led on the first try. The led was some unknown bin and tint, cool white tho but not exact numbers. It all went very smooth and fast, 30 min or so in a hot nitro paint thinner.
So led swap is going to happen, i am sure that the gain will be not significant at all but we must keep the BLF spirit, mod everything you can to squeeze every last lumen/candela out of it
I’ve done several HD35 de-domes the increase over the HI is significant, the E2-1A gives the best tint, get rid of the phosphor around the LED for a cleaner spot.
I run them just at 2.8-3amps for even more throw, try de-doming some XHP50 and 70’s, the de-domed XHP50 in my TK61 is pretty impressive too!
Haha Mr.Scott, it is such a gift you decided to do the sorting and make mass PMs easier with SB
It takes away a lot of hunen error possibility , very useful in this strange GT situation that is rather complex and where errors could lead to very unhappy people, can’t thank you enough
I would not feel comfortable dedoming an XHP35, and am glad there is the hi version to be used.
I take my hat of to those who dare do it
I just had a thought that worried me, what if there is a problem or glitch with the PM system and some people on the list don’t get the payment request message and miss their opportunity to send their down-payment on time…
Can I ask that when you start sending the mass PM’s that you update the list so we all know what members in the list have been sent the payment request, and who has already paid?
we are about to test the mass pm sending.
of course a list of people paid will be kept
And yes it seems smart to post the nicknames of those to whom the pm is send to, good idea
Both the 1st list in post #3 and the alphabetical list in post #3 will be updated.
Blanks are in the core list (post #1) but not in the sorted lists (post #3).
2nd lights are moved beyond 1st lights. The transition between 1st lights and 2nd lights is currently between #620 and #621.
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All payments after review of retail version.
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Man i am so confused with all these lists. All i know is im #251 lol
@ Mr. Scott
Just to be sure I understand correctly.
The first list in Post #3 is (when completely updated) .. the official purchase list??
Yes or No
Thank you…
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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I have been trying to keep up with all the posts in here but with all this talk of taxes, multiple payments, different shipping methods, cells bundling, short tubes and multiple lists I am totally confused as to what’s happening.
I am assuming it will all be explained and make sense in the PM we get sent but can I just clarify a few things for my own understanding to make sure I don’t stuff something up during the payment process.
1) We will get sent a PM to make a $14 payment via PayPal to Neal. In this payment we put our BLF name, address and spot on list. I assume the spot on the list is from the core list so for me it would be #82?
2) We will get sent another PM within a short period after making the $14 payment to pay for the rest. This period is yet to be confirmed
3) Where does the short tube, different shipping options etc. fit into all this? Will there be a cart system where we just add the extras before making the final payment?
4) Fortunately we don’t have to pay any import taxes on items <$1000 here so that is of no concern to me.
I apologise in advance if this has already all been explained somewhere, I did try to look but was unsuccessful.
Thanks!
@LSX,
From what I understand
1) Yes, yes, but you are #79 not #82, due to people before you wanting multiple lights/withdrawing. I believe the order is in The GT List.
2) Something like this, I believe they are trying to find a way to mass PM without having to individually contact everyone.
3) I believe we can somehow make a choice, either on a lumintop hosted page or otherwise? Otherwise this is just administrative and I’m sure Lumintop/the GT team will have a solution.
4)
I don’t believe there is a short tube option, maybe in the future.
You’ll specify shipping option in your paypal note. DHL or two separate boxes.
Thanks for asking, as I would also like to know.
Oh man, was really hoping for a short tube option. I love the short tube look, and as a complete playtoy, It seems like a waste to dedicate 8 cells for a light I wouldn’t need to last more than a night’s walk. For something so seemingly easy to produce, I really hope it will be offered as an option/at extra cost.
Unless they made the prototype short tubes on a manual lathe, (which is unlikely), it should be trivial for them to make more at a later date. I’d be very surprised if they aren’t made available eventually.
Yes thanks Mr Scott!
Sorted list is in and I will post it later.
The GT works with 4 or 8 cells, there is no need to allocate 8 cells.
A short tube is not planned, if I see how confusing it is now for a lot of people it seems best not to pursue it now for it would make things more confusing.
I totally understand it is all a bit strange, it grew complex finding solutions but the info is in the OP.
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
I did not think there was to be accessories or choices… except batteries. But apparently I was wrong.
I see mention of hard case for $20,

short tube for $10, & seems like something else I can’t remember atm. Sounds good though…. I was just confused it seems.……..
EDIT: Miller & I were posting at same time. I see there is no short tube. Thanks TM.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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Is there mentioning of a hard case or short tube as options in the OP?
It shouldnt so if I accidentally added it resulting in confusion, let me know so I can delete it
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
Maybe I ready the post wrong or something??? I don’t know atm…..
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Texas Lumens Flashlights / M4D M4X Deals : sign up - save $$$$
Rudeness Level _ mΩ _ {width:70%} _ LightWiki _ LED Tint Chart
Xlamp size chart _ BatteryU _ Flashaholic? Need Professional Help??? TheOriginal _ TAB _ LightSearch _ BatterySearch _ 14500's _ DiCal
I thought this was now being offered. My bad…..
Edit…… Thank goodness it was a misread on my part. Didn’t want any of this stuff anyway & it might have delayed things to boot.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Texas Lumens Flashlights / M4D M4X Deals : sign up - save $$$$
Rudeness Level _ mΩ _ {width:70%} _ LightWiki _ LED Tint Chart
Xlamp size chart _ BatteryU _ Flashaholic? Need Professional Help??? TheOriginal _ TAB _ LightSearch _ BatterySearch _ 14500's _ DiCal
I see, apologies for adding to the confusion. There isnt any mention in the OP, but there are links to MRsDNF’s and DEL’s reviews of a short tubed version, which probably lead to my understanding that there will be such an option.
I understand it works with either/both cell carriers, but it just feels wrong to have so much wasted space in a portable device. Oh well, it is what it is, and hopefully such an option is presented in the future if it is not now.
Ah you mean the post below?
Just read ALL the text and same as with the OP, you’ll see there is much less reason for confusion then only reading the stuff you want or wish for
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
you see it wrong, it is not a wast of space, it is a feature that makes the cary more easy because of the balance being better AND a way to very easy double the runtimes if one wants/needs it
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
Yeah, I had got behind over the last couple of days and was just scanning over the off topic stuff and got that mixed up with the real.

I’ll be more careful next time….. my apologies for the confusion.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Texas Lumens Flashlights / M4D M4X Deals : sign up - save $$$$
Rudeness Level _ mΩ _ {width:70%} _ LightWiki _ LED Tint Chart
Xlamp size chart _ BatteryU _ Flashaholic? Need Professional Help??? TheOriginal _ TAB _ LightSearch _ BatterySearch _ 14500's _ DiCal
No problems
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
Old post, but i tried and made a successful dedome on XHP35 led on the first try. The led was some unknown bin and tint, cool white tho but not exact numbers. It all went very smooth and fast, 30 min or so in a hot nitro paint thinner.
So led swap is going to happen, i am sure that the gain will be not significant at all but we must keep the BLF spirit, mod everything you can to squeeze every last lumen/candela out of it
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Simple answer: YES.
Complete answer: There is only one official list. The Miller keeps the official list in Post #1. The official list is kept in chronological order, based on order of request. The GT Team decided that to get this light into as many hands a possible, all 1st request for the GT would be honored before 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc requests for the GT. The list in Post #3 is ordered based on that decision, but is derived from the official list in Post #1. The list in Post #3 is not "official" until certified as official by a certifying official. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. May cause itching, rash, or swelling at treatment site. In case of an erection lasting more than four hours please seek medical help. You mileage may vary. Taxes, tags, and title extra.
Lithium Ion Battery Safety
I’ve done several HD35 de-domes the increase over the HI is significant, the E2-1A gives the best tint, get rid of the phosphor around the LED for a cleaner spot.
I run them just at 2.8-3amps for even more throw, try de-doming some XHP50 and 70’s, the de-domed XHP50 in my TK61 is pretty impressive too!
Nice work!
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need more beamshots
enough of this shipping talk
Haha Mr.Scott, it is such a gift you decided to do the sorting and make mass PMs easier with SB
It takes away a lot of hunen error possibility , very useful in this strange GT situation that is rather complex and where errors could lead to very unhappy people, can’t thank you enough
I would not feel comfortable dedoming an XHP35, and am glad there is the hi version to be used.
I take my hat of to those who dare do it
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
how about some beamshots or updates about changes in the carriers or photos of the new reflector instead of the money, shipping, taxes talk?
Yes when definite things are known we will post it ASAP
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
I just had a thought that worried me, what if there is a problem or glitch with the PM system and some people on the list don’t get the payment request message and miss their opportunity to send their down-payment on time…
Can I ask that when you start sending the mass PM’s that you update the list so we all know what members in the list have been sent the payment request, and who has already paid?
What do you all think?
we are about to test the mass pm sending.
of course a list of people paid will be kept
And yes it seems smart to post the nicknames of those to whom the pm is send to, good idea
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
So is entry still possible?
Would be awesome if my name was on the List
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