Sorry to mess in this, but to avoid any further unnecessary discussion and more posts that will distract from what is / will be important anytime soon – so I hope – let’s just stop this cat fight conversation that will lead us to nowhere!!
Those who wanna be on the list, have that right; those who don’t have that right too! But’s let’s not start a freakin’ argument all over again because of the delay of this – soon to be – incredible flashlight!!
Lol, if you are offended by knives, you must be rendered speechless by gasp a hunting rifle.
You could not imagine how wrong you are about that. But we don’t talk about these things in public.
Those who do, generally get crucified, but if it promotes their you tube and other outlets, they just don’t care. Happened this week with Larysa Switlyk in the UK. She’s taking a two week break from media until the opprobrium dies down.
I disapprove of what she does, by the way, it is unnecessary.
Meanwhile I’ll carrying on doing what I do and not talking about it.
I unsubscribed to this thread months ago because of the fighting over tints and emitters. Now I see Lord Of The Onion Rings has got it all fired up over something that nobody has even paid for yet. Genius.
Vaporware? Maybe. Might be worth the wait though. Guess we shall see.
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FWIW, Neal is trying to make this happen quickly. If I understand correctly, things are just waiting on Fritz to make some minor host adjustments and then I think it’s supposed to be ready for production.
It’s just a bit difficult to get in touch with Fritz lately. Last I heard, he kinda just stopped in the middle of a
Oh well, wherever and whenever there is Tom Tom, you can bet your bottom dollar it’s just a matter of time, and posts, that things are going to get messy, as he stirs the pot the wrong way.
(snip)…….I would be incredibly interested to see just what has been going on that has taken up all the time it would take to either post some impressions of the latest prototype or to send one of them to someone who would be happy to, like someone who has had a previous version for awhile, has been active on this thread…
…. Amen to that, send one to her!!
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(snip)…… the idea that killing something to eat is shameful compared to having someone else do it for you, or that it’s not as humane overall compared to how modern meat is farmed. (snip)
….. Funny how that works isn’t it?? The irony is overwhelming…..
Don’t pity the fawn… at least he has a chance to live free.
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With all due respect to the team in charge of this project… the project management on this one is shit.
Why don’t you send the prototype to TK instead of a ghost ?
How one doesn’t have an ounce of respect to not crash by this thread and give us his impression about the last proto ?
I know we’re on the Internet and human interactions are somewhat biased, but would you let thousand of people in the silence while YOU can finally enjoy a nearly finished product that they are waiting for ?
Come on, it takes 5min to snap a couple of pix and share your overall impressions about it !
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Come on, it takes 5min to snap a couple of pix and share your overall impressions about it !
This. Even thinking about cancelling.
I thought I was the only one… except for Tom Tom.
He might have some rude words and acting a bit like a troll, I get what he says.
I mean, it’s been more than a year now… it’s supposed to be a novelty item and will be obsolete before we’ll be able to buy it
How does Emisar launch such quality lights 4 times a year and Lumintop doesn’t manage to finish this simple project ?
Do not throw mechanical arguments to my face and re-type things like “ther’s some tight tolerances, and they have to find a way to insulate the inner tube…” come on, it’s just basic mechanics…
I’m a prototype engineer, it’s my job to test and try new techs… so quit the bullsh*t and make it done.
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"-X3-, is there any place in your house without a flashlight ?"
If this project has a happy ending, I will own a fantastic beautiful little light.
If not, I have the thought that it may have cost me a bit of a dream, but certainly no money.
Don’t rush things. Better safe than sorry. One Cometa is enough.
If this project just keeps on moving forward, chances are that it will be finished in my lifetime.
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The FW3A seems to have been put on the back burner while Lumintop focused on a lot of their other projects. S#!+ Stuff happens. ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯
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It has nothing to do with stress or lack of patience as far as I am concerned.
From what we have been told, IIRC; Lumintop is ready to go on this…. so why blame them. They appear to be waiting on final approval of the last 2 prototypes sent out & received a few seeks ago.
We were told that Neal sent a prototype to two guys. They received them weeks ago and we have heard nothing at all from those two guys about the light.
This is what X3 was saying I think. How long does it take to post a couple of pictures & at least some first impressions?? Answer = Not very long at all.
If they are not going to do it, send the light to TK; I am 99.9999999% positive she will do it….. and do it in a timely manner.
Again…. this has nothing to do with lack of patience on the supporters of this light or with Lumintop.
It has a lot to do with two guys, apparently; drag arsing around and not communicating and/or giving the final thumbs up or thumbs down so production can start or changes be made.
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.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
We were told that Neal sent a prototype to two guys. They received them weeks ago and we have heard nothing at all from those two guys about the light.
From what I gather Cawi tested the new prototype, but since he has no technical input on the project he had nothing meaningful to report compared to the previous one. Fritz received the prototype five weeks ago and is still MIA despite Lumintop waiting solely on a specific minor alteration to a CAD file from him. For whatever reason Neal did not see fit to send a new prototype to ToyKeeper, the only project member who is consistently engaged with the community.
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Please try to be patient. I know it’s uncomfortable waiting, not knowing what’s going on, but it doesn’t accomplish anything to assume the worst and let assumptions turn into anger. It generally just makes things worse.
People have lives outside of the forum, and that takes precedence. Like how RMM hasn’t been around much lately… and it turns out the reason is because he and his wife had a daughter, born about two months early, and they’ve been working around the clock to help their newborn survive. Or when The Miller disappeared, because his place got flooded and then he was ill for a long time. These things happen.
I don’t know what’s keeping Fritz away. I just know his last message stopped in the middle of a thought and he hasn’t responded since. Maybe … Something Happened. ™(*)
So we’re trying to get in touch, to make sure he’s okay and try to move the project along.
* It’s a mystery. Perhaps even an action-packed psychological thriller by M. Night Shyamalan. One of these days he’s bound to make a movie called: Something Happened
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Sorry to mess in this, but to avoid any further unnecessary discussion and more posts that will distract from what is / will be important anytime soon – so I hope
– let’s just stop this cat fight conversation that will lead us to nowhere!!
Those who wanna be on the list, have that right; those who don’t have that right too! But’s let’s not start a freakin’ argument all over again because of the delay of this – soon to be – incredible flashlight!!
Let’s move on :ARROW-RIGHT:
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You could not imagine how wrong you are about that. But we don’t talk about these things in public.
Those who do, generally get crucified, but if it promotes their you tube and other outlets, they just don’t care. Happened this week with Larysa Switlyk in the UK. She’s taking a two week break from media until the opprobrium dies down.
I disapprove of what she does, by the way, it is unnecessary.
Meanwhile I’ll carrying on doing what I do and not talking about it.
Haha, Tamatoa was the first thing I thought of as well.
I unsubscribed to this thread months ago because of the fighting over tints and emitters. Now I see Lord Of The Onion Rings has got it all fired up over something that nobody has even paid for yet. Genius.
Vaporware? Maybe. Might be worth the wait though. Guess we shall see.
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FWIW, Neal is trying to make this happen quickly. If I understand correctly, things are just waiting on Fritz to make some minor host adjustments and then I think it’s supposed to be ready for production.
It’s just a bit difficult to get in touch with Fritz lately. Last I heard, he kinda just stopped in the middle of a
“It’s just a bit difficult to get in touch with Fritz lately. Last I heard, he kinda just stopped in the middle of a”
BM?
No thanks, I already had a bowel movement today.
Oh well, wherever and whenever there is Tom Tom, you can bet your bottom dollar it’s just a matter of time, and posts, that things are going to get messy, as he stirs the pot the wrong way.
i’m interested in on, thanks!
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Did you move recently, or have you lived there since before everyone else discovered that rather unique piece of property?
Don’t pity the fawn… at least he has a chance to live free.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
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With all due respect to the team in charge of this project… the project management on this one is shit.
Why don’t you send the prototype to TK instead of a ghost ?
How one doesn’t have an ounce of respect to not crash by this thread and give us his impression about the last proto ?
I know we’re on the Internet and human interactions are somewhat biased, but would you let thousand of people in the silence while YOU can finally enjoy a nearly finished product that they are waiting for ?
Come on, it takes 5min to snap a couple of pix and share your overall impressions about it !
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/\ . +500 . This no feedback stuff is somewhat ridiculous. TK should have received a Prototype no doubt.
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This. Even thinking about cancelling.
It seems some here are not equipped for the stress, waiting, etc.. associated with a Group Buy/project light.
My suggestion is to forget about this project and maybe buy it retail if you still want it.
You will be much happier.
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I thought I was the only one… except for Tom Tom.
He might have some rude words and acting a bit like a troll, I get what he says.
I mean, it’s been more than a year now… it’s supposed to be a novelty item and will be obsolete before we’ll be able to buy it
How does Emisar launch such quality lights 4 times a year and Lumintop doesn’t manage to finish this simple project ?
Do not throw mechanical arguments to my face and re-type things like “ther’s some tight tolerances, and they have to find a way to insulate the inner tube…” come on, it’s just basic mechanics…
I’m a prototype engineer, it’s my job to test and try new techs… so quit the bullsh*t and make it done.
"-X3-, is there any place in your house without a flashlight ?"
My Flashlight public album (mods, emitter swaps, eye candy)
My reviews channel (French language, Olight, Thorfire, Sofirn, Lumintop : 60+ lights tested)
My personal channel (including Olight SR mini, S1, S2, S1A and S-mini disassembly)
M4DM4X blog, saves you $$$
If this project has a happy ending, I will own a fantastic beautiful little light.
If not, I have the thought that it may have cost me a bit of a dream, but certainly no money.
Don’t rush things. Better safe than sorry. One Cometa is enough.
If this project just keeps on moving forward, chances are that it will be finished in my lifetime.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
+1
The FW3A seems to have been put on the back burner while Lumintop focused on a lot of their other projects.
S#!+Stuff happens. ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯Texas Ace Lumen Tube and JoshK Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights
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Lumintop is waiting on Fritz, they’re ready to produce the light with a minor adjustment to a dimension.
It has nothing to do with stress or lack of patience as far as I am concerned.
From what we have been told, IIRC; Lumintop is ready to go on this…. so why blame them. They appear to be waiting on final approval of the last 2 prototypes sent out & received a few seeks ago.
We were told that Neal sent a prototype to two guys. They received them weeks ago and we have heard nothing at all from those two guys about the light.
This is what X3 was saying I think. How long does it take to post a couple of pictures & at least some first impressions?? Answer = Not very long at all.
If they are not going to do it, send the light to TK; I am 99.9999999% positive she will do it….. and do it in a timely manner.
Again…. this has nothing to do with lack of patience on the supporters of this light or with Lumintop.
It has a lot to do with two guys, apparently; drag arsing around and not communicating and/or giving the final thumbs up or thumbs down so production can start or changes be made.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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I have to imagine Lumintop must or maybe be getting perturbed about this also, with what they invested in this project so far, no?
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I always have patience with these group buys, it is a must, but i completely agree that the recent silence has been annoying, to say the least.
I imagine your correct KawiBoy1428.
Totally agree cabfrank.
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From what I gather Cawi tested the new prototype, but since he has no technical input on the project he had nothing meaningful to report compared to the previous one. Fritz received the prototype five weeks ago and is still MIA despite Lumintop waiting solely on a specific minor alteration to a CAD file from him. For whatever reason Neal did not see fit to send a new prototype to ToyKeeper, the only project member who is consistently engaged with the community.
Please try to be patient. I know it’s uncomfortable waiting, not knowing what’s going on, but it doesn’t accomplish anything to assume the worst and let assumptions turn into anger. It generally just makes things worse.
People have lives outside of the forum, and that takes precedence. Like how RMM hasn’t been around much lately… and it turns out the reason is because he and his wife had a daughter, born about two months early, and they’ve been working around the clock to help their newborn survive. Or when The Miller disappeared, because his place got flooded and then he was ill for a long time. These things happen.
I don’t know what’s keeping Fritz away. I just know his last message stopped in the middle of a thought and he hasn’t responded since. Maybe … Something Happened. ™(*)
So we’re trying to get in touch, to make sure he’s okay and try to move the project along.
* It’s a mystery. Perhaps even an action-packed psychological thriller by M. Night Shyamalan. One of these days he’s bound to make a movie called: Something Happened
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