Wow this looks awesome! 18350 thrower! Optic looks similar to the Acebeam E10, which has an excellent nearly spill-less optic. What is more amazing is that Manker finally fixed their UI! My only complaint is I would prefer the usb-c port on the host and not the battery. Also, I wish Manker would release a similar light for 14500 batteries. With the recent release of the ultra high current and capacity Vapcell H10 and Shockli 1000mah recently released, there isnāt any good 14500 light that can make use of their high performance.
Woww. Im loving the new Manker designs. They redesigned alot of their line up this year to more streamline and EDC friendly: E02 II, E14 III and now new MC13.
Hopefully their UI got redesigned for less sucks too
Be interesting to see how this light compares to the Acebeam E10 and the new Acebeam L17. All three use same emitter and TIR optic by the look of things.
Are these batteries even available somewhere? Shockli was supposed to have them at the end of June, but they are still gone. Vapcell has only low current cells available, or high current, low capacity cells.
How much of an increase in throw could one expect with the tir optic? Instead of a smooth reflector like in an archer m1 or c8+, with the same emitter.
Output measured at 2s with Texas Ace Lumen Tube calibrated with Maukka lights. Light parameters measured with Sekonic C-800-U
Manker E02II
Turbo
170 lumens
3963K
0.0008 DUV
96.6 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
90.3 R9
79.3 R12
93 Rf
101 Rg
Ladda 900
Manker E02II
High
81 lumens
3943K
0.0016 DUV
97.5 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 0.85
92.9 R9
77.7 R12
93 Rf
100 Rg
Ladda 900
Manker E02II
Low
29 lumens
3957K
0.0021 DUV
97.6 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 0.88
94.3 R9
76.0 R12
92 Rf
99 Rg
Ladda 900
Manker E02II
Moonlight
0 lumens
3974K
-0.0005 DUV
97.4 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 0.98
97.1 R9
75.8 R12
91 Rf
99 Rg
Ladda 900
Manker MC13
Low
70 lumens
6454K
0.0042 DUV
67.2 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
-36.1 R9
36.7 R12
63 Rf
95 Rg
included 18650 battery
Manker MC13
Mid
145 lumens
6974K
0.0004 DUV
67.5 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
-27.5 R9
38.6 R12
62 Rf
96 Rg
included 18650 battery
Manker MC13
High
292 lumens
7066K
-0.0006 DUV
67.1 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
-25.4 R9
39.7 R12
61 Rf
97 Rg
included 18650 battery
Manker MC13
Turbo
630 lumens
8686K
-0.0078 DUV
70.4 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
-1.0 R9
43.5 R12
62 Rf
98 Rg
included 18650 and 18350 battery
Manker E14 III
Low
144 lumens
4222K
0.0083 DUV
91.9 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
67.1 R9
68.4 R12
91 Rf
98 Rg
included 18350 battery
Manker E14 III
Mid
286 lumens
4234K
0.0079 DUV
91.8 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
66.6 R9
68.6 R12
91 Rf
98 Rg
included 18350 battery
Manker E14 III
High
627 lumens
4256K
0.0078 DUV
91.6 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
65.6 R9
69.0 R12
91 Rf
98 Rg
included 18350 battery
Manker E14 III
Turbo
2,069 lumens
4319K
0.0069 DUV
91.0 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
63.0 R9
70.1 R12
91 Rf
99 Rg
included 18350 battery
Manker E14 III
Turbo
2,328 lumens
4313K
0.0059 DUV
91.3 CRI
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00
63.9 R9
70.9 R12
91 Rf
99 Rg
included 18650 battery
I also have a MC13vn with W2.1 with boosted driver on order and will measure it once I receive it. The MC13 is actually a good bit larger than I thought as I was imagining something slightly bigger than a GT Mini. The optic appears identical to the one used in the Acebeam E10 and L17. Though for some reason the hotspot seems just a tiny bit smaller than in the E10 and hotspot is more uniform. Maybe its just the focus is a bit different between the two. The MC13 measures 630 lumens on turbo while E10 measures 562 lumens. I'm not sure how much of it is due to the MC13 using the CULNM1.tg vs E10 using CSLNM1.tg or whether it is just the driver pushing more output in the MC13. Build quality is very high on both the MC13 and E4 III.
With the E4III, the tint (positive DUV) is unfortunately too green for my taste, which is typical for all the LH351D 4000K 90CRI I've seen. I will see what I can do with some minus green filters and maybe swap in some UCL lens if I can find compatible diameter lens. Also I feel that with 18650, it should be able to output much higher but the potential is limited by high resistance due to springs barely pushing on the battery contacts. I guess it was designed to accommodate long cells with built-in USB-C charge.
The included Manker 18350 and 18650 cells measure 1,180mah and 3,063mah. The 1,180mah is higher than 7 out of 8 of the legendary Aspire 18350 and older batch of Vapcell 18350; both of which rewrapped the older, better batch of YDL cells. The YDL cells in the last two years went down hill a bit and measure under 1,100mah. Not sure if I won the cell lottery or if Manker got a really good or improved YDL cell. The 18650 is probably a Samsung 30Q.
After month and a half of waiting package has been delivered to my doors. Man, this baby is great, just what I was looking for. Pencil pointer with sublte spill. Some people say this flashlight is bad for EDC but for me is more than sufficient
I just read in some youtube comments that Manker plans on releasing an MC13 version with W2.2 (CUL.PM1.TG). Iām very curious to see what the performance will be like using the slightly larger LED.
Less throw, 2x more out put, larger hot spot, more usable spill, closer to a Neutral Tint and I run it with a FW3 Aduril driverā¦. running Simonās CUL.PM1.TG emittersā¦
Thanks for your input.
Interesting that you mention half the throw. The Noctigon K1(650kcd W1 vs 600kcd W2) and KR1(110kcd W1 vs 100kcd W2) show nearly the same throw for PM1 and NM1.
Thatās just an assumption on my part, should of saidā¦ āless throwāā¦I donāt waist time measuring throw, my numbers are always less than what others measureā¦
I put a Boost HL in a BLF GTā¦.
I didnāt measure itā¦ I could be off by Half a Million cd one way or the otherā¦so why botherā¦