E21A 2700K, 2000K back in stock.

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Hank Wang wrote:
KR1 was made complement the KR4, it is 18650.
Head diameter 35mm, length, 110mm.

Due to this year’s complicated situation this has been slowed down a lot.
!https://intl-outdoor.com/media/wysiwyg/KR1/IMG_3397_1100px.jpg!

Awesome! Thanks, Hank! Any timeframe on the Nichia E21A? And will a range of temps be offered for that emitter?

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Ace7 wrote:
Looks awesome, Hank!! Stoked for details.

Do you have a timeline for when the Nichia E21A will be available in the KR4?


The E21A LED should be available by June.

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That looks really great, Hank.

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18650? Facepalm

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SBT90.2 mule on KR1? Evil

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SBT90.2 mule on KR1? Evil

Yeah, 3*SBT90.2 Big Smile

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Now we need a K1 mini (D1s replacement).

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@Hank Wang

Title of your new light says QUAD.

NOCTIGON KR1 QUAD TAIL E-SWITCH 18650 POCKET THROWER

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The 18350 variant is very cute.

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Hikelite wrote:
gumjai wrote:
SBT90.2 mule on KR1? Evil

Yeah, 3*SBT90.2 Big Smile

Why do you want to use SBT90.2 as a mule? It’s amazing as a thrower but if you want a mule, rather it be the much cheaper and more efficient XHP50.2

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The KR1 is like a tailswitch D1, not D1S.

Put a boost driver and XHP35 HI in that and I’d be quite tempted.

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Arg now to decide between the W1 or W2 the specs difference isnt as big as with the K1….

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Souichirou wrote:
Arg now to decide between the W1 or W2 the specs difference isnt as big as with the K1….

Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think a 10% increase in cd from 100k to 110k would be that noticeable. Whereas an almost 50% increase in lumens from 900 to 1300 would be.
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TMaxxJJ wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think a 10% increase in cd from 100k to 110k would be that noticeable. Whereas an almost 50% increase in lumens from 900 to 1300 would be.

It is not noticeable that 10Kcd extra.
But hey people think F1WA is a thrower with 35Kcd.

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Hank any chance you will be able to source the W1.1 and W2.1. I think with the W2.1 in the KR1, it might even out throw the W1

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Hikelite wrote:
TMaxxJJ wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think a 10% increase in cd from 100k to 110k would be that noticeable. Whereas an almost 50% increase in lumens from 900 to 1300 would be.

It is not noticeable that 10Kcd extra.
But hey people think F1WA is a thrower with 35Kcd.

I think a 35Kcd light can definitely be a thrower if the beam profile is narrow and has minimal spill. Its all about ratios.
100Kcd to 110Kcd will be barely noticeable, but 10Kcd to 20Kcd will be noticeable.

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W2 sounds interesting, but I’ll wait for the first reviews with photos of the beam. Also there might be more LED choices then.

Does the KR1 use the FET for direct drive or is it limited to 5 A?

I think the price is a bit high as it has just one emitter and no aux LEDs. Not sure how much the reflector adds to the BOM, but just $5 difference to the KR4 feels a bit overpriced. Especially compared to the D1.

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SammysHP wrote:
W2 sounds interesting, but I’ll wait for the first reviews with photos of the beam. Also there might be more LED choices then.

Does the KR1 use the FET for direct drive or is it limited to 5 A?

I think the price is a bit high as it has just one emitter and no aux LEDs. Not sure how much the reflector adds to the BOM, but just $5 difference to the KR4 feels a bit overpriced. Especially compared to the D1.

Keep in mind some LED options for the quads add $10 or more to the price, even more for the 8x mule versions I believe.

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I believe Emisar/Noctigon sit firmly at the “premium” end of budget flashlights. Their build quality and fit and finish is superb. Their prices are fair, IMHO.

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Thank You Hank, this is the light I have been dreaming about for a long time! (and of course, my preorder is sent Smile )

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I may wait to order KR1 until E21A KR4 is also available.

Doesn’t the White2 come in 5000 or 5500k? I really do not prefer 6000k.

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TMaxxJJ wrote:
Souichirou wrote:
Arg now to decide between the W1 or W2 the specs difference isnt as big as with the K1….
Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think a 10% increase in cd from 100k to 110k would be that noticeable. Whereas an almost 50% increase in lumens from 900 to 1300 would be.

This was my exact thought process when I ordered my K1W2.

Sacrificing 15% throw for 50% more lumens seems like a good trade, especially when the range is still ridiculous.

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I don’t consider Emisar/Noctigon budget lights so much as enthusiast lights. Enthusiasts tend to be aware of what affects the production cost and therefore more sensitive to good and bad value than the average person, but also willing to pay when the value is there.

I think pricing for the KR1 is fair. It’s $5 more than the D1 was while being a more complicated design for the nested tubes, at a time when a pandemic has canceled most passenger flights and driven up shipping costs.

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Wasn’t the D1S $40 and usually on sale for $35?

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18650? Really?
Who needs another one 18650 now?

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mbp wrote:
I may wait to order KR1 until E21A KR4 is also available.

Doesn’t the White2 come in 5000 or 5500k? I really do not prefer 6000k.

AFAIK the WF2 is binned at around 5500-5700K since that’s all I’ve seen it offered in.

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Hank,

 

will there be an E21A Mule? Please say yes. Wink

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Caved ordered a W2, probably will order a W1 at somepoint as well….

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Does KR1 have AUX leds? Anywhere? Around emitter maybe?

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id30209 wrote:

Does KR1 have AUX leds? Anywhere? Around emitter maybe?

NO

Hank already posted the image HERE

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