Not sure why the relative throwiness reverses sometimes, but the 10511’s throw increases if you polish the frosted part by rubbing it on fabric or something… and afterward it still has less corona artifacts than the 10507. It’s too bad they don’t seem to come in a non-frosted 10511 variety.
Here are a few configuration estimates, taking into account the optic specs and an estimated lumen count:
219c w/ 10507: ~3000 lm, ~9.9 kcd lux
219c w/ 10511: ~2950 lm, ~8.5 kcd lux
XP-G2 w/ 10507: ~2500 lm, ~11.9 kcd lux
XP-G2 w/ 10511: ~2400 lm, ~13.2 kcd lux
XP-G3 w/ 10507: ~3600 lm, ~11.1 kcd lux
XP-G3 w/ 10511: ~3500 lm, ~9.5 kcd lux
XP-L HI w/ 10507: ~3350 lm, (no cd/lm data available, guessing ~18.7 kcd lux)
XP-L HI w/ 10511: ~3300 lm, (no cd/lm data available, guessing ~20.8 kcd lux)
These are all totally theoretical though, using numbers from Carclo’s specs and measurements of similar lights. They’re probably pretty far off from reality. Mostly I just wanted to show that there are a variety of sweet spots for different use cases. The FW3A’s specified config is one of those sweet spots, but other options might be interesting later too.
Mostly, I just think the 10511’s beam looks a lot smoother, and the difference in throw is usually small. Here’s how they compare in two of my lights… 10507 on the left, 10511 on the right:
The best beam I've seen come from a triple was with a polished 10511 and dedomed xpe torch LEDs. It throws at least double of xpl hi and it's still very usable up close.
It's downfall is the tint is terrible imo and the output is only about 1400 lumens with a FET driver but the beam profile is perfect.
I thought I was on the list for this, but I probably have it confused with one of the other projects that are in the works. Miller would you please go ahead and add my name.
Sorry if that was discussed earlier - i haven’t read the whole thread.
I’m already on the list for one and i would be in for a second one if there was a high CRI (Nichia 219c 90+?) option available at some point. Only one emitter choice is it?
As it goes, i’ll probably want a second one anyway. :person_facepalming:
Let us combine a few pieces of information we have gathered, the first came to the Q8 team today.
We have received word the factories that make (parts of) the Q8 are busy for the last quarter production, a busy season.
Lumintop wants to get the GT done before their production for busy season is in full swing.
We have not reached a stage of prototyping the FW3A, it is all CADs.
My guess is this one might take a while. And if I had to say when, judging by how fast Lumintop can work I’d say Q1/Q2 2018
Q8 is build by a different manufacturer, so there are no links between the two projects. Also, Q8 is afaik already in production (at least a first batch)
Legal 710 I understand all about that. The Miller made a post about it on the previous page so I thought it prudent to ask for clarification in the same thread. Thanks