Banggood has some on sale, Iāll bet M4dM4x has a coupon somewhere
I like it. It looks like Christmas Star decorations I have. They are bigger of course
PSā¦ Just noticed you had a bent feeling.
Rememberā¦ I have a couple of spares if you need one.
I think Iāll wait for the bogof coupon
bogof = buy one get one free.
I like it. It looks like Christmas Star decorations I have. They are bigger of course
PSā¦ Just noticed you had a bent feeling.
Rememberā¦ I have a couple of spares if you need one.
Thanks mate but Iām ok , I just straightened it out , I used a big hammer.
I hope this one is good to stay
This 6 branches suriken covered with blood seems a bit offensive/deadly but definitely looks cool.
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Thanks mate but Iām ok , I just straightened it out , I used a big hammer.
Your welcomeā¦. I understand. It is always best to recycle those feelings if yaā can.
If it is really bent badā¦. use some heat from an acetyl torch as you hammer.
Itāll straighten right out.
I try not to say too much in these threads, lest it could be construed as escalating, but I agree with very much of what has been said above.
I will add, however, I find the people who canāt just let things go, and always have to have the last word, sometimes even well after the subject has been dropped or changed, far more annoying than the so-called ātrollsā.
I will add, however, I find the people who canāt just let things go, and always have to have the last word, sometimes even well after the subject has been dropped or changed, far more annoying than the so-called ātrollsā.
Yes, exactly. Thatās why the ādrop the subjectā rule is so incredibly important.
:+1: ā¦ā¦ A kind word in private or possibly in public possibly would have achieved a better outcomeā¦. weāll never know.
Please be assured that is precisely what I do almost on a daily basis. But thereās a huge difference between somebody who is having a bad day or genuinely doesnāt understand the rules, and a malicious troublemaker. I will only continue to gently remind or reprimand users until their real character and intentions become apparent.
Others will love it & others will hate itā¦. that is their opinion.
Who cares either wayā¦
I care. BLF is not meant to be a place for people to pile on others or flaunt their most offensive traits. There are plenty of forums and social platforms where such toxic behavior is tolerated or even encouraged. Here, itās prohibited. No ifs or buts about it. If such behavior has cropped up here at any given point in a certain thread, itās either because I was unaware of the situation or else I was in the process of evaluating/moderating the situation as I described above.
thereās a huge difference between somebody who is having a bad day or genuinely doesnāt understand the rules, and a malicious troublemaker. I will only continue to gently remind or reprimand users until their real character and intentions become apparent.
Exactly. For a long time, I was happy to accept anyone and everyone. But over time, and after a lot of drama, I ended up with two simple rules or requirements for the people Iām willing to associate with:
- Good intentions. Must not do harmful things on purpose.
- Runs out of pencil before running out of eraser. People arenāt perfect, so they fail sometimes. Thatās fine, but if they fail a lot and they fail at me or in ways which hurt people I care about, then I generally try to cut ties.
I care. BLF is not meant to be a place for people to pile on others or flaunt their most offensive traits. There are plenty of forums and social platforms where such toxic behavior is tolerated or even encouraged. Here, itās prohibited. No ifs or buts about it.
Yeahā¦ itās not about intolerance or snowflakes or free speech. If the strongest justification one can make for saying something is that itās not literally illegal to say out loud, thatās a pretty weak argument.
The question we should be discussing isā¦ What kind of forum do we want to be? Who gets to feel welcome or unwelcome? Should we allow posts which pick fights? And when it happens, should we allow posts calling out the bad behavior? Does hosting the words of troublemakers (or to a lesser extent, troubleshooters) foster or detract from the kind of environment we want to create? These are the type of questions we should be discussing instead of the irrelevant question āIs user123 a troll?ā or āDoes the forum allow free speech?ā Because whatās up for discussion are not Constitutional rightsā¦ but the norms of conduct for a particular forum. No one who understands the workings of a community would say that there should be no rules. That is the position of a badly-behaved person who is angry that he canāt say rude things without meeting resistance.
In general itās pretty clear what the policy should be for troublemakers ā basically a big āNOPEā. The more complicated part is the policy for troubleshooters. Because attempting to deal with troublemakers is ā¦ difficult. Attempts can make the situation better, but can also make it worse. And people arenāt usually great judges of which way thatās going to go. It ends up as a battle of wits, but itās not a fair fight. The person causing trouble has a pretty big advantage, since itās a lot easier to break things than to fix things.
So ā¦ itās complicated. Good solutions take a while to figure out.
sb has it sussed
In general itās pretty clear what the policy should be for troublemakers ā basically a big āNOPEā. The more complicated part is the policy for troubleshooters. Because attempting to deal with troublemakers is ā¦ difficult. Attempts can make the situation better, but can also make it worse. And people arenāt usually great judges of which way thatās going to go. It ends up as a battle of wits, but itās not a fair fight. The person causing trouble has a pretty big advantage, since itās a lot easier to break things than to fix things.
So ā¦ itās complicated. Good solutions take a while to figure out.
Yep, ^ this. Well stated. Thus far, the official policy has been ādonāt intervene or respond in any way, hit the Report button, and/or PM me.ā Iām not saying that Iām opposed to revising that policy, but the drama in the recent days happened despite the well-intentioned ātroubleshootersā as TK puts it, and it very possibly would have been avoided or been less explosive without the intervention from other users.
Sorry about intervening.
I will try to learn from my mistakes, including this one.
Sorry about intervening.
I will try to learn from my mistakes, including this one.
The real problem is with the trolls, not well-intentioned users. So thanks at any rate for your good intentions.
We have had trolls before but the last day was more like a high school bully.
We have had trolls before but the last day was more like a high school bully.
True that.
At any rate, please be assured that I take these problems very seriously, and I regularly ban accounts behind the scenes. I just donāt usually make public banning announcements so as to avoid turning BLF into a public execution ground. I also donāt want to give the troll(s) any more recognition than they already got, and I donāt want other users to take sides.
Teacher get banned?
I just donāt usually make public banning announcements so as to avoid turning BLF into a public execution ground.
Private executions only, got it
I understand not announcing such things but with a member like Teacher having such a high post count and apparently quite popular too, members want to know.
Itās obvious heās gone so a simple yes or he decided it best to leave would have been an answer.
Guys, if Iām not here tomorrow, you know what happenedā¦
I understand not announcing such things but with a member like Teacher having such a high post count and apparently quite popular too, members want to know.
Itās obvious heās gone so a simple yes
Well, since the subject came up, that would be a āyesā. It was a long and complicated decision with multiple warnings and previously a temporary ban, but thatās where itās at now.
Please do not discuss this decision here or anywhere else on BLF. Such comments would be considered as controversial and will be removed. I donāt mean to be overly strict about this, but 9 years of experience lets me predict with absolute 100% certainty that discussing the question of banned members will only create a mess. Thanks in advance!