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You can help make the Convoy database happen

Convoy has been on my radar for as long as I’ve been working on the flashlight database. It wasn’t possible back then to even consider adding them though. Simon simply didn’t publish hard information about his lights. No information published means no information to go into a database. And that meant no database.

Simon has gradually been improving his product descriptions and now almost half of them might mention LED lumens or candela. But they still have a disorganized mess of Aliexpress listings instead of an actual website. They make it hard for anyone to provide accurate specs and even Simon has complained about it:

↑↑↑Pls ignore above parameters,it’s written by the aliexpress system↑↑↑
color of tailcap is black
color of tailcap is black

Additionally people like myself who want to look at everything in a store are quickly locked out of Aliexpress for acting like a bot. It isn’t a good time for anyone.

Periodically I would check up on Convoy to get an idea of how difficult it would be to clean up the mess. In the most extreme case it was 100% impossible because Simon deleted every page from Aliexpress for 1 month. But things have been improving. There are “only” 167 Aliexpress URLs for his flashlights. Many of these are color variations. For example 33 pages are just for different versions of the S2+. Each of those pages might have 8-16 different combinations of LED selection and driver configuration. It is safe to say that Simon probably sells at least 1000 different flashlights. And those are just the official versions. He’ll put together nearly any custom request too. That probably increases it to 5000 different lights.

I guess it would be possible to make a database of only Convoy products. But that would be quite an undertaking and splitting lights across multiple databases doesn’t help people that much. It would be nearly useless anyway since the vast majority of LED options are never tested for lumens/runtime/candela.

What about looking at it from the other direction? What is the fewest number of lights that Convoy makes? In all there are only 34 different models of flashlight. That is a perfectly reasonable number of products. Maybe people will be okay with the lack of specifications. Or that 150 different combinations are packed into 1 database entry. It would bother me but if you guys are okay with it…. maybe something could be done.

However the entire process would still suck. I enjoy organizing information. Not sleuthing it out. I’ve tried typing up a few to see how bad it is. Its pretty bad. But this is where you guys come in. I’m more than willing to slog through miles of crap when someone has a serious interest in seeing it happen. Sign up for the Patreon and tell me you want to see Convoy happen.

Ultimately it will probably be somewhere in between. Certainly not 1000s but probably more than 34 listings. I do have a habit of giving high CRI lights their own entry and would likely extend that courtesy to Convoy’s high CRI offers.

Mostly this will help people be aware of the variety of models and LED options Simon has. There are a lot of lesser known gems buried in the store. It feels like people only ever talk about 3 or 4 models out of the 34 Convoy makes. For example how many people have heard of the BD03? It has integrated charging for normal 18650s. Costs just $25. And has been around since 2015. This should have been a go-to for gifting to non-flashaholics who didn’t want to bother with charging batteries.

What do you think? Anyone interested?

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I think this is very interesting. All products should have a standardized technical sheet like this.

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I’m with you on this. Not a person who always needs spoon-fed information – I quite like researching myself. However, with the Convoy range, I sometimes find it hard to find the diameters of the drivers and led stars of the particular models, with modding in mind. Also as somewhat of a noob, it can be hard to fathom which driver is suitable for each led emitter.

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Convoy at FastTech

They give a wealth of information

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I came across your battery database, i really liked it.
Having a database of products is incredibly awesome.
I wish i could help beyond just saying its an excellent idea.

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I wholeheartedly support this endeavor.

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flightless22 wrote:
“Convoy at FastTech”

They give a wealth of information

Look a little closer. It is exactly the same as the information that Simon puts on Aliexpress. It is nice that it is cleaner and better organized. But still lacking. There are no OTF lumens or runtimes or candela for the Convoy lights.

I do appreciate that Fasttech keeps the old pages up forever. (That BD01 is nowhere on Convoy’s store.) And Fasttech will provide the date that it was added to their site. That is annoying to find otherwise. But that date is the only real piece of information they add.

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You forgot the driver type search…

linear is Garbage

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k (mail)

 

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Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

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Dalamar wrote:
You forgot the driver type search…

linear is Garbage

Unfortunately there are very few reviewers who do volts/amps/lumens tests in their reviews. No point in doing a driver search until that is more common.

But I understand you. I used to feel exactly the same way. Here is what changed my mind: try to design a multimode driver on a 17mm disc. It is possible but high powers are pretty hard to do a good job at. It is surprisingly easy to make something that has worse efficiency than a linear driver.


I have learned another thing about Convoy. Simon rarely says if an LED is high CRI or not. (Except for the very recent FC-40.) Warm white high CRI XM-L2 exists. High CRI 219C exist. High CRI SST-20 exist. High CRI LH351D exist. Simon uses these LEDs but doesn’t say.

There are some comments that he’s made here at BLF that suggest 2 of the 4 LH351D bins he’s using are high CRI? But he doesn’t actually name the bins at Aliexpress so how can anyone know.

After the Jetbeam RRT01 219C fiasco I won’t give companies the benefit of the doubt for using a traditionally high CRI LED.

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I think getting Convoy on the list will be fanrastic. Even the most basic information will be helpful. ✅