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It’s pretty obvious it’s using a Luxeon V.
It’s the only other Lumileds emitter that could do this on DD without being a Luxeon MZ.
Still, I’m quite interested in the light. Please send in the code freeme.
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What are differences in tints below. Please advise.
Luminus SST40 CW
Philips Luxeon NW
XP-L HI CW
XP-L HI NW
If not DD, I am interested in the SST40 version.
There are total of 4 emitter options to choose from.
Luminus SST40 CW
Philips Luxeon NW
XP-L HI CW
XP-L HI NW
Interested, can you give a description of how is the lumens and throw for each LED type?
I know XPL-Hi is throwy, and should be something like 1000-1300 lumens (basing from other flashlights using XPL-Hi)
Luminus SST40 is a mixed flood/throw LED (probably similar to XHP50.2), with around 2000-2200 lumens (basing from other flashlights with this LED).
I’m not familiar with the Philips Luxeon LED — how is the lumens and the throw compared to the XPL-Hi and SST40?
freeme:There are total of 4 emitter options to choose from.
Luminus SST40 CW
Philips Luxeon NW
XP-L HI CW
XP-L HI NW
Interested, can you give a description of how is the lumens and throw for each LED type?
I know XPL-Hi is throwy, and should be something like 1000-1300 lumens (basing from other flashlights using XPL-Hi)
Luminus SST40 is a mixed flood/throw LED (probably similar to XHP50.2), with around 2000-2200 lumens (basing from other flashlights with this LED).I’m not familiar with the Philips Luxeon LED — how is the lumens and the throw compared to the XPL-Hi and SST40?
Shouldn’t SST-40 be the same as XML2 die-size-wise?
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The Amutorch Ali store indicates these specs:
Specification:
Material: T6 Aluminum alloy
Battery: Not included, powered by one 21700 li-ion battery
LED: Luminus SST40 2200lm / Philips LumiLEDs LUXEON 2200lm / CREE XP-L HI 1200lm
Light color: Cool white & Nature white
Lens: Highly transparent tempered coated glass
Switch Location & Type: Side and tail of the flashlight
Impact Resistant: 1m
Max Output: 2200Lumens
Waterproof: IPX-8 Waterproof,under water 2m
Color: Military Grey
Weight: 280gUI Mode: Fully Press the tail switch to turn on/off the flashlight, press slightly the switch at the side of the torch to adjust the light, which are successively Low, Med, High, Turbo (double-click quickly), Strobe (quickly triple-click quickly). The strobe function can be activated by double-click quickly at any luminance level.
Features:
Material: Adopt quality T6 aviation aluminum Alloy manufactured through CNC during the whole process. the surface is processed with hardened and wear-resistant 3rd level hard oxidation. Scratch proof and wear-resistent.Low voltage warning & Reverse polarity protection: Practical and durable with high quality constant current drive circuit! It has reverse polarity protection function and low voltage prompt function.
Super white tempered double-sided anti-reflection AR-Coating lens…
Integrated lamp head, solid aluminum, Unique encrypted radiating fins, Faster cooling performance.
Unique solid and integral heat dissipation structure at lamp head, discarding independent circuitry cabin that conducting heat through medium. Removing the heat conducting oxide layer after oxidation through CNC in order to achieve a quicker heat and energy conduction and dissipation generated by LED, thus extending the lifetime of LED and slowing down light wane!
Pure purple base plate with thermal and electrical separation process is used for LED base plate. thus extending the lifetime of LED.
The inner electric conducting PCB and the anti-chatter spring.
Cool white and Nature white are available:
Cool White: color temperature 6500K, white light, bright strengthening, maximum luminance can reach 1200 lumens!
Nature White: color temperature (4800K), strong penetrability, good color rendering property, excellent performance in rain and fog weathers. Protect eyes from feeling tired with long lightening up. Not as bright as the white color, the white light is recommended for customers who prefers it to be bright.SST40 LED only have Cool white light color now
Looks like the Philips Luxeon has similar stated lumens as the SST40 of 2200 lumens.
*“pure purple base plate” = I think it’s from Chinese-to-English translation inaccuracy and probabably means “pure copper base plate”
freeme:There are total of 4 emitter options to choose from.
Luminus SST40 CW
Philips Luxeon NW
XP-L HI CW
XP-L HI NW
Interested, can you give a description of how is the lumens and throw for each LED type?
I know XPL-Hi is throwy, and should be something like 1000-1300 lumens (basing from other flashlights using XPL-Hi)
Luminus SST40 is a mixed flood/throw LED (probably similar to XHP50.2), with around 2000-2200 lumens (basing from other flashlights with this LED).I’m not familiar with the Philips Luxeon LED — how is the lumens and the throw compared to the XPL-Hi and SST40?
Not really. As already stated, SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2,
Luxeon V is floodier.
I am in
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SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2,
Luxeon V is floodier.
Are you sure the Luxeon V is floodier than the SST-40?
The Luxeon V has a smaller footprint (4040) .
Agro:SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2,
Luxeon V is floodier.Are you sure the Luxeon V is floodier than the SST-40?
The Luxeon V has a smaller footprint (4040) .
The Luxeon V is similar to an XP-L HD. The die size and the dome are more important in determining flood/throw than the ‘footprint’ or package size (3535, 4040, 5050)
Agro:SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2,
Luxeon V is floodier.Are you sure the Luxeon V is floodier than the SST-40?
The Luxeon V has a smaller footprint (4040) .
Luxeon is flip chip and flip chips are flooders usually.
But this time that’s not the case, I was wrong and stock they offer practically the same cd/lm.
Note that SST-40 can be dedomed with great throw improvements. With Luxeon V the improvements are marginal.
Source:
LED test / review EN Lumileds Luxeon V (CSP, 2017) L1V1-407003V500000 UPDATE --- 06/23/18 --- raw data added! (link) [image] In the first days of LED technology, 2003, Lumileds released the Luxeon V LED. For it’s release it was one of the brightest emitter in the world and offered many manufacturers of lighting systems new possibilites in design and luminous power. Fourteen years later, a new Luxeon V was presented to the public, available in 70 CRI option only…
LED-Test EN Luminus SST-40-W Specialty White LED SST-40-CW-A120 UPDATE --- 06/23/18 --- raw data added! (link) This is the english version of my first test (August 2017). Because of more accurate results and some minor changes in the text the german version is no longer valid anymore! I bought this emitter at Kaidomain several months ago. Technical data Tj 85 °C, If 700 mA Order code: SST-40-CW-A120 (unless otherwise specified) Type: single…
stock they offer practically the same cd/lm.
Note that SST-40 can be dedomed with great throw improvements. With Luxeon V the improvements are marginal.
Source:
LED test / review – Lumileds Luxeon V (CSP) 4000 K 70 CRI – High flux and nice beam pattern, but differences in Vf
LED test / review – Luminus SST-40-W Specialty White N4 BA (+ dedomed) – Here it is, the next gen XM-L2!
Thanks Agro for looking into it.
So, we should expect similar basic characteristics with the sst-40 and luxeon V. (Lummens and throw)
And both leds are ‘rumored’ to have minimal tint shift.
So I’m guessing the biggest difference (apart of-course from the tint) will be Amperage draw in direct drive.
Do you know which led has a smaller Internal Resistance?
Hard to tell. You may see in the Luxeon V thread that I linked to that 2 samples from different sources that Koef3 checked had very different Vf.
Is there a code for the pre-order already? Interested to try the Philips Luxeon V model…
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