Gocomma assisted & manual flipper knives

[Lightbringer]

@Blackbeard

Thanks for the testing teacher, I still havent got one yet, trying to figure out this dumb new paypal policy, not letting me pay with my balance without some new sign up thing leaving me annoyed, so maybe get one after I figure it out, but too lazy, not sure what shenanigans they are up to.

Happened to me, too. Demanded personal info I really didn’t want to give.

Solution: get the debit card. Give the address to be where you work, mum’s house, whatever, where they’ll mail it. Give a bogus SIN (asked only last 4 digits?, forgot). You’ll still get it.

Then you’ll have, say, 35bux on the card when they mail it to you. Use it wherever as a regular CC (up to the balance), or just do a buy from FT, GB, whatever.

If you “pay by debit card” you’ll only be able to spend up to that balance but not a penny more. I had to “top off” one time (was on AX, no PP option, just CC/DC), and they do that in 10buk increments, which I didn’t like (only needed like 1buk to make the buy).

But if you buy from GB/FT and “pay by paypal”, you’ll have the option to “use balance?” and it’ll burn through that first, and then charge only the “excess” to your linked card. New balance on the card will be 0.00 once used up.

At that point, you can use the DC or not as you see fit. Toss a few bux on it to pay for lunch, etc., vs using a CC/DC of your own. This way, you’ll know how much you’ll have available on it as a maximum, and even if lost, no one’ll be able to keep soaking your linked card as long as you have that option turned off.

Ain’t too bad. All that bogus info on that DC, and no one “caught” me yet. :laughing:

[Muto]

Teacher and all,
Here are the pics , after the pic of the knife closed the next ones are knife #2.
Please understand I am not a knife guy per se, Have maybe 15 but really like this knife and don’t want to give wrong impression that is not a wonderful knife because I believe it to be.
I got clamped by lock failure when I was like 13 by trying to carve name in a tree and was pushing hard trying to dot an “I” and it closed on my fingers, was lucky did not sever ligaments so that is why I am paranoid of good locking mechanisms.

Thanks!
Keith

[Lightbringer]

Now you know why I never ever ever push/pull/crank/twist/anything on a folder. Just got a coupla more cheep fixed-blade knives for s&g, and for when I might have to do something like that.

I never had a folder unexpectedly close on me, but my old Buck(ish) lockback had a sort of hair-trigger. One wrong “lean” trying to push “backwards” (ie, not into the cutting-edge but against the spine) and yeah, it could’ve easily collapsed shut and tried taking off a coupla fingers in the process. Noooooo thanks.

[Blackbeard]

That lockup doesn’t look ideal, I have a Kershaw Leek that’s similar, but it’s a frame lock and probably sturdier, and you do put pressure on it since it’s on the outside when you grip….that one does look a bit iffy tho…maybe try those spine whacks tests with some thick work gloves on, or keep it for light duty stuff like mail and package opening if you feel it may fail, the width of the lockbar that engages the tang is quite wide for a liner lock, kinda weird, looks more like a frame lock.

[Blackbeard]

Thanks for the info lightbringer, right now I’ll just be withdrawing my balance and if I use paypal it will just go through the bank. I’m guessing they weren’t making enough money the old way(seriously?) so they scrapped it

[teacher]

@Muto

Teacher and all,
Here are the pics , after the pic of the knife closed the next ones are knife #2.
Please understand I am not a knife guy per se, Have maybe 15 but really like this knife and don’t want to give wrong impression that is not a wonderful knife because I believe it to be.
I got clamped by lock failure when I was like 13 by trying to carve name in a tree and was pushing hard trying to dot an “I” and it closed on my fingers, was lucky did not sever ligaments so that is why I am paranoid of good locking mechanisms.

Thanks!
Keith

@ Muto & others

Those are great pics my friend.

Those two do lockup a bit ’earlier’ than mine.

There is something else that looks slightly different to… but I can’t put my finger on what it is. :person_facepalming:

I've loaned my camera to a buddy but I am gonna get it back & take some closeups that match yours & see if I can tell if their is a slight difference or I'm crazy. … The safe bet is on crazy.

Personally, I would have no concern over using either of those.
’But’…. that being said, I only cut with my knives. I do not use them as a pry bar, screwdriver, hammer, or chisel…… I cut with them.

I might take a bit more liberty with a fixed blade if need be…. but not much. Unless it is an ESEE 5 or 6 of course……

I think with a bit of opening & closing your two will wear in & be just right.

However…. If you want to be rid of them I will be glad to buy them.

I can understand your pause after reading your story about “dotting the i ”… . :person_facepalming:

Glad that was not worse than it was…

[Blackbeard]

I only found 2 knives in my stash that have a similar interior liner lock that looks like a frame lock(I’m referencing the 3rd pic on page one of this thread, and the cutout in the liner lock that is opposite the middle scale screw), a Gerber and a Kershaw Link, but all the liner locks are much thinner, this Gocomma is the thickest interior liner lock, is it a heavy knife?

Just mentioning this for Muto, looks like it would be hard to make that lock fail with that thick gauge.

[teacher]

@Blackbeard

I only found 2 knives in my stash that have a similar interior liner lock that looks like a frame lock(I’m referencing the 3rd pic on page one of this thread, and the cutout in the liner lock that is opposite the middle scale screw), a Gerber and a Kershaw Link, but all the liner locks are much thinner, this Gocomma is the thickest interior liner lock, is it a heavy knife?

Just mentioning this for Muto, looks like it would be hard to make that lock fail with that thick gauge.

Your talking about this one Blackbeard??

There’s this one with a 7.7cm D2 blade and a G10 handle:

https://www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-folding-knives/pp_009152095568.html

Your right… the lockbar is very thick & robust, just as you describe. :+1:

The knife below is the same way… robust lockbar.

Infact, upon comparing; the lock bar on both of these is much more heavy duty than the Ganzo FH-11 I have

And finally this one with a 8.9cm D2 blade and a G10 handle:

https://www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-folding-knives/pp_009780560071.html

FI…. the above knife is a great one too. . :+1:

Edit… I forgot to answer your question about “heavy” Blackbeard. I don’t consider either one overly heavy. They just have a good solid feel, if that makes any sense to you.

The one pictured above has a more solid feel to me than the FH-11. And… “it will cut” … as well as hold an edge.

[Pete7874]

Speaking of locking mechanisms, here is a pic of the lock on my FH21. Being new to folding knives and this being my first one, I don’t really know if it’s good or not, but there seems to be a good amount of overlap.

[Omega_17]

The only way to feel the quality is by fidgeting with it, not by looking at pictures of the position of the locking liner.
But on the pictures you can see that most knifes don’t have a symmetric grounding and this is far more important for a knife. Almost every reviewer don’t even look at this…

[Lightbringer]

@Blackbeard

Thanks for the info lightbringer, right now I’ll just be withdrawing my balance and if I use paypal it will just go through the bank. I’m guessing they weren’t making enough money the old way(seriously?) so they scrapped it

Thing is, any more “refunds” and the like, and that goes into the card, so don’t toss it.

[teacher]

@Pete7874

Speaking of locking mechanisms, here is a pic of the lock on my FH21. Being new to folding knives and this being my first one, I don’t really know if it’s good or not, but there seems to be a good amount of overlap.

Looks fine Pete. :+1: . And like Omega_17 kinda said…. it’s all really about the geometry of how the lockbar meets the angled part of the blade heel. If the geometry is right, the lockup will be right.
And your pic looks great to me.

[Pete7874]

Thanks, teacher.

[teacher]

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[Boaz]

@Muto

Teacher and all, Here are the pics , after the pic of the knife closed the next ones are knife #2. Please understand I am not a knife guy per se, Have maybe 15 but really like this knife and don’t want to give wrong impression that is not a wonderful knife because I believe it to be. I got clamped by lock failure when I was like 13 by trying to carve name in a tree and was pushing hard trying to dot an “I” and it closed on my fingers, was lucky did not sever ligaments so that is why I am paranoid of good locking mechanisms. Thanks! Keith

If Muto feels like his lock up is questionable then he ought to be saying so . I feel like mine is questionable too and am happy someone mentioned it .

thanks for posting pics

[teacher]

If anyone (in the USA) wants to be rid of what they consider a “borderline dangerous or crappy lockup” GoComma, please PM me. I will be more than happy to purchase it/them from you. As long as you have not attempted to sharpen it/them.

[Boaz]

Sorry Teacher but you saying that you're willing to buy them may sound impressive but has no bearing on whether these knives are any good or not .that's just a fallacious argument .

Someone may say an atomic beam is a great flashlight and then offer to buy them from anyone who doesn't like it ...doesn't mean a thing .

[Lightbringer]

If disassembled, can’t that piece be gently bent a little more to provide more coverage?

[Adahn]

@Boaz What exactly on those pictures tells you that it’s not safe?

Do a spinewhack test and see if it’s closing on you, easy to do.
Tells nothing about real life but it holds then it will hold normal use, too.

Don’t just say, boo-hoo, this knife is soo dangerous, come up with some facts and show some knowledge on the topic.
Just go back a page and read this Gocomma assisted & manual flipper knives - #197 by teacher

When the whole locking liner has contact with the lockface on the blade and the blade won’t close with a spinewhack then it’s safe.
Try to understand how a liner lock is working, tell why you feel yours is so unsafe.

Otherwise it’s wiser to stay silent.

[Omega_17]

A folding knife is by definition a broken knife. But they can be safe if you are not a idiot. A locking mechanism is a very recent feature, for example the liner lock was only invented in the 80s.