Tatasal… just to be clear, I do not advocate the removal of the “Quote” button. I also think it is very valuable. Yeah, it can be abused intentionally or more likely unintentionally…. but that is rare.
I was just using that as a way to save bandwidth since saving it was mentioned…… IF saving bandwidth was what any of this was really about in the first place, which I highly doubt.
Thanks, but no need for a ’Sig Thread’ either, as far as I am concerned.
Signatures are for other people to see, and optionally for other people to click on. There are other ways to keep personal bookmarks, like in the browser itself or in a separate thread for links one finds useful.
It’s also a good idea to keep in mind the effect signatures have on search engines. For example, if someone wants to list the lights they have, it’s typically better to make the list an image instead of doing it in text, because text tends to mislead the search engines. It ends up guiding people toward a signature about “X” instead of a thread about “X”.
Long signatures also have some unfortunate interactions with my interest-list update script, but that shouldn’t matter to anyone except me. Basically, the sig content trains the script to ignore any posts with long signatures, and when I’m viewing posts that way, the actual post content scrolls offscreen entirely and all I see is the signature, so I might miss requests which have a long sig afterward.
Yeah… Taking things to their logical extreme usually accomplishes nothing. It’s typically inflammatory but not productive. For example:
No one suggested this. This type of response is called a straw man fallacy, giving the impression of refuting an idea but actually refuting a different idea which nobody brought up. Specifically, this is a sub-category of that called reductio ad absurdum, or appeal to extremes. Like, if someone says “Walking across a busy highway tends to get people hurt… so don’t do that.”, and someone responds “If we restrict walking, we should just outlaw walking entirely.”
Hopefully it’s clear how this kind of thing can interfere with any meaningful or productive discussion. Most topics aren’t all-or-nothing, they have some sort of optimal point in the middle. Finding the sweet spot is a matter of nuance, subtle adjustments in pursuit of balance. Dismissing nuance in favor of logical extremes… doesn’t help. It tosses the baby out with the bath water.
This is how BLF celebrates CNY.
At least we’re not debating the finer points of Joe Biden eating a sandwich. As Randall Munroe says, our brains have just one scale, and we resize our experiences to fit. So during CNY when nothing is happening but the brain needs something to do, “nothing” starts to feel like “something” and we argue about nothing.
This is the last I will have to say on the subject.
It was suggested more than once that bandwidth needed to be conserved & saved.
It was suggested one way of doing this was eliminating “long signatures”.
The other ‘extremes’ I suggested were done so, as already stated; in a further effort to conserve bandwidth…. a lot of bandwidth really.
So, ’if’ the goal is truly to conserve bandwidth…. let’s really take all possible actions to conserve it…. rather than pick & choose.
Is there middle ground on this, personally I don’t think so unless we pick & choose. YMMV.
As far as my sig line…. anyone is more than welcome to click on anything there. Someone might find something helpful and/or interesting. Most probably will not however…… just like with every other BLF sig line containing links.
Most people probably never click a single link……