I was going to remove the 219c anyway
I have plans to install a 219b
I got the same led mix up email. That’s exactly what I thought if I dont get the Nichia, I’ll just put one in it and do the low resistor mod while I’m there.
.
I tried going with a 3k resistor for low a few days ago and its to low. Lumen tube with Extech LT45 reported about .15 lumens. 1k was reporting around .5 lumen.
I’m thinking around 1.5k resistor would be about right for moonlight for me.
I’m somewhat tempted to purchase the aluminum one with a Nichia, and swap the innards of the head with the copper one. Then probably gift the aluminum one to someone…
…But then I feel like I’d be just burning a lot more money than I originally set out to spend.
That’s a really bad move from them. They should send us the right flashlight and let us keep the wrong one (as the $10 coupon is useless). Also, the refund doesn’t include shipping and will ruin my $20 new user coupon (under their TOS, it’s unauthorized to create a new account to get it once more). I also paid more to pay for the USD currency conversion which isn’t going to be compensated…
I guess I’ll dispute it on Paypal because I want a full refund shipping included and never have to use their website ever again (especially since it’s out of stock) :/
If there was a way to resend it and get the right one I wouldn’t even complain, mistakes do happen. But here, they are deliberately screwing us with all their coupon and forcing us to buy more stuff on their website without even given us back the discount we originally had
Me thinks they pulled them for sale to allow time to inspect and re label the inventory, then they will return for sale after which time the original victims (customers) have been flushed out of the pipeline.
No way they sold out of both versions at the same time.
However it should be noted, Drop.com is not the maker of these lights, it is Lumintop who has screwed this up the same way about 2 years ago with the Titanium Tool.
Have one and it sits where it belongs, in the box.
They just put the wrong SKU label on the package, box clearly says Cree.
Think it was sold through BangGood but could be wrong, regardless the seller took sheet for it and they were not at fault.
If the maker would just have a low power UV light that the flashlight has to pass under before at time of labeling it would be very easy for workers to realize which is which.
But that makes too much sense.
I’ll reflow something into mine after it shows up, it’s close to being here, but now I could give a rats azz when it comes. Not like it’s the only copper nichia tool in the house so no big loss really.
Later,
Keith
—
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
OK, I had an email back from CS this morning – looks like we will be keeping the $20 sign up voucher too, so $30 credit IF you return it, at their cost, or keep it and have $10.
‘This is Brett with Drop Community Support. I will be assisting you with this issue today.
Upon checking our warehouse, we found that we do not have any inventory to dispatch a replacement, which is why this was not offered as a solution. Our business model is based on group purchases, so we do not have the ability to procure individual replacements from the vendor at this time.
You would be able to receive your $20 credit back as well as the full refund if you decided to return the flashlight. It does indeed look like your flashlight is still in transit. This update email was sent to everyone who had ordered the flashlight regardless of if they have been delivered yet or not. As mentioned in the email, if you receive the incorrect flashlight and decide you would like to return it for a refund please do reach back out at that time.’
Open it and see what’s inside.
I still hope that mine is not mistakenly marked (I ordered the Cree version). The tracking number is not functioning.
When did you ordered yours?
I ordered the Nichia. Package just arrived. There are no marks on the anti-static vacuum bag that contains the light, but the plastic “case” has paperwork with “Cree XP-G3 LED” checked.
I loaded an Eneloop pro and initially thought the switch was DOA. I jumpered the tail and confirmed the LED was cool white (with a larger yellow halo around the hotspot than normal, which I don’t particularly like). I’ve since read that a capacitor in the electronic switch needs to charge for a few minutes, and it’s working now. The literature says Click to turn On/Off; “Press” to select L-M-H. But I need to double-click while On to change modes. UI has no memory, it starts back on Low after about 2 sec off.
I ordered the Nichia. Package just arrived. There are no marks on the anti-static vacuum bag that contains the light, but the plastic “case” has paperwork with “Cree XP-G3 LED” checked.
I loaded an Eneloop pro and initially thought the switch was DOA.
My cooper light is still in transit. I got the $10 off email and just used that to buy a aluminum version since the discount is email specific and can’t use the $20 off on a single aluminum version if I created another account. Came out to $15 with free shipping. That completes the tool AAA collection for me. I had the brass and natural titanium version already. Now if someone could just find a good deal on some eneloop’s, I’d be set.
Yes, but rough like I said. Ceiling bounce with an uncalibrated smart phone app; lux not lumens. Stock probes on my cheap multimeter.
The light is growing on me, perhaps as it’s getting darker. I wonder if my other Crees don’t show as much of a yellow halo because they lack the AR glass that this one has…
Is it possible to put a forward clicky in this while keeping the titanium button?
I wonder if my other Crees don’t show as much of a yellow halo
…
Is it possible to put a forward clicky in this while keeping the titanium button?
The yellow halo is from the XP-G3, because it has a LOT of tint shift across the beam. An XP-G2, 219b or 219c wont have that.
No, eSwitches dont have half presses, so no forward clicky option. The mechanical switches on the Lumintop Tool have half presses, but they are reverse clickies. With the eSwitch we just have to use multi clicks to advance modes.
If anybody wants to trade me an ordered Nichia Cu for a Cree ordered I will include a captive clip thy type from the eBay seller SS not TI. I want the Nichia not the Cree each pay shipping.I already have a Cree! This is messed up! I have to say Drop stepped up and is exchanging it for me Cool!
Chris
—
Chris
richbuff said “Sometimes, I feel depressed about my spirit having been cast down to the hostile surface of this one-star planet, without my asking God first, and without God asking me first. I have found that a brief burst of maximum light from what is currently the smallest size flashlight per power makes it all ok/fine for a while, until the next time I feel the need to repeat.”
OK, I had an email back from CS this morning – looks like we will be keeping the $20 sign up voucher too, so $30 credit IF you return it, at their cost, or keep it and have $10.
‘This is Brett with Drop Community Support. I will be assisting you with this issue today.
Upon checking our warehouse, we found that we do not have any inventory to dispatch a replacement, which is why this was not offered as a solution. Our business model is based on group purchases, so we do not have the ability to procure individual replacements from the vendor at this time.
You would be able to receive your $20 credit back as well as the full refund if you decided to return the flashlight. It does indeed look like your flashlight is still in transit. This update email was sent to everyone who had ordered the flashlight regardless of if they have been delivered yet or not. As mentioned in the email, if you receive the incorrect flashlight and decide you would like to return it for a refund please do reach back out at that time.’
they definitely don’t have the same support. Here’s what I got :
“Unfortunately, we are not able to reapply this credit as it is only able to be applied to new accounts with a first order. That said, please just keep the flashlight you did receive as an apology from us. I have issued a full refund to your original payment method. You should see this reflected on your statement within 2 to 5 business days, depending on your financial institution.”
I remove everything I’ve said bad about drop, but if I had the same response as some other (return to get refund, get only $10 and loose your $20 from first order ) I would be pissed.
This is such a beautiful light, I opened the package today. Glad I did, the cree tint is not too bad.
What’s the best way to get uniform artificial patina? I remember reading somewhere, but don’t recall.
Depends on what colour of patina you want. There’s some good vid on youtube
- this one (starts odd) but is good link
I want mine green, like it’s been rescued from a ship wreck….when it arrives!
I ordered the nichia. At this point, I really don’t care what I receive. If it’s xpg, it’ll be brighter… It’s my first copper.
So, I’ll keep whatever I get and take the$10 credit if it happens.
Trouble is, you can’t use that credit plus referrer code… So might as well use referrer code so you get $10 off and so does someone else.
There’s something about a nice warm emitter paired with copper. I’m not going to be happy if this is XPG. Too blue. The real pisser here is that you can’t return it and get the proper one, right? You get a credit and have to start over. And of course, now you’re done with the new account deal.
My copper tool aaa came today it is cool white. If someone has a Nichia they didnt expect I will trade and include a preon ss clip to sweeten the deal. I am talking to someone at the moment however if that falls through... Thanks Chris Drop took care of me.
—
Chris
richbuff said “Sometimes, I feel depressed about my spirit having been cast down to the hostile surface of this one-star planet, without my asking God first, and without God asking me first. I have found that a brief burst of maximum light from what is currently the smallest size flashlight per power makes it all ok/fine for a while, until the next time I feel the need to repeat.”
Got my Drop Copper Tool today as well and it is clearly marked Cree XP-G3 LED, so it is not a case of Lumintop screwing the pooch this time with labeling.
Here is new and very plausible theory;
Drop ordered a 50/50 mix of Nichia’s and Cree’s into inventory.
Members ordered Nichia’s 4 to 1 against the Cree’s.
Now they do $20 off promo to get more members and run out of stock of all Nichia’s and have all these Cree’s left over. They say Eff it! ship the Cree’s and we’ll deal with the backlash.
So, Has anyone here ordered a Cree and had the Nichia show up??
I’m keeping the thing but it still pizzes me off, only reason I gave that site a chance to earn my business and here we are.
They have some other products that interest me so will probably get something in the future but will still have a bad taste in my mouth from this ordeal.
Don’t want a $10 credit, want what I ordered and paid for.
End of Rant
—
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
I ordered the Cree version, no update since 28th. I’ll post here when it arrives the following is what I get when tracked.
November 28, 2019, 12:00 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONALBRIDGE
Your item arrived at a shipping partner facility at 12:00 am on November 28, 2019. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
I ordered Nichia, dont know what I will receive yet.
tracking is rather confused, the tracking spent several updates at International Bridge
then it appeared in Illinois
then it went back to International Bridge..
hmmmm
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Tracking History
December 2, 2019, 3:47 pm
Departed Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONALBRIDGE
Your item departed a shipping partner facility at 3:47 pm on December 2, 2019. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
November 26, 2019, 11:47 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item WOODDALE, IL 60191
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONALBRIDGE
November 24, 2019, 12:00 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONALBRIDGE
I ordered Nichia, dont know what I will receive yet.
tracking is rather confused, the tracking spent several updates at International Bridge
then it appeared in Illinois
then it went back to International Bridge..
hmmmm
My tracking was weird. As I understand it, the package was supposed to be transferred to USPS for local delivery. It landed at the huge USPS hub just a town over from me. But instead of going to my town, it went to another USPS hub further away. Then went back again to the other hub. Then to “DHL”… but then back to USPS and the DHL entry was ERASED. I kid you not. Anyway, was supposed to get mine today, but got “attempted delivery but location blocked,” which was a total lie. We had some snow here, but barely 2” accumulation. Nothing was blocked. Sidewalk was cleared. Some delivery person got behind, probably due to weather, and used a false excuse. I’d rather they just admit something like “Delivery delayed due to weather.”
I ordered the Cree version, no update since 28th. I’ll post here when it arrives the following is what I get when tracked.
November 28, 2019, 12:00 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONALBRIDGE
Your item arrived at a shipping partner facility at 12:00 am on November 28, 2019. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
I also got the email. May try an emitter swap or be up for a trade if I get the cool white.
you just cost me 10 bucks.. lol
thanks a lot
Now Im stuck with a brass tool I need to mod
first world problems
I dont even want brass.. and surely dont want cool white
anybody who wants to trade for copper.. any LED, lmk
sheesh
slippery slope
I need to step away from the buy it now button.. lol
I got the same led mix up email. That’s exactly what I thought if I dont get the Nichia, I’ll just put one in it and do the low resistor mod while I’m there.
.
I tried going with a 3k resistor for low a few days ago and its to low. Lumen tube with Extech LT45 reported about .15 lumens. 1k was reporting around .5 lumen.
I’m thinking around 1.5k resistor would be about right for moonlight for me.
V11R and V10R Current Mod
I’m somewhat tempted to purchase the aluminum one with a Nichia, and swap the innards of the head with the copper one. Then probably gift the aluminum one to someone…
…But then I feel like I’d be just burning a lot more money than I originally set out to spend.
That’s a really bad move from them. They should send us the right flashlight and let us keep the wrong one (as the $10 coupon is useless). Also, the refund doesn’t include shipping and will ruin my $20 new user coupon (under their TOS, it’s unauthorized to create a new account to get it once more). I also paid more to pay for the USD currency conversion which isn’t going to be compensated…
I guess I’ll dispute it on Paypal because I want a full refund shipping included and never have to use their website ever again (especially since it’s out of stock) :/
If there was a way to resend it and get the right one I wouldn’t even complain, mistakes do happen. But here, they are deliberately screwing us with all their coupon and forcing us to buy more stuff on their website without even given us back the discount we originally had
Me thinks they pulled them for sale to allow time to inspect and re label the inventory, then they will return for sale after which time the original victims (customers) have been flushed out of the pipeline.
No way they sold out of both versions at the same time.
However it should be noted, Drop.com is not the maker of these lights, it is Lumintop who has screwed this up the same way about 2 years ago with the Titanium Tool.
Have one and it sits where it belongs, in the box.
They just put the wrong SKU label on the package, box clearly says Cree.
Think it was sold through BangGood but could be wrong, regardless the seller took sheet for it and they were not at fault.
If the maker would just have a low power UV light that the flashlight has to pass under before at time of labeling it would be very easy for workers to realize which is which.
But that makes too much sense.
I’ll reflow something into mine after it shows up, it’s close to being here, but now I could give a rats azz when it comes. Not like it’s the only copper nichia tool in the house so no big loss really.
Later,
Keith
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
Hope the LED board can be removed. Have some SST20 boards left from C01S’. Not as nice as the Nichia, but better than this Cree.
Smile, you cannot kill them all.
OK, I had an email back from CS this morning – looks like we will be keeping the $20 sign up voucher too, so $30 credit IF you return it, at their cost, or keep it and have $10.
‘This is Brett with Drop Community Support. I will be assisting you with this issue today.
Upon checking our warehouse, we found that we do not have any inventory to dispatch a replacement, which is why this was not offered as a solution. Our business model is based on group purchases, so we do not have the ability to procure individual replacements from the vendor at this time.
You would be able to receive your $20 credit back as well as the full refund if you decided to return the flashlight. It does indeed look like your flashlight is still in transit. This update email was sent to everyone who had ordered the flashlight regardless of if they have been delivered yet or not. As mentioned in the email, if you receive the incorrect flashlight and decide you would like to return it for a refund please do reach back out at that time.’
The BLF Flashlight / Accessory / Battery / Spares Retailers Thread with Discount Codes
Mine is delivered today. The emitter is clearly marked, not sure what caused the mix-up. Thinking of I should open it or not. Happy Thanksgiving!
https://imgur.com/a/0idoLet
thank you,
my plan use cheaper clip from pen with diameter around 14-15mm
sorry poor english
poor english
Open it and see what’s inside.
I still hope that mine is not mistakenly marked (I ordered the Cree version). The tracking number is not functioning.
When did you ordered yours?
FIAT LUX!
I ordered the nichia. At this point, I really don’t care what I receive. If it’s xpg, it’ll be brighter…
It’s my first copper.
So, I’ll keep whatever I get and take the$10 credit if it happens.
I ordered the Nichia. Package just arrived. There are no marks on the anti-static vacuum bag that contains the light, but the plastic “case” has paperwork with “Cree XP-G3 LED” checked.
I loaded an Eneloop pro and initially thought the switch was DOA. I jumpered the tail and confirmed the LED was cool white (with a larger yellow halo around the hotspot than normal, which I don’t particularly like). I’ve since read that a capacitor in the electronic switch needs to charge for a few minutes, and it’s working now. The literature says Click to turn On/Off; “Press” to select L-M-H. But I need to double-click while On to change modes. UI has no memory, it starts back on Low after about 2 sec off.
Rough measurements:
Low: 26 lux (0.02 A), Med: 82 lux (0.19 A), High: 440 (1.52 A)
If I keep this, I’ll definitely need to decrease the brightness for Low.
These measurements are with a AAA Eneloop pro?
V11R and V10R Current Mod
My cooper light is still in transit. I got the $10 off email and just used that to buy a aluminum version since the discount is email specific and can’t use the $20 off on a single aluminum version if I created another account. Came out to $15 with free shipping. That completes the tool AAA collection for me. I had the brass and natural titanium version already. Now if someone could just find a good deal on some eneloop’s, I’d be set.
V11R and V10R Current Mod
Yes, but rough like I said. Ceiling bounce with an uncalibrated smart phone app; lux not lumens. Stock probes on my cheap multimeter.
The light is growing on me, perhaps as it’s getting darker. I wonder if my other Crees don’t show as much of a yellow halo because they lack the AR glass that this one has…
Is it possible to put a forward clicky in this while keeping the titanium button?
The yellow halo is from the XP-G3, because it has a LOT of tint shift across the beam. An XP-G2, 219b or 219c wont have that.
No, eSwitches dont have half presses, so no forward clicky option. The mechanical switches on the Lumintop Tool have half presses, but they are reverse clickies. With the eSwitch we just have to use multi clicks to advance modes.
I missed that important detail the first time. Now it makes more sense
V11R and V10R Current Mod
If anybody wants to trade me an ordered Nichia Cu for a Cree ordered I will include a captive clip thy type from the eBay seller SS not TI. I want the Nichia not the Cree each pay shipping.I already have a Cree! This is messed up! I have to say Drop stepped up and is exchanging it for me Cool!
Chris
Chris
richbuff said “Sometimes, I feel depressed about my spirit having been cast down to the hostile surface of this one-star planet, without my asking God first, and without God asking me first. I have found that a brief burst of maximum light from what is currently the smallest size flashlight per power makes it all ok/fine for a while, until the next time I feel the need to repeat.”
they definitely don’t have the same support. Here’s what I got :
“Unfortunately, we are not able to reapply this credit as it is only able to be applied to new accounts with a first order. That said, please just keep the flashlight you did receive as an apology from us. I have issued a full refund to your original payment method. You should see this reflected on your statement within 2 to 5 business days, depending on your financial institution.”
I remove everything I’ve said bad about drop, but if I had the same response as some other (return to get refund, get only $10 and loose your $20 from first order ) I would be pissed.
This is such a beautiful light, I opened the package today. Glad I did, the cree tint is not too bad.
What’s the best way to get uniform artificial patina? I remember reading somewhere, but don’t recall.
Depends on what colour of patina you want. There’s some good vid on youtube
- this one (starts odd) but is good link
I want mine green, like it’s been rescued from a ship wreck….when it arrives!
The BLF Flashlight / Accessory / Battery / Spares Retailers Thread with Discount Codes
There’s something about a nice warm emitter paired with copper. I’m not going to be happy if this is XPG. Too blue. The real pisser here is that you can’t return it and get the proper one, right? You get a credit and have to start over. And of course, now you’re done with the new account deal.
My copper tool aaa came today it is cool white. If someone has a Nichia they didnt expect I will trade and include a preon ss clip to sweeten the deal. I am talking to someone at the moment however if that falls through... Thanks Chris Drop took care of me.
Chris
richbuff said “Sometimes, I feel depressed about my spirit having been cast down to the hostile surface of this one-star planet, without my asking God first, and without God asking me first. I have found that a brief burst of maximum light from what is currently the smallest size flashlight per power makes it all ok/fine for a while, until the next time I feel the need to repeat.”
Yeah, only China can get away with avoiding VAT and customs…
Got my Drop Copper Tool today as well and it is clearly marked Cree XP-G3 LED, so it is not a case of Lumintop screwing the pooch this time with labeling.
Here is new and very plausible theory;
Drop ordered a 50/50 mix of Nichia’s and Cree’s into inventory.
Members ordered Nichia’s 4 to 1 against the Cree’s.
Now they do $20 off promo to get more members and run out of stock of all Nichia’s and have all these Cree’s left over. They say Eff it! ship the Cree’s and we’ll deal with the backlash.
So, Has anyone here ordered a Cree and had the Nichia show up??
I’m keeping the thing but it still pizzes me off, only reason I gave that site a chance to earn my business and here we are.
They have some other products that interest me so will probably get something in the future but will still have a bad taste in my mouth from this ordeal.
Don’t want a $10 credit, want what I ordered and paid for.
End of Rant
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
I ordered the Cree version, no update since 28th. I’ll post here when it arrives the following is what I get when tracked.
November 28, 2019, 12:00 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE
Your item arrived at a shipping partner facility at 12:00 am on November 28, 2019. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
I ordered Nichia, dont know what I will receive yet.
tracking is rather confused, the tracking spent several updates at International Bridge
then it appeared in Illinois
then it went back to International Bridge..
hmmmm
—-
Tracking History
December 2, 2019, 3:47 pm
Departed Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE
Your item departed a shipping partner facility at 3:47 pm on December 2, 2019. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
November 26, 2019, 11:47 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
WOOD DALE, IL 60191
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE
November 24, 2019, 12:00 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE
November 21, 2019, 7:30 pm
Departed Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE
November 20, 2019, 9:26 pm
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
Shipping Partner: INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE
November 20, 2019, 9:51 am
Merchant Order Receipt Notification, USPS Awaiting Item
Same thing here:
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